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Posted: 7 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Now I know what are they trying to show. How will Afreen be able to accept Siddhant. And what is the difference between India and Pak or an Indian soldier or a Jaish soldier.

I had told earlier also it is about relations. Family is given the utmost importance in our country. So does Karma or rather actions. The land of Bhagavad Gita celebrates Karma one way or the other. Whatever religion you belong to, this land or rather India's culture connects you with family, with relations, with love and with actions. And most importantly intend of action.

Family is our strength as well as weakness. If Imaan came back from being a traitor it was because of family. If Sartaj decided to confess it is again because of family.

Today we see 2 mothers. One seeing her daughter trying to kill a man who killed her love. The other knowing that her daughter is carrying a life inside her.

Nazneen shows the nurturing power of a lady when she asks Shaira to put down the gun. But most importantly her nurture shines through the boy she has bought up. Ayan. I loved the way the younger brother stopped his sister from doing the wrong thing. And Nazneen says he can escape you, but not his Karma. Finally the Karma catches up with Avi as he too ends up under a truck. Nazneen was remarkable ensuring her daughter will be in the right path was more important than any personal revenge on the man who killed Salim. I was very happy that they made a Muslim lady talk about Karma and made her choose what is right than revenge. Because that culture is in every Indian irrespective of religion. And it is that foundation which always ground an indian also.

Now go back to Afreen's mother. Afreen trusts her mother when she indicates about the truth. What does the mother do. She breaks her daughter's trust. She gave the information to a murderer telling in Afreen's womb it is the Khafir's child. She forgets the baby has nothing to do with what is happening. Afreen has to realize who is the killer of Hussain. Is it the Indian whom the Jaish has claimed or they themselves.

And I am sure Afreen will learn that. Today her mother told it is Khafir's child and obviously they will try to kill it. Tomorrow when Shobha knows the truth she might hate Sadiq, she might punish Sadiq too, but the child in Afreen's womb she will call it her brother's child. While Afreen's mother couldnt see the child as her daughter's baby too, Shobha will see Afreen as her brother's wife carrying his baby. She will become the mother to Afreen irrespective of what she does with Sadiq and his operation Badshah.

That is the truth Siddhant wanted to establish also. The values of Indian cannot kill hussain. No we fight with people who harm us. But we dont torture them which Nazneen proved today by calling back Shaira, we punish the culprits but their families or innocent children we dont harm. That's the motto of Indian army. That's what Indian army stands for. That is what is the truth.

And I feel Sid counts on Afreen to come to india and he counts on his sister to take the right stand to give proof of the truth he believes in.


Beautifully writtenπŸ‘. Agree with u 😊
I was curious to know what do u think about the whole Sid/Sadiq fiasco since I know that u r good at analyzing symbolism and situations..would love to know your take on it 😊
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Posted: 7 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Now I know what are they trying to show. How will Afreen be able to accept Siddhant. And what is the difference between India and Pak or an Indian soldier or a Jaish soldier.

I had told earlier also it is about relations. Family is given the utmost importance in our country. So does Karma or rather actions. The land of Bhagavad Gita celebrates Karma one way or the other. Whatever religion you belong to, this land or rather India's culture connects you with family, with relations, with love and with actions. And most importantly intend of action.

Family is our strength as well as weakness. If Imaan came back from being a traitor it was because of family. If Sartaj decided to confess it is again because of family.

Today we see 2 mothers. One seeing her daughter trying to kill a man who killed her love. The other knowing that her daughter is carrying a life inside her.

Nazneen shows the nurturing power of a lady when she asks Shaira to put down the gun. But most importantly her nurture shines through the boy she has bought up. Ayan. I loved the way the younger brother stopped his sister from doing the wrong thing. And Nazneen says he can escape you, but not his Karma. Finally the Karma catches up with Avi as he too ends up under a truck. Nazneen was remarkable ensuring her daughter will be in the right path was more important than any personal revenge on the man who killed Salim. I was very happy that they made a Muslim lady talk about Karma and made her choose what is right than revenge. Because that culture is in every Indian irrespective of religion. And it is that foundation which always ground an indian also.

Now go back to Afreen's mother. Afreen trusts her mother when she indicates about the truth. What does the mother do. She breaks her daughter's trust. She gave the information to a murderer telling in Afreen's womb it is the Khafir's child. She forgets the baby has nothing to do with what is happening. Afreen has to realize who is the killer of Hussain. Is it the Indian whom the Jaish has claimed or they themselves.

And I am sure Afreen will learn that. Today her mother told it is Khafir's child and obviously they will try to kill it. Tomorrow when Shobha knows the truth she might hate Sadiq, she might punish Sadiq too, but the child in Afreen's womb she will call it her brother's child. While Afreen's mother couldnt see the child as her daughter's baby too, Shobha will see Afreen as her brother's wife carrying his baby. She will become the mother to Afreen irrespective of what she does with Sadiq and his operation Badshah.

That is the truth Siddhant wanted to establish also. The values of Indian cannot kill hussain. No we fight with people who harm us. But we dont torture them which Nazneen proved today by calling back Shaira, we punish the culprits but their families or innocent children we dont harm. That's the motto of Indian army. That's what Indian army stands for. That is what is the truth.

And I feel Sid counts on Afreen to come to india and he counts on his sister to take the right stand to give proof of the truth he believes in.



Loved ur analysis and agree as well.
Just a small correction. It was Harleen who had spoken about karma not Naazneen.
"Jaane de usse. Wo tujhse to bach sakta hai par apne karmo se nahi."
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Posted: 7 years ago
#23
Sid's power is Shobha, his wealth is Afreen. Currently his wealth and power are on 2 sides. He wants both of them to be in one side. Whole drama or perception or Operation Badshah is for that so that Sobha and Afreen come together.
Once these 2 ladies come together then nothing can stop him from bringing Jaish down. 2 sides of the same coin. That's Sobha and Afreen. He is playing with these ladies as their world revolve around him.

Siddant is a man who knows a woman and what she can do.Not many men know this πŸ˜†πŸ˜†, that's why women is always Narayan's medium of ending Adharma. Because a man who doesnt understand woman stands mute when faced with a woman who has given her all to a relationship and if he delivers on her trust, she will break all limits to give him what he wants.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@anshvi coming to symbolisms I have to give it to CVs on how beautifully they have disguised the Shakthi of the show.
I was always attracted to Shobha from the time she was shown. Clad in those simple bengal cotton sarees her traditional attire, her independence everything showed something deep. Then her hallucinations, her weakness about her brother. It was like she is not what she looks or says. She is something else.

In any war power decides the fate. If you have to win a war you have to know your power or Shakthi. Shakthi is not seen, it is felt. It doesnt intimidate simply to get things done. It will have the most pleasing smile, clarity of thoughts and mostly follows the rules. Or rather Shakthi is with that person with whom you feel secure, assured. Look at Sobha. She carries all these qualities.

And if Rasika Duggal has given a performance of a life time in the climax then we will surely see Shobha as Shakthi incarnate, as Durga against whom all the evil forces will have to bow down.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@anshvi coming to symbolisms. There are 3 boys in the show. Each connected with one POW. One Sid's nephew Rohan, second Sartaj's nephew Arjun, third Iman's son Ayan. All 3 boys have nothing to do with kargil or what happened with Hussain or in general none of them are responsible for this war of nations or religions or ideologies whatever we call it . Are these 3 going to pay the heavy price of the war. Will something happen to them.
Then we have Harleen's unborn child and Afreen's unborn child. Harleen an Indian lady and Afreen a Pakistani lady. Both are would be mothers. Is the child in their womb safe, will it get a better life.

Sid says this place is hell for children. No need to bring a child. Can something be corrected so that atleast the generation not yet born can live a better life. Can we make choices, suffer a bit ourselves for a better tomorrow. I feel show also raises that larger question
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@anshvi coming to symbolisms I have to give it to CVs on how beautifully they have disguised the Shakthi of the show.

I was always attracted to Shobha from the time she was shown. Clad in those simple bengal cotton sarees her traditional attire, her independence everything showed something deep. Then her hallucinations, her weakness about her brother. It was like she is not what she looks or says. She is something else.

In any war power decides the fate. If you have to win a war you have to know your power or Shakthi. Shakthi is not seen, it is felt. It doesnt intimidate simply to get things done. It will have the most pleasing smile, clarity of thoughts and mostly follows the rules. Or rather Shakthi is with that person with whom you feel secure, assured. Look at Sobha. She carries all these qualities.

And if Rasika Duggal has given a performance of a life time in the climax then we will surely see Shobha as Shakthi incarnate, as Durga against whom all the evil forces will have to bow down.


Interesting..So do you think she will play an important role in the climax..What do you think her role will be in the climax.
Do you see a happy ending for all including Sid and Afreen
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@ shrutiravi- i am a big fan of your analysis and find it very meaningful. I have read your lot of posts in siya ke ram and dehleez forums as well. I totally agree with your analysis and positive perspective wrt pow
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@anshvi I am exactly not sure what she will do in the end. But I know she is dividing line between win and loss. I am not sure CVs will go for text book ending. The way they have sketched the characters I dont think it will be happy all kind of ending.
First thing- Siddhant's shradh was done. We do it for the dead people. Then he came back. when you do shradh death is confirmed or it is a closure, so when death is confirmed can someone live on. I feel Sid will die but live through Afreen's child.

Second Naz told khubul hai to Salim before the phone call came that Imaan was alive. So she made a choice, a choice that Iman is dead in that khubul hai. So somewhere I feel he too can die leaving behind Naz and kids which was all that she had 17 years back.

Sartaj, Harleen believes he is alive while everyone else wants her to move on. Remember her father in law , brother in law and sis in law trying to post matrimonial ad for her. So they too have assumed Sartaj died. So I feel he too will die but will live for Harleen through his child.

This is just assumption and need not be true. All 3 have come back from death. So they will destroy something that needs to be destroyed before sacrificing themselves as martyrs is my take.

My only fear is they dont do anything with Rohan, Ayan or Arjun.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@anshvi I am exactly not sure what she will do in the end. But I know she is dividing line between win and loss. I am not sure CVs will go for text book ending. The way they have sketched the characters I dont think it will be happy all kind of ending.

First thing- Siddhant's shradh was done. We do it for the dead people. Then he came back. when you do shradh death is confirmed or it is a closure, so when death is confirmed can someone live on. I feel Sid will die but live through Afreen's child.

Second Naz told khubul hai to Salim before the phone call came that Imaan was alive. So she made a choice, a choice that Iman is dead in that khubul hai. So somewhere I feel he too can die leaving behind Naz and kids which was all that she had 17 years back.

Sartaj, Harleen believes he is alive while everyone else wants her to move on. Remember her father in law , brother in law and sis in law trying to post matrimonial ad for her. So they too have assumed Sartaj died. So I feel he too will die but will live for Harleen through his child.

This is just assumption and need not be true. All 3 have come back from death. So they will destroy something that needs to be destroyed before sacrificing themselves as martyrs is my take.

My only fear is they dont do anything with Rohan, Ayan or Arjun.


Oh dear Lord !

I dont want all three of them to die.. 😭

The Shradh for Siddhant, I can agree with that. Also for Imaan, coz he always feels he shouldn't have come back.

But Sartaj ? No no no no !! Poor thing, he's just began to live his life.. I really dont wish for him to die.. It will be really horrible. For all the faith and belief Harleen has had for the past 17 years, and for all her prayers.. I really dont want Sartaj to die.

And, I dont think anything shall happen to Rohan or Arjun. What I feel is, Ayaan will start from where his father left behind. He is so keen and interested and in aww of the Army. I am sure, if it is Imaan who shall die, then Ayaan will follow his father's footsteps and continue his legacy forward. I mean, he will do justice to what his father has been doing, he will give the respect his father's sacrifice deserves.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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No No No Iman can't die. I am sure in upcoming few episodes he will get his happiness again . He too will start living a Normal life. He deserves happiness. He is man of family. His life is devoted to them
Iman can't die and he wont too.
Sadiq will die giving birth to Sidanth
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