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Posted: 7 years ago
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@Aahana I agree to you on resemblance. That's why I am also looking at. If by any chance they show India had anything to do with Peshawar attack I am off. Because I had seen enough of so called secular media which like to glorify so many things which I dont want to mention.
Change that is what I want to see. What changed Sid to Sadiq, will they show that part. What can change Afreen to India. I am looking keenly at the script. hypocrisy dont escape my eyes. If it comes that way, I will be the first to put criticism also.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Aahana-



@Rollingstones I am actually confused about the people dying in the hospital. Did they or did they not? Because the top cop said there were no civilian casualties in the hospital or were those early reports and they still need to learn about the deaths? Because its highly unlikely anyone near to that door which exploded would not suffer fatal injuries. Hoping there will be some clarity on this very soon.



Well in the Episode ...there was a scene where dead bodies were shown near the lift after bomb blast Happened .
About Commisioner's statement of "No Casualties"...it could be early report of his , but one noticeable thing was , he also says to Vikram "Only One round of firing happened and uska sab shant" .
where as in Defense Hospital , It was Bomb blast and then firing .

so , I am confused if there are 2 attacks being carried out πŸ˜• .
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Aahana I agree to you on resemblance. That's why I am also looking at. If by any chance they show India had anything to do with Peshawar attack I am off. Because I had seen enough of so called secular media which like to glorify so many things which I dont want to mention.

Change that is what I want to see. What changed Sid to Sadiq, will they show that part. What can change Afreen to India. I am looking keenly at the script. hypocrisy dont escape my eyes. If it comes that way, I will be the first to put criticism also.


All I am hoping for is that they don't show some misplaced peace message which resembles our Indian media's darling 20 year old student style. I am all for peace between the two nations but not at the cost of being blind to facts and the reality on the ground. There is no way Sid/Sadiq is escaping this mess so whatever is shown, I hope it will be satisfactory and fills the loopholes. My current sympathies are with Shobha. Whatever the outcome, the woman will be scarred for life.

P.S Wonder If our media will give me and my point of view the same kind of importance and coverage as I also happen to be a 20 year old just with a different view from that of Gurmehar's πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜›


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: RollingStones



Well in the Episode ...there was a scene where dead bodies were shown near the lift after bomb blast Happened .
About Commisioner's statement of "No Casualties"...it could be early report of his , but one noticeable thing was , he also says to Vikram "Only One round of firing happened and uska sab shant" .
where as in Defense Hospital , It was Bomb blast and then firing .

so , I am confused if there are 2 attacks being carried out πŸ˜• .


Was he talking about the hospital or thadani corp when he said only one round of firing happened? Its all very confusing right now. We still don't even know for sure if its Sadiq who carried out the hospital attack (I think he has). Hopefully wont be stretched too much because too much suspense is making my head spin.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Aahana-


All I am hoping for is that they don't show some misplaced peace message which resembles our Indian media's darling 20 year old student style. I am all for peace between the two nations but not at the cost of being blind to facts and the reality on the ground. There is no way Sid/Sadiq is escaping this mess so whatever is shown, I hope it will be satisfactory and fills the loopholes. My current sympathies are with Shobha. Whatever the outcome, the woman will be scarred for life.

P.S Wonder If our media will give me and my point of view the same kind of importance and coverage as I also happen to be a 20 year old just with a different view from that of Gurmehar's πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜›


πŸ˜†πŸ˜† Your point of view is just too logical for the media to understand. You won't be getting any importance.😭😭
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Posted: 7 years ago
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In Thadani corp employees came out right. I dont think anyone died there. In hospital there are injured people. Commandos have died.
@Aahana read Nikhil Advani's screenplays especially D-Day. It gives me hope that Nikhil wont mess it up. He has taken similar funda before. See there are many things that makes me keep the card open.

- The coin. Sid says Jai has to die. in the movie Sholay that coin of Jai is important. Both sides have same thing.

- He says India is the only country where a hindu, muslim and sikh sit together and eat. That is why Pakistani's hate us

- His name Siddhant means established truth. That name is not just like that. It has a meaning so he needs to establish the truth

- His dialogue to Afreen this place is hell for kids

- His breaking the mirror as if he doesnt like his own reflection

- His stoping beating a man when Afreen calls him Siddant

- His emotions when he knows Afreen is pregnant

- His salute to Tricolor

Most important if he unleashes the terror it is not Shobha who fails, it will be the biggest failure of Vikram and also Iman and Sartaj. Because Vikram had trusted Sid so much to risk everything to bring him across the border. Sartaj trusted his friend to give him coded message so that he escapes Yusuf. Iman send his wife for him because again he trusted Sid.
So if anyone innocent dies it is the failure of these 3 guys also in reading Sid. Vik will be proven right that 17 years of torture can change an Indian soldier and he turn against his mother land unleashing terror on innocents.

If Siddant doest exist collectively India fails. Our trust on our soldiers fail. A constructive mentor like Vikram loses out to a destructive mentor like Lala.

Principles of a nurture that a sister like Shobha shows fails in front of the principles of hatred a woman like Afreen has sown with her love.

Sadiq cannot win, Sid has to win. How is the biggest question. How will the conscience be restored is the question? This is where the script matters.

Now coming to your view. Your view will be given limelight only if meets the criteria of peace paragonsπŸ˜‰. Age doesnt matter. πŸ˜‰. As youth is defined by Gurmehar Kaur for certain people. Everything else is trolls. Only peace paragons has freedom of expression. If someone uses their freedom of expression and questions them then it becomes strangulating freedom of expressionπŸ˜†πŸ˜†

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Posted: 7 years ago
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@Writer and Shruthi - Damn! Guess I will never be allowed entry into the top elite media houses of our country for I don't sympathize with Afzal and refuse to have a crush on Kanhaiya and Umar 😭
Hum log toh outcasts hai inke liye πŸ˜†

That's what Shruthi. Everything that you have mentioned about Sid is what makes it difficult to digest he has turned against his country. I don't think we would have been reacting like this had there been someone like Sartaj in his place but this is Sid we are talking about. Within two episodes we fell for him and his love for his sister and the country. I can't even describe how I felt when I saw his playful side in the flashbacks. Just so so so good. So even though I don't think I may be able to forgive him if there are deaths involved in all this, I am always hopeful when it comes to Sid because I just dont want him to be Sadiq. Just no!

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

In Thadani corp employees came out right. I dont think anyone died there. In hospital there are injured people. Commandos have died.

@Aahana read Nikhil Advani's screenplays especially D-Day. It gives me hope that Nikhil wont mess it up. He has taken similar funda before. See there are many things that makes me keep the card open.

- The coin. Sid says Jai has to die. in the movie Sholay that coin of Jai is important. Both sides have same thing.

- He says India is the only country where a hindu, muslim and sikh sit together and eat. That is why Pakistani's hate us

- His name Siddhant means established truth. That name is not just like that. It has a meaning so he needs to establish the truth

- His dialogue to Afreen this place is hell for kids

- His breaking the mirror as if he doesnt like his own reflection

- His stoping beating a man when Afreen calls him Siddant

- His emotions when he knows Afreen is pregnant

- His salute to Tricolor

Most important if he unleashes the terror it is not Shobha who fails, it will be the biggest failure of Vikram and also Iman and Sartaj. Because Vikram had trusted Sid so much to risk everything to bring him across the border. Sartaj trusted his friend to give him coded message so that he escapes Yusuf. Iman send his wife for him because again he trusted Sid.
So if anyone innocent dies it is the failure of these 3 guys also in reading Sid. Vik will be proven right that 17 years of torture can change an Indian soldier and he turn against his mother land unleashing terror on innocents.

If Siddant doest exist collectively India fails. Our trust on our soldiers fail. A constructive mentor like Vikram loses out to a destructive mentor like Lala.

Principles of a nurture that a sister like Shobha shows fails in front of the principles of hatred a woman like Afreen has sown with her love.

Sadiq cannot win, Sid has to win. How is the biggest question. How will the conscience be restored is the question? This is where the script matters.

Now coming to your view. Your view will be given limelight only if meets the criteria of peace paragonsπŸ˜‰. Age doesnt matter. πŸ˜‰. As youth is defined by Gurmehar Kaur for certain people. Everything else is trolls. Only peace paragons has freedom of expression. If someone uses their freedom of expression and questions them then it becomes strangulating freedom of expressionπŸ˜†πŸ˜†


Bang on post...AGREE...even i have mentioned the same points in one of my posts

He turned when he was called "SIDDHANT" by Afreen..I don't know why but this is a very poignant moment and wasn't shown for the sake of it m sure,

His salute to the National flag

His tears when he saw Shobha after 17 years

His dialogue that this place is hell for kids

Him telling Yusuf to rather shoot him than shooting an innocent man

Why were these things even shown if he was brainwashed Jehadi...Will a Jehadi behave like this?

When I think about these things then my heart says that still there is more than meets the eye
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Yes even when he was Sadiq, I didnt see in him what I saw in Lala or Yusuf. That cruelty.
@Aahana everyone has fell in love with SidπŸ˜† and no one can allow Sadiq to win πŸ˜†πŸ˜†. I am fine with deaths as long as women and kids are not involved. But Sadiq cannot win. He will be trustworthy not for the people who are destroying for their selfish motives, but for the ones who truly loves him, which is what Sid stands for. Service before self. How can you trust a selfish man in the first place. All jaiesh like terrorists are that. Selfish, others before self. I hope CVs push the envelope and dont give me khichdi. πŸ˜†πŸ˜†. I have no interest in lollypops and so called glossed over peace message. I dont believe in them.

I was telling in other forum. Dont come with sob stories. I am not interested in hearing sob stories. I just dont watch TV shows because of sob stories πŸ˜†πŸ˜†


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Aahana-

Beautiful post. Hoping with all my heart for a miracle.

But I don't think soldiers dying is a good thing even if there are casualties on the other side because there's a difference between the other side and the side the soldiers belong to. Sid let Jaish terrorists get killed but those were terrorists who oNly wanted destruction. Soldiers are protectors and they get martyred - they have someone like a Naz, Shaira, Salim, Vikram and Shobha waiting for them. The Jaish terrorists also have loved ones but I have zero sympathy for people who support and encourage destruction of a fellow country. And this is why i feel these two sections should not be hyphenated or clubbed together because it draws a false equivalence betweem protectors and destroyers. This is where Gurmeher Kaur erred. She equated India with Pakistan and asked 'both' the countries to stop pretending and stop killing each other and that the war killed her father and not Pakistan. But her father died on the Indian soil, he didn't invade a country, he only was protecting his country from people who wanted to snatch it away from him and Pakistan killed him for that and so many like Gurmeher had to grow up without a father. Hence, I feel soldiers dying is not a good thing even if Sid/Sadiq tries to make it look like it was all for a greater good. If he kills his own soldiers, his buddies as the armed forces like to call their fellow soldiers - I would not be able to forgive him.


Tru i dont support soldiers dying too. i mean how can siddhant be so casual with his own colleagues life . And on top of it he is the one who has created this. Its not a situation where army has to risk life to save the country or its people after being atacked.

Also i dont get why he had to have the hospital hostage drama. just capturing govind & thadani wud have been enough.
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