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rope_and_anchor

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Posted: 7 years ago

17 years. My sister hadn't been born 17 years ago. About four governments have changed in 17 years. I was in kindergarten, 17 years ago. I have shifted homes six times in 17 years. One of my favorite candies have stopped production in these 17 years. Heck, the phone that I'm using to type this hadn't been made, 17 years ago.

Imagine if I had known and loved someone as my father, 17 years ago, but then he left, and never came back. And then someone else had given me and my brother everything a father could give, and more, throughout these 17 years.

Imagine if my mother had loved someone, got married to him, had kids with him, 17 years ago, but then he left, and never came back. But then someone else had become my mother's partner in life, literally, partnering her in every step.

Imagine if he had been a better parent to me than either of my parents. Imagine if he made my mother happier than anyone else ever had in these 17 years.

Imagine if she is now forced to choose between someone she had once loved, long back, for a very short time, and this man that has walked alongside her throughout the most crucial years of her life. Imagine my having to accept someone who is practically a stranger, as my father, over this man who has loved and cared for and nurtured me. Imagine this man having to live a lie, because this woman and these kids have accepted the other person as their family.

Imagine.

P.S.: I love Iman, as I do every other character. I'm just trying to make sense of the situation, as all of us are. I am probably in the minority here, but abstract concepts like 'he is her husband', and 'the kids HAVE to love him', do not have as much relevance/mettle as a real tangible thing like visible love and care and protection. Anyway. Loving the show, and all the characters, and the entire cast. Cheers to the forum!

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Posted: 7 years ago

abstract concepts like 'he is her husband', and 'the kids HAVE to love him'

Me too not at all in favour of the above Ideology , But thenThere is always a way to Handle things ...

I understand the Plight , If you don't like something don't do it .

17 yrs is heck Lot of a time , generations changes , thinking changes . You do accept other people in your Life and move on .

But my only concern is , Is it necessary to be mean with the other person , Insult him ..?? Heck He probably even don't know why is he being put in Spot .

Only way I see is Communication .

communicate your thought's to him. Make your family understand the gravity of the Lie .

More over , It's responsibility of the Elder's to own up and sort this out .

And I certainly don't support the Crazy nautanki that was done by Shaira yest just to manoa her Baat .

You know your Mother , Chachu loves you then why such life-taking act ..?? Such kids are nothing but Spoilt Brat ...too much Pampering done by Parents , totally wrong way of Upbringing .

Pyaar diya hain , toh Tameez bhi sikhao ...

On another Note : This show really dwelves into Human Psyche , Deeper Human Emotions ... The setting is such that It make you think on deeper human aspect .

Some solid Brain and Emotions churning material this show has presented...

Edited by RollingStones - 7 years ago

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rope_and_anchor

@rope_and_anchor

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Posted: 7 years ago

^I agree the adults need to quit skirting around the issue. Naaz needs to convey the reality of the situation to Iman, even if she is unable to take a decision right now.

But Shaira, I understand where she is coming from. This random dude has showed up at her home, and all of a sudden, the reality of her entire life is getting taken away from her. If I was in her place, I know I would act out and take all the drastic steps that I feel may help the situation, no matter what the consequences, if it would keep my reality going. A reality in which everyone was happy and content. I wouldn't be thinking of how this absolute stranger would feel. Or what other consequences it may have on my own safety. It's a question of my family. The sense of urgency in my mind, would override all sense of manners and politeness.

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sp108

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Posted: 7 years ago

I understand Shaira's plight - overnight "her" picture of a happy family is all over. But can't we expect some kind of sensitivity from her? She is self-absorbed to the extent that she can't see that this stranger who has returned has faced a terrible life the last 17 years. And she is acting extremely immature. Life always throws hurdles and road-blocks. You can't cry that I don't want to move ahead but stay where I am because there is a road block ahead.

As for Naaz, I feel she still loves Iman, but misses Salim because with Salim the children felt a sense of family. 17 years is a long time to not move on. If Iman was easy to forget, she would have moved on long back.

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 7 years ago

I could understand Shaira's coldness towards Imaan. But I couldn't connect with her yesterday. She came as a spoilt, selfish brat. This is where I had been telling Shaira wants Salim as Abu not because she really loves him, but because he was way too lenient with her. Otherwise which father would allow their daughter to be in police station more than once just the way Salim comes. Why isn't she disciplined.

I am not talking here about gender equality and all. Of course she can go to pub, party and all. But whether it is her or Ayaan they should be keeping certain decorum which kids of good upbringing are supposed to show. Shaira completely lacks it, Ayaan is still ok though he has bad habits like smoking which Imaan caught. Salim didn't

Now this girl is not showing basic humanity. Imaan has not gone on his will leaving his family. He was POW. She should have the slightest sensitivity in understanding what her father or leave it a human has undergone in that condition. That too not for one or 2 days. But for 17 years. I would want this girl to be kept in captivity atleast for couple of days with the threat of rape hanging over her, for her to understand what life is. What her father has gone through. How the people are suffering and people like Imaan are staking their life so that idiots and insensitive people like her can have gala time.

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DivanIshraru

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Posted: 7 years ago

Shaira is just a spoil brat .

Her cold and rude attitude towards Imaan is so not done and neither her interference into her parents issues.

Naaz and salim are wrong in hiding their feelings from imaan bt that doesn't gives shaira the right to insult Imaan.

her father didn't left them on his wish and was living a happy life bt was being torchered in the black camp.

Imaan must have always wished to meet his family and be happy which he is trying to do now.

And you said that Imaan is a random dude.NO.He is no random dude.He is her father,who has returned after 17 years of torcher .she always knew about Imaan biend her father(although presumed dead)..Had the truth of Imaan being hidden from Shaira all this while,I would have understood her reaction.Bt no,right now I can't sypathise with shaira nor feel for her.

i am not against Naaz-salim.If they love each other,they should take their time and go to Imaan and say the truth bt i am hating shaira's interference in all this.

Ayaan is way better than shaira.He understands her parents conditions and respect them and even has developed such a good bond with Imaan.

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bhshre95

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Posted: 7 years ago

i understand that 17 years is a very long time n shaira is upset because her happy family is broken now. i know she cannot just accept and love imaan as her father. but atleast she can show some humanity towards him. its not like she is a small kid who cannot understand the gravity of the situation. she is 18. even a stranger will feel bad for imaan. she is behaving as if iman was out enjoying himself for all these years. he was tortured for 17 years n was a prisoner of war. the least she can do is behave nicely with him. n if she has so much problem she can tell the truth directly to him instead of showing coldness n rudeness towards him. yesterday i felt so bad for iman, i mean all these years he thought of his family, n now seeing his daughter's behaviour towards him n realising that maybe he is no more needed in the family, how bad he must have felt.

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rithika2015

@rithika2015

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Posted: 7 years ago

let us make one point clear here..

i have read many comments in the forum on this topic but all i can say is none in the forum says that shaira and ayaan has to accept Iman back as he is their father and none said that Naz has to accept Iman as he is her husband..

shaira is hated not for her feelings towards salim but she is pointed out for her behaviour towards Iman. There is no written rule that she needs to accept him as he is her father but she can behave with manners and give him respect which he deserves both as her father and according to his age and the person who is.. but no she behaves very coldly and hurtingly towards him.

shaira behaves with Iman as if he wantedly left the family for sake of some reason for 17 years and returned abruptly. but thats not the case she need to understand what he might have gone thru these 17 years. but no she behaves very stupidly.

she want to see her mom and chachu together but the decision should be taken by her mom and chachu. what she would have done if naz rejected the proposal on the diwali night?? would she keep pestering her mom like she is doing now?? she need to realise that they are adults and they have the right to take every decision of their lives. If her mom choses to be with salim then its fair and ok and she would be happy but if she choses Iman then does any one stop her from interatcting with salim and considering him as her fatherly figure??

so if only salim is married to naz they he is her fatherly figure otherwise he is not her fatherly figure?? does this make any sense??

shaira has seen bond between Naz and salim but she doesnt know how the bond between naz and Iman was. then why cant she leave it to them. her mom could not accept salim for 17 years after Iman's disappearence by this cant she understand the bond naz and iman shared. If Iman was so easy to forget naz would have moved on long back.

Her mother confessed to her that none of them were wrong and its only the circumstances and if anyone was to be blamed it was she as created the mess (which i dont agree as everyone has the right to move on) but why shaira always make it sound as if only Iman was wrong.

wasnt ayaan away from Iman these 17 years?? he even doesnt have any type of bond with him but still doesnt he behave properly with him. he even talked harshly with vikram in his college for the trouble vikram caused to iman in the name of debriefing.

we are not saying shaira to accept Iman but she needs to realise that he is a human who has been thru hell for past 17 years and they are the only solace he has and they need to give that to him. If not out of love atleast out of sympathy or responsibility..

its the mistake of naz to hide everything from iman and let shaira hurt him bit by bit. she need to tell him and then decide with mutual consent.

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rope_and_anchor

@rope_and_anchor

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Posted: 7 years ago

Thank you for all the replies. I get what you're saying, and to a huge extent, I agree.

1. Salim was a lenient parent.
2. Iman was a POW. He was tortured.
3. Iman was off serving his country while Shaira was leading a comfortable life.
4. Iman is her father.

How Salim was as a parent, or what Iman was doing when he was away from home, or what Iman is officially to her, does not change the fact that she does not know this person, and that Salim is the only father figure she has ever known. And that was the only point I made. The only father figure she has, has said that he is cutting them off immediately. Shaira is desperate to keep him. Which is what resulted in those utterly stupidly reckless actions. She could have utmost respect for Iman, and still that wouldn't matter, because he has come to wreck her only concept of a home. Please think, would you follow any decorum, if some person who actually does hav more claim on your family, causes the only person you've considered your father, to go away from you immediately?

I sympathize with all of them. And I understand where they are all coming from. I'm just saying that her being a spoilt brat is not the sole reason for her acting out. She is desperate. Behind this bratty behavior is her plea for her family to become stable like before.

P.S.: I repeat, I do love and respect Iman. And thank you for putting out your views.

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Flame.

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Posted: 7 years ago

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Imaan is someone Shaira has never missed having around her because she always had a very loving father in the form of Saleem. Who looked after her, took care of her, promised her at the age of 6 that he'd always have her back and pampered her to a questionable point. Even Naz said he's spoiling her after he bailed Shaira out at the police station.

So I can totally get the preemptive strikes that she's been pulling out in order to save her 'perfect family' from disintegrating because of a certain someone. She's stubborn, no beating around the bush type and also very self centered so this sort of behavior is expected from her but the girl needs to pause and think. For a moment, think about someone apart from herself because lets be clear here. Its not about Naz and Saleem for her but about HER perfect family that is in shambles right now. Its all about her and when things don't go her way then its certainly the high way. Her yesterday's act proved that.

We all might have different opinions on Shaira but I think we can all agree that she's very immature and inconsiderate. Yes, she's a teen and she's still very small but she's 18 for goodness sake! Its an age where one can understand what is right and what is wrong and can certainly show some amount of sensitivity. No one in the world is asking her to go running into Imaan's arms and label him the best dad in the world. Not at all, but she can at least think about the torture he's gone through for 17 years and why he had to leave when he left to fight for the country. Does this girl not read the news at all? Does she not know what transpired at Kargil and why the world is giving Imaan the respect that he's getting right now? Don't see him as your father but at least respect him as a soldier who's come back to his family after 17 years and genuinely seems happy about it.

The fact that Shaira can see Imaan only as her home-breaker is very annoying to be honest. Shaira behaves as if Imaan had gone for a picnic and not suffering all these years. Ayaan also seemed so sad at Salim's decision of staying away from them, Ayaan also wanted Salim to be their Abbu but he's not complicating things the way Shaira is. He's not getting drunk and insulting and being mean to every person he encounters. In fact he's willing to give time to his biological parents and his Chachu because these are decisions supposed to be taken by them.

Bottom line is that it doesn't matter if Shaira sees Imaan as her Dad or not and I can't even expect her to accept him in that way (At least for now) with Salim around but all I want to see is her being a little sensitive, considerate, respectful and humane toward a soldier who has come back to his country, family after almost two decades. Don't behave with him the way you behave with Salim but don't insult him for doing something he is totally unaware of and is literally not at fault in any way! (I know she was drunk but she's not really kind when she's sober either)

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