Rooftop - Old Blues or New Beginnings?

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hi Everyone! So for those who don't know me, I'm Sneha. Tried out this show 'cause of friend suggestions (*shoutout* to UntamableSpirit and Aahana-) and I have got to say I'm hooked. Loving everything so far, even the not so like-able characters, since they're not really right or wrong. They're just human, and in most parts, correct in their stance from where they're standing. That's why this show is such a pleasure, because it's relatable. It feels like this forum is going to be one great ride, and I hope we get this show up and running (TRP-wise since that seems to be so important in India!). Thanks to Hotstar, I just watched the November 14th episode so if you haven't yet, please don't spoil yourself! 😆 (Do come back and comment once you see it though! 😳)

Can I just say, that I haven't seen something as beautiful, yet as complex and full of angst on Indian television as the rooftop scene in today's episode since quite a while? I fell in love with that scene, mostly I reckon, for it's simplicity, but especially also, for the amazing play of words and expressions by the writers, as well as the actors involved. Gosh I miss good old meaningful TV! Thank you POW! I just felt like decoding, in hopefully a not-too long thesis, what Imaam-Naz-Salim must have felt in those moments:


Nazneen: She's a devoted mother, and a dutiful wife; but she's a torn individual. Her husband came back from 17 years of suffering, and all he seems to want back, is his family. His wife, his kids, his brother. Except, it's 17 years later, and nothing can really stay the same in that long a span of time now, can it? He seeks her hand once again, over the sunrise and to a fresh new life and she wants to give it to him, but behind her kneeled husband stands tall a harsh reality. Imaam's asking her to start afresh a life he hasn't lived, yet forgetting that she has. For 17 years, she's gone on without him and had he arrived a day later, or a month or a year; she might not even have been his to ask for anymore. Probably already isn't, emotionally speaking. And worse, her conflicted interest is asking her to accept that hand. What should she do? How is it a choice? And if it is, how is it fair? Why is compromise always the toil of a woman's spirit?


Salim: I just want to start out by saying - can we please not have him turn negative? Ever! That is such a wonderfully selfless character. He's a great son, a great brother, a great lover, a great father, albeit the children not being biologically his own. Sometimes, I can even understand where Shaira is coming from. For her, Salim is her father; has been for 17 years, and in her case, that's her whole lifetime. She can be inconsiderate, but she isn't wrong. In fact, she's absolutely right in my understanding. The longer they lie to Imaam about the relationship dynamics in the house, the more hurt he'll be further down the line. Salim, on the other hand, is, as his brother says the 'hero' of the house - the proverbial son who wouldn't step wrong in any direction. Yet this isn't writing a letter to a crush, or getting scolded for a cigarette. This is love, the most poignant emotion in the world. He's irreversibly in love with his brother's wife. Will he be able to hide it? Worse, will he be able to give up someone that, just 2 days ago, practically just became his? Especially when, very clearly, she seemed to have fallen for him too?


Imaam: What a complex, fascinating character! And kuddos to the actor playing him! That character is probably the most mysterious on this show! Who is Imaam? Is he the one who shouted at his wife in public and tells Sartaj to keep his mouth shut? Or is Imaam the father who set up a date for his son, and who took his wife for a romantic rooftop sunrise proposal? What is a facade? What is real? As Vikram said, he's not just anyone. He's been a POW for 17 years. A lot can change. A lot has changed. He reads Namaz in private, and parties and drinks alcohol in public. I don't question his loyalty to his family or country, he genuinely seems to be glad to be back home. What I do question however, is his loyalty to his own self. That's a man who's not tortured by anything anymore, having physically borne so much, yet pictures of his brother playing with his estranged daughter seemed to have flickered something inside of him. Why call Salim on that rooftop? He didn't actually need him to say another mere 2 lines. Was it done on purpose? Or was it subconscious, yet had an aim?


Precap looks harsh!


Catch y'all later for further more.
Cheers,
S.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Brilliant take on the episode & Khan family characters namely Imaam, Nazneen & Salim by u, Sneha! 👏
Looking forward to watching the episode on TV at 10:30 pm IST.
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Very well written !! 👏
Loved your entire paragraph on Imaan. Is he the man who publicly shouted at his wife, or is he the one who set his son up on a date ?

And seriously I did not understand the necessity of Salim's presence in Naaz and Iman's moment. Why ? Just why ?

As of now, Imaan is the most mysterious character. Yet I cannot fall in love with him more and more and more ! He is such a great father to his kids. I love how he is trying to pick things up and gather his lost relationships back together. His efforts are very genuine and very visible too.

But given how mysterious this guy gets, I sometimes feel if this is all just a facacde. Is this not going to be true. Will the man, we have all come to love so much, just crush our happy hopes. Though I am extremely fascinated about Imaan, at the same time I feel a deep sense of eeriness if he's going to change, and this is just a camouflage. I dont want him to hurt his family further with any sort of betrayal or mission that he has come with. Or maybe there is no mission. Maybe its just a task in return for their return to their lives after 17 years of captivity.

There are a thousand thoughts that come to my head. But I am just not too sure about anything.
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Snehaa ❤️ 👍🏼
I will first talk about Salim. Well...I just hope this does NOT go the cliched route and he turns negative or anything near that. Although there are signs of annoyance from his side which I feel is normal given the circumstances. I feel so sad for him but I still haven't warmed up to him the way I have to Imaan. I don't know if its because Salim isn't very expressive when it comes to his feelings whereas Imaan is totally opposite and very talkative. Or is it because I feel there's no chemistry between him and Nazneen? I frankly have no idea! But I totally loved the Khan brothers scene today and it gave us an insight into Saleem. I hope we have more such scenes.

Imaan's love for Nazneen is so deep and he totally wants to make it work which breaks my heart as I know this is not going to end well for at least one character in the triangle.
I don't know exactly what but something seemed so beautiful in the scene where Imaan bends to get on his knees and both Saleem and Naz reach out to him. No one's at fault here, no one dislikes anyone..in fact all three hold each other in deep affection but the circumstances are going to tangle up their lives and ultimately hearts are going to break.
I just can't get enough of this show. Wish the episodes were longer.




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Posted: 7 years ago
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Interesting write-up. About Imaan Khan. I would like to believe that after the torture he went through for 17 years, he just doesn't want to waste another minute and enjoy the life with his family. From the first day, he wanted everyone to be normal and casual. Regarding Imaan calling Salim, I assumed he called him for help coz of his leg and him riding bike after so many years? Silly me! BUT, as you mentioned there's something very curious about him.
On contrary, Sartaj is deeply scarred for life and he is unable to come out of it. It would be interesting how Harleen will help him out.
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Yo *DG* ---- you know having a *DG* makes this forum life so much easier --- now I don't even have to spell out every detail or opinions --- I can just go +1 copy & paste your thoughts & move on ---- *😛*
Very well written --- I can tell this show is going to bring forth many such *amazing discussions & varied perceptions* ---- the show is made so realistically speaking esp the way characters are etched out --- it'll be hard not to poke in every hook & corner of their lives ---- looking forward to many more such threads from you ---- !!!!!!
Keep your inner *writer* alive & kicking b/c it's such a pleasure reading your thoughts & insights ---- *😃*

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Beautiful post Sneha. There is something about Imaan that looks mysterious. Or rather I would say there is something about Saleem that looks mysterious.
Imaan is an army man. Lot can change after 17 years. But can the training he got in army go. Can that shrewdness to understand situations go. That training, that experience is in this man's head. Why do I feel he knows what is cooking between Saleem and Naz. And that rooftop bringing of Saleem was to reiterate this fact indirectly. That Naz is his. I have watched epi till 16 Nov. I am not putting those things here. But do watch out for the cookery show and see if you are feeling the same.
Coming to Saleem he looks too good to be true. I mean when Imaan disappeared I feel his relation with Naaz would have been that of bhabi-devar right. His bhabi had a daughter and as per promo was pregnant with second child. Becoming a father like figure to kids is fine, but why didn't Saleem marry. Because he could have still provided the support to kids being married as Naz doesn't need any financial support. This part of him intrigues me beyond anything. I want CVs to give me some plausible explanation for his unmarried status. Even a ditched love or a love affair ended because he told he will have to support his bhabi and kids is also fine. But lack of something looks quite odd.
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Originally posted by: -Swetha-

Brilliant take on the episode & Khan family characters namely Imaam, Nazneen & Salim by u, Sneha! 👏
Looking forward to watching the episode on TV at 10:30 pm IST.



Hi Swetha!

Thank you so very much. Looking forward to engage in interesting discussions always.

Hope you liked the scene as much as I did. Who's your favorite character so far? Or should I say, the one who intrigues you the most and makes you want to root for him/her?
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Originally posted by: Sindhu_18

Very well written !! 👏

Loved your entire paragraph on Imaan. Is he the man who publicly shouted at his wife, or is he the one who set his son up on a date ?

And seriously I did not understand the necessity of Salim's presence in Naaz and Iman's moment. Why ? Just why ?

As of now, Imaan is the most mysterious character. Yet I cannot fall in love with him more and more and more ! He is such a great father to his kids. I love how he is trying to pick things up and gather his lost relationships back together. His efforts are very genuine and very visible too.

But given how mysterious this guy gets, I sometimes feel if this is all just a facacde. Is this not going to be true. Will the man, we have all come to love so much, just crush our happy hopes. Though I am extremely fascinated about Imaan, at the same time I feel a deep sense of eeriness if he's going to change, and this is just a camouflage. I dont want him to hurt his family further with any sort of betrayal or mission that he has come with. Or maybe there is no mission. Maybe its just a task in return for their return to their lives after 17 years of captivity.

There are a thousand thoughts that come to my head. But I am just not too sure about anything.



Oh thank you Recap Buddy! 😛


Exactly. I was the same at that point. I can understand that he needed up for the plan, but he didn't actually require him on the roof for the special moment. For someone who's as observant and suffered 17 years, he doesn't seem as oblivious as to not realize Salim taking his place, both literally and figuratively. Either I'm overestimating him, or Imaam is definitely up to something.


I feel so too. I feel as if it's a well thought of facade. It isn't that he doesn't love his wife or his family. However I think, he doesn't feel like he's really returned home completely. There's something going on, and 'till that isn't done and dusted, he cannot be entirely present. Him making everything want to look normal just reminds me of a psychiatric patient, who usually, knows he's sick but insists that everything be kept the same irrespective.


Oh spill out your thoughts, we'd love to hear them. And you're right, that's what awesome about POW so far. You think you're going in one direction and whoops, it changes course. After the outburst at Naz, I thought Imaam was going to be closed off and distant like Sartaj, pushing her further towards Salim. And then he goes and does that rooftop proposal. 😳
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Beautiful post Sneha. There is something about Imaan that looks mysterious. Or rather I would say there is something about Saleem that looks mysterious.

Imaan is an army man. Lot can change after 17 years. But can the training he got in army go. Can that shrewdness to understand situations go. That training, that experience is in this man's head. Why do I feel he knows what is cooking between Saleem and Naz. And that rooftop bringing of Saleem was to reiterate this fact indirectly. That Naz is his. I have watched epi till 16 Nov. I am not putting those things here. But do watch out for the cookery show and see if you are feeling the same.
Coming to Saleem he looks too good to be true. I mean when Imaan disappeared I feel his relation with Naaz would have been that of bhabi-devar right. His bhabi had a daughter and as per promo was pregnant with second child. Becoming a father like figure to kids is fine, but why didn't Saleem marry. Because he could have still provided the support to kids being married as Naz doesn't need any financial support. This part of him intrigues me beyond anything. I want CVs to give me some plausible explanation for his unmarried status. Even a ditched love or a love affair ended because he told he will have to support his bhabi and kids is also fine. But lack of something looks quite odd.


No idea about Salim as yet but I have been feeling that Imaan has sensed something. Since he's come back, Naz and Salim have been exchanging silent looks and if one looks a little closely, its not very difficult to desipher that something is on. And this is Imaan we are talking about. An airforce man who clearly is pretty shrewd and quick. Look at the way he has so fast learned to manage the net and facebook. He's figured out Shaira has a problem with him and those who have seen the upcoming episodes will know about his friendly(?) warning to her. If he has managed all this, is it really possible for him to have not noticed the tension between Naz and Salim? I honestly dont think so
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