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viji2111

@viji2111

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Posted: 7 years ago

#41

Originally posted by: zenjoe

Count me in! Contrary to popular mood of the forum, I felt sick in my stomach seeing that scene which is so unlike the emotional fool in me. 😕

But the best thing is this forum is really very friendly nobody will bash us for the same.😉

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Posted: 7 years ago

#42

Originally posted by: viji2111

But the best thing is this forum is really very friendly nobody will bash us for the same.😉

I agree with both of you..

I don't hate them but it is very difficult for me to sympathise with them when they both are involved in something so dangerous.

And another point about Ibrahim. Everyone is like this man is so nice, he is so humane. He is a jaish militant, he might not have killed directly but has been involved in so many deaths. Just like it's not possible to sympathise with lala, same is ibrahim for me. We all care about our family members. He thought sid is on his side so he cared for him. And afreen, he thinks of her as his sister. So I don't find him doing anything so extraordinary.

Afreen is different, ok. She couldn't have done anything in the situation she was born but then maybe ibrahim couldn't do anything as well. He was also born in that environment. The hate is so deep rooted. Just like hussain, all he could hear from elders was revenge, hate, bullets etc. there is no normal childhood amidst of hose bullets.

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viji2111

@viji2111

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Posted: 7 years ago

#43

and not for once had she asked Sid that what is his maqsad?

She know about mission badshah but she has not tried to stop him even after seeing so much blood around her. I know she didn't get time for it. But one thing is clear she won't mind if Sid carries out the plan.

I may be proved wrong about her ..still waiting for the future episodes. Maybe she gets a change of heart and stops him from further blood shed.

Edited by viji2111 - 7 years ago

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Sindhu

@Sindhu_18

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Posted: 7 years ago

#44

Originally posted by: writer--

I agree with both of you..
I don't hate them but it is very difficult for me to sympathise with them when they both are involved in something so dangerous.
And another point about Ibrahim. Everyone is like this man is so nice, he is so humane. He is a jaish militant, he might not have killed directly but has been involved in so many deaths. Just like it's not possible to sympathise with lala, same is ibrahim for me. We all care about our family members. He thought sid is on his side so he cared for him. And afreen, he thinks of her as his sister. So I don't find him doing anything so extraordinary.
Afreen is different, ok. She couldn't have done anything in the situation she was born but then maybe ibrahim couldn't do anything as well. He was also born in that environment. The hate is so deep rooted. Just like hussain, all he could hear from elders was revenge, hate, bullets etc. there is no normal childhood amidst of hose bullets.

I respect each of your views and I too do feel similar emotions of patriotism. Like, how can Sid betray his nation and be a blind man in the love of Afreen.

We must agree that Sid has changed and has become a very indifferent man. I don't see anything good in him, other than the only fact that he is emotionally invested in Afreen and that he loves her.

I don't want him to be Sadiq, because Shobha has really gone through a lot. So much trauma and so much mental instability. Naaz had ammi, Salim and the kids. Harleen had bebe, bauji, satpal and veera. This woman, had no family to fall back on. Vikram was still not family to her, he was a person of utmost importance to her, but not family. She lost her father too in those seventeen years. Coz in the flashback, there is mention of their father, and even in the jail scenes, Sid talks about his father who is not dead. So in those seventeen years, Shobha has also lost her father. This woman has gone through a lot. And that's why, if Sid really turns out to be Sadiq, then there will be no value to Shobha's pain of so many years. It would be an insult to her waiting, longing and separation.

Considering that Sid is not able to see all what his sister has had to go through, we come to the conclusion that Sid has become indifferent. But... Even in this indifference, he cares deeply about someone. He loves Afreen truly. When we think he is a man of no heart, he shows his vulnerability, he shows he too loves someone, he shows there is still some good left in him. So it is this good in him, that makes me root for Afreen and Sid. He isn't truthful to anyone, but he is at least truthful to someone.. ?

Aah but again we can debate on his truthfulness. He may not be truthful to either side. But he is genuinely at least invested in one side. There is some faith, trust and belief between Afreen and Sid. That is something that I root for. Which does not.mean, I am not against his motives. I am against it.. but I am happy for his only part of life, where he is himself.

I hope this wasn't confusing 😆

I meant, I root for the good side in him. Even if it is 10% of him.

And same goes for Ibrahim. Everyone is made of negatives and positives. But people are mostly judged by their negatives. Even after seeing so much ruthlessness around him, Ibrahim has managed to keep in him some humanity. When Afreem's own mother could not keep her daughter safe, he did.

Do you think, it was in Yusuf to care for anybody ? Yusuf was completely brainwashed and a 100% jaish militant. While Ibrahim, even after such hideous surroundings grew to be a man with a heart.

It is this good in him, that makes me like him.

If you look at it neutrally, without taking any side, you will realize what I am trying to say. For that side of the coin, he is surely a saviour and loyal soul.

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Posted: 7 years ago

#45

+1 to all what Sindhu said .

It's the Humanity in Siddhant and Ibrahim that makes my connect to them and side with them .

Siddhant is still not been shown what his motive is ,it could be pro India also ...but even if he is anti India I'll hate him for that but then I'll still connect with him somewhere ,because he did had a human side alive in it in all this .

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Sindhu

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Posted: 7 years ago

#46

Originally posted by: RollingStones
+1 to all what Sindhu said .

It's the Humanity in Siddhant and Ibrahim that makes my connect to them and side with them .

Siddhant is still not been shown what his motive is ,it could be pro India also ...but even if he is anti India I'll hate him for that but then I'll still connect with him somewhere ,because he did had a human side alive in it in all this .

Yes. Rightfully. I will hate him if he turns out to be a traitor. But I will be able to feel for him a little because of his humanity.

That humanity wasn't in him for Shobha and Rohan, but it was at least there for Afreen and Ibrahim right ?

He could turn out to be harmful. I would surely hate him, because I am on this side of the coin. But if I try to see it from that side of the coin, I would sympathize a little. Which clearly does not mean I side with him. I will feel for him and the good he had in him, which I wish would have changed him back to good.

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sp108

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Posted: 7 years ago

#47

The more I watch of Sid, his revenge or maksad seems to be only avenging Hussain's death. I feel he doesn't hate his country, nor does he have any love for Jaish. He loved as a human, he felt as a human and now it is these bonds of the heart which give him his maksad. Somehow #BullsEyeSid keeps coming back to me. He knows who is the target. He will aim perfectly and take no collaterals. But in the process, he will lose many relationships. And just as his love for Afreen is genuine, so is his love for Shobha. He can spell it out to Afreen that his maksad is greater than their saath. He can't say the same to Shobha but you can definitely feel it in his eyes when he talks to Shobha.

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megha sharma

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Posted: 7 years ago

#48

In the start of the show , iman was able to make out that Vikram had someone following him so according to that iman should be able to pick out sid's men who are following him . Sid loves Afreen too much but I don't understand how can he become so indifferent to Shobha' s pain . I know he loves her & in all his interactions with her we see sid & not Sadiq but he is equally committed to his mission also which he is not abe to let go as he feels he would avenge Hussain & get justice for him if he kills govindmehta .i was hoping that may be in future Afreen will ask him to drop it as right now everything is going as per his plan . He had efffortlessley gotten close to thadani & I just hope Sartaj & iman would inform vikram about their doubts coz as he too was an it taken back to see sid there in NSA . Ibrahim might be a terrorist but he is not a bad guy . He too could have behaved in same manner as other militants with Afreen but he didn't as he is too loyal to sid . I think given a chance he might wanna choose another path instead of being a terrorist . I also feels sid doesn't wanna bond with Rohan as he feels that would deter him from his mission because of the attachment . Afreen sid scene was full of emotions & love . Both missing each other . I am just wondering if sid has another ace up his sleeve . What if his real plan is to bring Afreen & ibrahim to India along with other Jaish militants so that India could catch those other terrorists. The entire surgical strikes part , news coverage & pak reaction was almost a replica of what had happened in reality also.

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Rafangirl

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Posted: 7 years ago

#49

Originally posted by: viji2111
i think I am the only one who doesn't feel anything about Sid and Afreen. I don't know why but I don't sympathise with them. afreen lost everyone and everything she could call her own still don't feel bad for her.
whenever they show Sid thinking about her it reminds me of Shobha's hallucinations.

whenever he remembers Hussain I think of Salim's death.

i don't know why but I am unable to relate with their love story.

lol..😆...I could relate with u, I mean until last week, I was miserable watching Sidfreen separation. But when we knew they are still together, I didn't get the HAPPY wala feel since our SIDDHANT is no more SID, he is out n out SADIQ...

I don't hv an extreme detachment to them as for now, m still moved n get drooled at those lovebirds..but if his motives are against our nation, I will fail to see any love, affection and care between them..

Edited by memad - 7 years ago

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Flame.

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Posted: 7 years ago

#50

Originally posted by: writer--

I agree with both of you..
I don't hate them but it is very difficult for me to sympathise with them when they both are involved in something so dangerous.
And another point about Ibrahim. Everyone is like this man is so nice, he is so humane. He is a jaish militant, he might not have killed directly but has been involved in so many deaths. Just like it's not possible to sympathise with lala, same is ibrahim for me. We all care about our family members. He thought sid is on his side so he cared for him. And afreen, he thinks of her as his sister. So I don't find him doing anything so extraordinary.
Afreen is different, ok. She couldn't have done anything in the situation she was born but then maybe ibrahim couldn't do anything as well. He was also born in that environment. The hate is so deep rooted. Just like hussain, all he could hear from elders was revenge, hate, bullets etc. there is no normal childhood amidst of hose bullets.

Ditto!

No doubt there is a lot of sadness around Afreen's life and the circumstances she is in and has been in the past but I just can't overlook the fact that she supports the destruction of a country and felt betrayed when Sid left her(Anyone would in her shoes). I wanted her to have a small moment of realization of how her father has been betraying and manipulating people and now how it feels to have a taste of the same medicine. The trick that lala played against Imaan-Sartaj-Sidhanth was terrible and not once did we see her feeling bad about it. Same when it comes to Ibrahim. He's a terrorist and as we are seeing in the world today, they are fiercely loyal when it comes to their diabolical motives. They don't really about their own life as long as the goal is met - as Vikram said, they have something in them and we dont have - a desire to die and go to heaven. All that Ibrahim is doing right now is what a lot of the terrorists do world over and I just don't feel anything for him or Afreen-Sadiq love story (As of now)

Just my personal opinion 😳

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