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Posted: 7 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: bajarbattu


Gosh!! so critical you are. 😆 relax its just a number.
n here I was hoping that it would last at least till april. ab march mein hi khatam hoga lagta hai.


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Just stated the correct number...nothing to be critical about...and ya it is getting over on 15th March.
Just curious to know if u have followed Hatufim.
From what I know there were 2 seasons made and the 2nd one was left on a cliffhanger.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: _barbie


@bold - very well written 👍🏼 that explains the weird vibes coming from the couple

when 15 years of torture couldn't break him , lala tried his hands on soft tactics , he ensured that his emotional guard comes off... so he tried to fill his emotional vaccum by providing affection and care. now hussain's death was ofcourse out of calculation , but it worked wonders to tiurn him bitter , hussain's innocence and unconditional affection worked as scab on his emotional wounds and with his death that scab was removed and that wound has still not healed .

having said that. all that still dont explain the reason to be bitter towards india as @rollingstones said

yes a big showdown for sure . but i dont want sister killing brother type of melodrama, that reminds me of tulsi virani lol 😆

and yes if a tragic can be avoided somehow , i am all for it... he is my fav too 😛


@pink - Very well described. His wounds on surface may have healed, but the ones that can't be seen have become even more deeper, since Husseins death.

@blue - What is India? Is it just a land? Isn't India really a representation of its people? And which people? I don't think his bitterness is towards general population, it is towards the people in power, who are responsible for the planned mayhems across borders. Politicians, corporates and the armed forces who are in cahoots with each other for sake of more power and money.

If you see what Operation Badshah is... he is not planning to do a terrorist attack in some local train or a public place... his operation is about striking at the Thadani chap (I am guessing the name is inspired by either Ambani or Adani in present day India) and kidnapping his two grown up sons.

There is a difference. Because its the corporates who pull the strings in political coups, run countries. Politicians just do their bidding.

And so I feel, that RollingSTones, point gets negated.

But I could be wrong too... lets watch more epis and then decide. 😉

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Posted: 7 years ago
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@Battu :

But why only India's Corporates ??

I am just trying to understand why is he plotting against India ??
Is it just out of his Logalty towards Lala
Or he is actually against India
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: bajarbattu

Since my post is relevant here too... Just copy pasting from the other thread. Sorry to disappoint all Siddhant fans, but my prediction is that he is not going to be the patriotic one. My two cents follow:


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I watched again...

And the foreshadowing with Afreen's character calling him Sadiq/Siddhant suggests that Siddhant is not Siddhant but Sadiq.

Go back to yesterday's episode. Check the fight between Sadiq and Yusuf. When Sadiq has an upper hand over Yusuf and is tightening the noose around Yusuf's neck... they showed Sadiq having flashes of him being beaten to death by Sartaj. He only saw that. And he felt an anger, that he fed into his fight with Yusuf. Hence Afreen shouting Sadiq did not help because it just fuelled his anger more.

But Afreen has understood that the only way she can appeal to the human in him is when she calls him Siddhant (who is lost somewhere deep inside this new Sadiq), and its only then that his flashes change and he sees himself as not the person who was tortured but the soldier he was originally. the editing is so beautiful that his life as Siddhant a person is a mere hit and miss glimpse. So his family... does not appear much in his thoughts, its only him as a soldier.

I really am convinced that Sadiq is really Sadiq, and he is working on Operation Badshah in all honesty. That is why he was smiling yesterday when he gave lala the two options of Lahore and Karachi, he knew it there and then, that Lala will pick Karachi, as both of them were watching the Nazneen Khan drama unfolding behind them on the TV. He is counting on the Indian army to send a message through Nazneen, he will take their help and come to India as Siddhant, but will become Sadiq once he is here and unleash havoc when he gets here.

The above, comes from what I read of Gazal Thakur (the one who plays Shaira) on instagram, where she was praising Rasika Duggal (the one who plays the role of Siddhant's Sister) for giving a performance of a lifetime. I am sure, that as Siddhant's sister she can give a performance of a lifetime only when she has to choose between two unchoosable options. When she would have to reject the only person she has ever loved like a mad woman (her brother - so much so that she never forgave Vikram Singh, and never married him, for failing Siddhant) and do the right thing - save him by killing him/or something equally drastic. Its somewhat like what Wolverine did in Xmen III to Jean. Killed the bad part of Jean to deliver the good part of Jean to death and let her rest in peace. Perhaps Shobha will finally make the choice of killing Sadiq, so she can allow Siddhant to live in her memories, eternally.

If this story goes the typical Indian soldier - patriotic till he dies - it won't be dramatic enough. He has to turn.

Hence I feel Sadiq is going to be Sadiq, and not a closet Siddhant.

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Totally agree with you!
Siddhant is Sadiq. He will double cross the Indian army, just wait and watch.
Siddhant being Siddhant is so obvious! Plus Lala never doubts him, thats not possible. Lala was ISI chief, not some stupid 2 year old kid who would never even raise an eyebrow on Sadiq's doings (read his khuli hawa mein walks etc.). Even Afreen has had her moments of doubt but not Lala. This is because he is part of the plan.
Sadiq will go to India as Siddhant and start operation badshah from there. He will obviously stay with Shobha and she will be the one who'll first find out about his true intentions.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@Veronica and @Bajarbattu
Highly possible what u r saying and operation Badshah will take place
But even if this is true then also I feel in the end Sid will have a change of heart and will favour in India what may come.

What confuses me is why all this drama...why he wants army to find him...why is he clashing with Yusuf...why going through all this trouble for Vikram and Co to track him and bring him back to India
Y not simply enter India like Sartaj and Imaan did and tell very one that he was alive and then was tortured and finally managed to escape just like Imaan and Sartaj did.

If Imaan and Sartaj were accepted then I am sure no one would have doubted him as well and then he could have easily carried out his mission.

Right now if Vikram and Co finds out that he is the new leader of Jaish and married to Afreen they will rather doubt him now

So, it doesn't make sense to me..and still the reasons of his turning also doesn't make sense

Whatever the case may be I have a gut feeling that he will end up in India's side in the end.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: anshvi

@Veronica and @Bajarbattu

Highly possible what u r saying and operation Badshah will take place
But even if this is true then also I feel in the end Sid will have a change of heart and will favour in India what may come.

What confuses me is why all this drama...why he wants army to find him...why is he clashing with Yusuf...why going through all this trouble for Vikram and Co to track him and bring him back to India
Y not simply enter India like Sartaj and Imaan did and tell very one that he was alive and then was tortured and finally managed to escape just like Imaan and Sartaj did.

If Imaan and Sartaj were accepted then I am sure no one would have doubted him as well and then he could have easily carried out his mission.

Right now if Vikram and Co finds out that he is the new leader of Jaish and married to Afreen they will rather doubt him now

So, it doesn't make sense to me..and still the reasons of his turning also doesn't make sense

Whatever the case may be I have a gut feeling that he will end up in India's side in the end.



See, I think the whole plan to send Sadiq to India was formed between Lala and Sadiq after the declaration of operation Badshah. He cannot go like Iman, Sartaj coz that would put him right on intelligence's suspicion radar. POWs can't just keep on popping from the LOC at all times. When Iman, Sartaj came, it took the whole country by shock coz it was a unique case of POWs returning this way. They cannot afford to repeat the same technique to send Sadiq to India. Indian intelligence will monitor him 24* 7 just like they did with Sartaj, Iman. Plus Sartaj, Iman did almost blow up the Defence Minister+ chinese delegation. So, every1 will be extra strict with Sadiq.

However, if he plays a victim, that gives him the upper hand in the whole situation. Nobody will suspect him.

I also think he will come around in the end. He will sacrifice himself for the country. But right now, he is Sadiq. That's what my little brain thinks about the whole situation. 😊
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Is there any chance of triple crossing Lala btw??... 😆 Like Sid telling one plan to the council another plan to Lala and finally there can be a third final plan that he will execute...😆 So far Lala has been as cunning as a fox... For once I want to see someone smarter and stronger than Lala .. Remember when Sartaj said that " Vishwaasghaat" is his strategy.. I so want that Vishwaasghaat to happen to him and by someone whom he considers as his own...
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Okay ... i just went and watched the last two episodes of Season 2 of Hatufim. 😆 Sorry but I just could not hold my horses... and so now I know where this serial is heading for sure.

Though what i like about our Star Plus Serial, is that the rogue POW is not shown as an emotional fool for Afreen. So yes Sadiq is Sadiq right now and not Siddhant, but its all a very complicated story which I will not reveal. And Lala trusts him implicitly... because Siddhant is a man of his words. He is not the say one thing and do something other, like Yusuf.

Lala also trusts him, because of one very dhansoo reason... which I won't give away, as it will spoil the whole story for you. But when I saw it... I was literally drop jawed. Never thought of it from that angle.

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So as per hatufim... the rogue POW is in love with his wife, so I guess Sadiq also loves Afreen. Glad I was wrong, but they've given another dhansoo reasoning for him not wanting to have a child.

So Anshvi, if you are reading this, then this is for you... you are going to get your happy ending.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: bajarbattu

Okay ... i just went and watched the last two episodes of Season 2 of Hatufim. 😆 Sorry but I just could not hold my horses... and so now I know where this serial is heading for sure.

Though what i like about our Star Plus Serial, is that the rogue POW is not shown as an emotional fool for Afreen. So yes Sadiq is Sadiq right now and not Siddhant, but its all a very complicated story which I will not reveal. And Lala trusts him implicitly... because Siddhant is a man of his words. He is not the say one thing and do something other, like Yusuf.

Lala also trusts him, because of one very dhansoo reason... which I won't give away, as it will spoil the whole story for you. But when I saw it... I was literally drop jawed. Never thought of it from that angle.

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So as per hatufim... the rogue POW is in love with his wife, so I guess Sadiq also loves Afreen. Glad I was wrong, but they've given another dhansoo reasoning for him not wanting to have a child.

So Anshvi, if you are reading this, then this is for you... you are going to get your happy ending.

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Oh that would be great...Let's hope for the best...u know I have been dying to watch hatufim so that I can know what is gonna happen but I am not watching it coz I know the suspense might get revealed so m keeping my curiosity in check..Though m not sure how long I will be able to keep myself from watching it 😆
Fingers crossed for a happy ending 😊
Edited by anshvi - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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So many Interesting theories and discussions .
Have to say Siddhant Sadiq has real turned this show fabulously .
And the actor Anurag Sinha is just doing Mindblowing job with the character .
I have to say Imaan was my most fav but looking at Siddhant character as well as actor my fav had changed now .
Don't know I should call him Lead or Supportive Character in the show .
Whatever it is ,currently he is representing POW to me now .
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