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Posted: 7 years ago
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Salim was really good person and at last moments he was trying to support his brother and thinking about others. He left place which no one can fill in everybody's life.
I will miss Salim. Suhaas did fabulous job.


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Posted: 7 years ago
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@its-alexandrite Oh I missed the hug then! :D

@Swetha
Yes, its quite possible that Imaan will feel guilty for Salim's death [:O]

@themachine
Yes, but I really dont understand why they had to twist the story so much regarding personal relations. Naaz has literally been a pendulum. I'd still prefer she remain alone now. At least that would bring in some consistency. It's not like her and Imaan are cross with each other like other couples. So the kids can still have their Abbu, while Naaz can choose to stay independently. (I still don't get why Imaan had to lie and portray himself as the bad guy)

Now that you talk about the car scene. Yes you do have a point there, 😃 The broken shards not doing anything to Harleen did cross my mind also. But guess it's all creative liberty.

However I would still appreciate if they explain happenings of 3rd december again. You have any idea?
Lala's ideas are just too weird for me to decipher. Also it is quite possible that Abhi overheard the conversation, or Lala came to know of Imaan's betrayal via his super 6th sense, and so he planned a revenge. Let's see how he tries to contact Imaan again.

@Chit15
Yes, Salim was a selfless character. He will be missed.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: coldy07


@themachine
Yes, but I really dont understand why they had to twist the story so much regarding personal relations. Naaz has literally been a pendulum. I'd still prefer she remain alone now. At least that would bring in some consistency. It's not like her and Imaan are cross with each other like other couples. So the kids can still have their Abbu, while Naaz can choose to stay independently. (I still don't get why Imaan had to lie and portray himself as the bad guy)

Now that you talk about the car scene. Yes you do have a point there, 😃 The broken shards not doing anything to Harleen did cross my mind also. But guess it's all creative liberty.

However I would still appreciate if they explain happenings of 3rd december again. You have any idea?
Lala's ideas are just too weird for me to decipher. Also it is quite possible that Abhi overheard the conversation, or Lala came to know of Imaan's betrayal via his super 6th sense, and so he planned a revenge. Let's see how he tries to contact Imaan again.



Oh, I absolutely agree with you; I don't understand why Naz's journey to this point was so crazy, or why Imaan did what he did... I ranted about that a few posts ago haha. I want Naz to be alone as well. There's just so much turmoil. I have a feeling they'll have her on her own a bit, then start bridging the gap between Naz and Imaan eventually. But oh my god, I am not looking to the fallout when Naz finds out that Salim's death was "Imaan's fault." Man oh man, I am ducking and covering for that one. Naz can be pretty scary.

Lala, lol... He truly is the all-knowing haha. I'm a little puzzled too... But I'm assuming that the suitcase wasn't discovered because maybe the guards hadn't gotten to the trunk by the time Duggal came, and when he told them to take the car in, they didn't bother to finish checking it. Seems to me Imaan was just used as a means to get the bomb onto the premises. Maybe he was to leave the car there for the next two days, then whoever Lala has on the inside at the NSA would do what was needed to kill the minister. And the NSA/parking structure (both don't have cameras? or just the parking area?) may not have CCTV, but Lala knows EVERYTHING else, apparently. The guy calls Imaan every two seconds, right after each tiny step is done, which is impossible! But anyway, if that is the case, he should have known what Imaan was doing immediately, and perhaps he just chose to carry out his threat because Imaan tried his patience. We'll have to wait and see, like you said. Imaan was kept safe because he hasn't outlived his usefulness yet.

And what was that about Vikram seeing a report from the NSA and conveniently noticing Imaan in some video footage? Is that what happened? That's just dumb, on so many levels. Also, lol @top agent Kirti, who can't even choose a proper spot to scout out the hospital. #fail When is she leaving? There is literally no purpose for her. I haven't seen her do a single thing of merit, not her sleazy seduction of Sartaj, and not her real job of gathering "information." I understand that the great big secret can't be revealed just yet, but the way they're avoiding the topic makes it feel like the plot is dragging.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Post Salim's death ... I am just wondering what purpose his character served to the story ...??[:S]...

Such sloppy piece of writing .. Faltu mein complicating things .
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: RollingStones

Post Salim's death ... I am just wondering what purpose his character served to the story ...??[:S]...

Such sloppy piece of writing .. Faltu mein complicating things .


Yeah. I assume they had Salim to show how life didn't stay the same for Naz after 17 years. Without him, Harleen and Naz would have the same story, essentially. Another way of showing that people aren't perfect, and a different moral conflict, I guess. But yeah, I get what you're saying. All this Shaira nonsense and Naz was feeling so bad for so long... When she finally made her choice, it didn't matter anymore. Tragic.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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{To the "OP"}

Hello! As you might've noticed my posts lately, I'm more than willing to have input on this. And was even looking to create a thread and post, but due to those numerous reasons and my always-failing-yet-still'-intact' self-imposed policy of responding serially [of each and every significant posts in threads I 'crafted' responses for in my mind*], I couldn't! Yes, I failed not once, twice but multiple times ("a zillion times" 😉) in reaching even 1/4th of my total individual-/single-aims. But Thankfully enough, due to an entirely-extraordinary character's (lately) [perceived] death, the show's biggest-possible 'development' hopefully/per se(Latin), I have got pretty-strong (understatement) reason for [my] 'escapism'...! 😳
But the catch here is that your heading/'Subject Folder'/title for this seems not adequate-enough, it's a notably-understatement! Now, before you 'lose your cool' (😆), let me clarify that while I understand that it might be out of respect to the narrative (storyline) by you (the very-same feeling I shared unmixed till quarter-past-1 month of the series' beginning i.e. early mid-December) or maybe you just got 'spiritual' by just watching that episode (😉), but I disagree with it, and definitely not of a sole-reason of my bias towards Salim ("emotions"), I believe, analysed and cross-checked my points what I found-out to be rationales (especially considering core-promises and expectations, this series was marketed and sold as**). So what I want is simply that whether you're open to honestly, seriously considering changing the 'Subject Folder' once I get 'successful' in convincing you that what I've 'seen' is largely-unnoticed by others [who're] raising voices (I promise I'm open to accept contestation of my points as-long-as they simply remain [completely-]rational and free-of any irrelevant-bias [towards particular characters]). Since I'm called as an "thinker" by my family members and relatives, kindly let me also err on the side of precaution that it's not out of my overconfidence, pride or 'sense of self-privilege' that I'm saying to you all of these. It's just that I don't want to waste IF's space and clutter it by generating more-than-needed content-identifiers (set of numbers alloted to any content on IF, including threads, posts, news articles, comments among others) along with the former (obviously). 😳

As a token of [establishing] 'trust', let me inform you that owing to your initial-responses, this week is not gonna be disappointing for "thriller-lovers" like you as everything will keep in the manner it has been heading followed by some 'roll-reversal' sort of thing when the hope will rekindle that "everything's gonna get sorted/'settled' ASAP" at the end of the week (withholding specific details for a reason) as I gathered. But still if you clearly/explicitly say "no" or unexpected-yet-unsurprisingly won't answer at all, I would have to consider other-options (which I'm currently unwilling to) after a certain period-of-time [countdown will obviously start from the time marked as timestamp]***. 😳

Need to mention that I've made all such efforts after taking into account all of the latest-responses so far [till the time of visiting the 'Post Reply' [web]page]? 🤔

*As expressly-aimed in some of the other forums I ever got interested in, maybe ultimately proving to be a 'laughing-stock' once they might've gotten closed.
**Point derived from the [PR-]statements of showrunners involved, also includes their accomplices [having proclaimed insider-knowledge].
***Timestamp as in the time of the original-posting of this post displaying. Explicit information withheld as an exercise of precaution given I'm yet to gauge your reaction (since "excess" of everything is wrong, so I can't just keep presuming by brainstorming my mind [before even giving you a chance]).

Thanking You!

Edit-Note #1: Made some grammatical-changes and fixed some [grammatical-]errors for the sake of convenience of future readers, given this post's length. 😊 Inspired by changes made in the original-post [of this thread]. 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheMachine

But oh my god, I am not looking to the fallout when Naz finds out that Salim's death was "Imaan's fault." Man oh man, I am ducking and covering for that one. Naz can be pretty scary.


That will be crazy.. as no matter what we say, Imaan was given information about that accident. There was little he could do though! 🤔

Your explanation about Lala makes sense.

Originally posted by: TheMachine

And what was that about Vikram seeing a report from the NSA and conveniently noticing Imaan in some video footage? Is that what happened? That's just dumb, on so many levels.




I think that was something to do with what Lala said about giving a lead to the media. Don't know how that helped his mission, as Vikram in fact saw Imaan at NSA.
Agree with you about Kirti. 👍🏼
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@RollingStones
Exactly. Even I'm still trying to figure that out.

@maazkalim
Okay. I'll be honest. I had to read your post twice to try and decipher your message and I hope I've got that right. 😆
This is what I gather from your post. You disagree with the topic/post/title, and feel it was not fate that decided it all. Maybe you mean to say Imaan had a choice? Also you seem not very fond of Salim. I am quite neutral when it comes to characters. Basically you want the title of the post changed. But I really need to know your insight on the same.
Also I do reply to posts. So hope that's cleared. 😃

P.S. What's OP?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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OP means "original poster." :)
Edited by TheMachine - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheMachine



<font color="#9900ff">Yeah. I assume they had Salim to show how life didn't stay the same for Naz after 17 years. Without him, Harleen and Naz would have the same story, essentially. Another way of showing that people aren't perfect, and a different moral conflict, I guess. But yeah, I get what you're saying. All this Shaira nonsense and Naz was feeling so bad for so long... When she finally made her choice, it didn't matter anymore. Tragic.</font>



Not even that ..Shaira's story was interesting and needed ..but this whole Imaan lying sacrifices and all makes No sense even more now .
If they already had planned Salim's characters death ,they could have more maturely taken script to a point where Naaz herself let Imaan now about Salim and her and Imaan letting her free to move ahead with salim ..this could have been Mature Handling and going with the Nayii Sochi that they wanted to present . The lying drama was so not necessary considering Salim's death .
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