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Posted: 11 years ago
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I have been silent member of this forum till now.

I could never understand why members here abuse Sajid Khan so much. His comments are partial, he eliminated this jodi because he did not like someone, does he know dancing, why he is judge and all that. I mean seriously do you think he is the producer of the show that he has so much power?😉

Experience shows that most of the reality shows are directed and manipulated in a particular way. There is always some drama like blanking out on stage, injuries, some rona dhona about their loved ones, some poor participant's struggle, some comedy, some judge fights, hosts making fools of themselves, judges and participants encounter. There was nothing different in NB5 that hasn't happened in earlier shows.

I watch TV for entertainment too (Yes I agree with Sajid here). If I don't get interested in a show, I will switch channel to watch something else, There are many options available. NB has to have other entertainment because if you want to watch pure dance, you should avoid this show and watch DID or other similar dance based shows where professional dancers participate.

NB is about celebrity and their partners and their dancing and the channel has to grab eyeballs by showing some entertainment because the participants are not that great in dancing. That's why a show like NB does not need judges who are experts of dance. All reality show judges follow a pattern too, there has to be one beautiful face, one blunt person and one professional of that genre like dance, singing etc just to show that the show has that element too.

If you have followed Sajid Khan he has always believed in entertainment be his films or remember his encounter with Ashutosh Gowarikar in an award show. He has admitted that to grab eyeballs the channel needs drama. So I wouldn't be surprised if his encounter with Sargun was also planned by channel. Whether you agree with him or not with him is a different question. But when he is chosen as a judge he will say things for effect which channel has already anticipated and wants him to do and that is why he is chosen a judge. After all the show has to get TRPS, get sponsors, make profit. Just one person as a judge does not make a show. There are many people who are behind all this.

So guys don't take all this so seriously. It is just a show. Whoever wins makes no difference in your life. Watch it, enjoy it and forget it. Very soon the next show will be in line...

Please comments and share your views.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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i totally agree with u devica
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Many of us see dis show for dance i agree with u r some points but if u see sajid give good marks his favourite.
Last time terence and shilpa give 9 marks to charmar and he gave 7 marks bcaz he is belive in entertining acts and charmar do pure dance not acts same happen last perfomance i don't mention couple name but terence and shilpa give 10 marks but sajid gave 11 marks bcaz they r his 1 of fav couple..
And dis is NACH baliye not ENTERTIMENT baliye.
Most of fans see dis show for nach not entertiment.

This show is make for non dancer's dance.
So all r non dancer and dis is creat compitition between non dancers but if judges give gud marks to entertiment and comedy than it's unfair wid other bcaz they do nach not comedy ..
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I am a neutral viewer, and not supporting any one couple in particular. I also have nothing against Sajid... sometimes, I find him entertaining, but most of the times annoying. Sajid has his moments, but he is not the only one to blame. Starplus has found an easy target in him, to cover up their botched jobs.

1. Editing sucks big time. They focus on one person when the couple are dancing side by side. How the hell do we know that there is no sync between them if we can't see. This show IS for us to watch too, not just the judges or the audience. Also sunday's episode, Neelu was holding the plate with kitkat even before Sajid gave it to her. Editors of this show are taking us for granted.

2. Whoever pulls the strings has to be fired ASAP. They royally screwed up during Karan-Nisha's areal act, and they also screwed up Suhasi-Jaysheel areal act this week. They would have done much better if they were pulled together at the right time.

3. Who wants to listen to participants' sad sob stories on a dance show? I will watch Kim Kardashian or Jersey Shore for that kind of drama. For once, I am glad Sajid is a judge, for dissuading sob stories and getting them on track.

4. As we all know, reality shows are just namesake. I wish there is some kind of transparent system that publishes actual number of votes. Our hard earned money goes into the votes, and it's only fair that we get some kind of closure.

5. There is no clear format or theme that the couple can dance. At one point of time all the dance forms started looking the same for me, just a change in costumes. As much as I like Shefali and Parag, their dance was getting so monotonous with just daring lifts in every dance. Of course, they did try something different once and it cost their stay in the show. If everyone are given the same challenge, we can get to see dancers come out of their comfort zones, and entertain us.

6. Choreographers are not even making an effort to get in a new concept or try something innovative. Starplus is showing blind eye on tried and tested concepts. Plagiarism at it's best!

6. India has to take a GIANT leap forward, and air these reality shows live. That's the only way we can get to see unadulterated performances.

I wonder why NB took such a looong break after NB4. Sometimes, it's better not to provide a half-baked show and get viewers agitated. Sajid Khan, alone cannot pull the show on his shoulders with his 'entertainment', it should have some substance too.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Avc380

Many of us see dis show for dance i agree with u r some points but if u see sajid give good marks his favourite.
Last time terence and shilpa give 9 marks to charmar and he gave 7 marks bcaz he is belive in entertining acts and charmar do pure dance not acts same happen last perfomance i don't mention couple name but terence and shilpa give 10 marks but sajid gave 11 marks bcaz they r his 1 of fav couple..
And dis is NACH baliye not ENTERTIMENT baliye.
Most of fans see dis show for nach not entertiment.

This show is make for non dancer's dance.
So all r non dancer and dis is creat compitition between non dancers but if judges give gud marks to entertiment and comedy than it's unfair wid other bcaz they do nach not comedy ..


But then every judge in all shows have one or two favorites. In DID also the judges praise their own team members more than others. Shilpa has one favorite couple too. It is not necessary that Sajid has to give same marks as other judges. If he is a judge then he has the power to decide. You may not agree with it because that couple may not be your favorite but that does not mean the couple did not deserve it. I have found him OK with his marks. Sometimes a couple could be doing pure dancing but still the act may not touch your heart. In my opinion none of Charmer's act were that exceptional. That does not take away the fact that Amar is a great dancer. But this time he simply did not click. Why blame Sajid for it?

Another thing it is not that only those doing comedy are getting marks. Sajid has given marks to JaiMahi too. They do not do comedy.
BTW I am not Sajid fan or supporter But I am neutral about him.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: desiRED

I am a neutral viewer, and not supporting any one couple in particular. I also have nothing against Sajid... sometimes, I find him entertaining, but most of the times annoying. Sajid has his moments, but he is not the only one to blame. Starplus has found an easy target in him, to cover up their botched jobs.

1. Editing sucks big time. They focus on one person when the couple are dancing side by side. How the hell do we know that there is no sync between them if we can't see. This show IS for us to watch too, not just the judges or the audience. Also sunday's episode, Neelu was holding the plate with kitkat even before Sajid gave it to her. Editors of this show are taking us for granted.

2. Whoever pulls the strings has to be fired ASAP. They royally screwed up during Karan-Nisha's areal act, and they also screwed up Suhasi-Jaysheel areal act this week. They would have done much better if they were pulled together at the right time.

3. Who wants to listen to participants' sad sob stories on a dance show? I will watch Kim Kardashian or Jersey Shore for that kind of drama. For once, I am glad Sajid is a judge, for dissuading sob stories and getting them on track.

4. As we all know, reality shows are just namesake. I wish there is some kind of transparent system that publishes actual number of votes. Our hard earned money goes into the votes, and it's only fair that we get some kind of closure.

5. There is no clear format or theme that the couple can dance. At one point of time all the dance forms started looking the same for me, just a change in costumes. As much as I like Shefali and Parag, their dance was getting so monotonous with just daring lifts in every dance. Of course, they did try something different once and it cost their stay in the show. If everyone are given the same challenge, we can get to see dancers come out of their comfort zones, and entertain us.

6. Choreographers are not even making an effort to get in a new concept or try something innovative. Starplus is showing blind eye on tried and tested concepts. Plagiarism at it's best!

6. India has to take a GIANT leap forward, and air these reality shows live. That's the only way we can get to see unadulterated performances.

I wonder why NB took such a looong break after NB4. Sometimes, it's better not to provide a half-baked show and get viewers agitated. Sajid Khan, alone cannot pull the show on his shoulders with his 'entertainment', it should have some substance too.



Loved your reply. Thank you for detailed analysis. I also agree that after certain point dance starts getting monotonous with often repeated themes and same dramebaazi and that's why it is hard to watch a show like NB5 where the dancers are average.

Frankly I have seen this show in bits and pieces .

And about voting. I never waste my hard earned money on these shows. I only voted once in my life during Indian Idol 1 for Abhijeet Sawant. After that one realized that frankly it makes no difference to your life whoever wins. I guess even the 'missed call' voting option nowadays is to encourage to vote. Maybe voting has reduced drastically.
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But then every judge in all shows have one or two favorites. In DID also the judges praise their own team members more than others. Shilpa has one favorite couple too. It is not necessary that Sajid has to give same marks as other judges. If he is a judge then he has the power to decide. You may not agree with it because that couple may not be your favorite but that does not mean the couple did not deserve it. I have found him OK with his marks. Sometimes a couple could be doing pure dancing but still the act may not touch your heart. In my opinion none of Charmer's act were that exceptional. That does not take away the fact that Amar is a great dancer. But this time he simply did not click. Why blame Sajid for it?

Another thing it is not that only those doing comedy are getting marks. Sajid has given marks to JaiMahi too. They do not do comedy.
BTW I am not Sajid fan or supporter But I am neutral about him.



if sajid had any knowlage or idea about dance than he deserve to those so called judge power.all know about his judgement very well 😆

i'm charmar fan as u know but think before if sm1 had no any idea about dance that he or she deserve to be judge in dance show ??

you really think nillu arvind deserve 10 marks. Arvind also forgot step so sajid said come back tha lolz and charlie forgot step confidence pe kaam kro.he always support nillu arvind and jay mahi..



He give 10 marks to nillu arvind and 7 marks to charmar.dis is main point he should be blame. He give 7 marks bcaz acts is not entertanig but dance is much better than nillu arvind..

Terence and shilpa give 9 marks and he didn't know even D of dance he give 7 marks . I think use vo dance stlye konsa he vohi pta nai hoga to act kha se samaj aayega... 😆

DID to compare hi mat kro bcaz DID is much better show than Scripted and flop shows like nb5 even nt desereve to be compare with DID.
And in DID judges give marks very strickly on dance not his or her own expection or improvement wise.

SAJID IS NOT DESERVE TO BE JUDGE IN DANCE SHOW Agar judge rakhna hi tha to kisi talanted people ko rakhte jise dance ki koi info ho like terence sir..

Now come to charmar
Charmar do not ACTS charmar do nach dance and in diffrent style dance hiphop ,b boying ,robotics nt diffrent type acts jugle ka aadimanv and all ..😆

Non deserve couple are there
If judges give marks on improvement and his own expectation wise than it's unfair with other couple..

Charmar are safe according to point they get 90 point and karan nisha + suhasi jaisheel get less point than charmar. It's sure show is scripted it's already proved before charmar elemination in rahul and dimpy times 😉

Sajid give gud marks to jay mahi bcaz their dance and acts both better so uske paas less marks dene ka excuse hi nai he.

Any ways amar knw that wht happen behind stage and he moving on and we are also done with dis show.amar deserve much better show and sajid said he is there bcaz of popularity but popularity kha se aayi amar work in small channle jo pure india me bhi telecast nai hoti amar populer bcaz of his talant, dance not like other sister ki help se or family politics whatever.

Unfair happen with sm couple like shefali parag , charlie amar and ravi sargun many time. Their act with dance is much better than others but judges give less marks bcaz they expect more woww.

Amar ko sajid ke place pe hona chahiye as a judge and sajid ko amar ke samne perfomance deni chahiye 😆

nachbaliye other season much better den dis season NOW NO Matter who win nb5 fake trophy..

Bbyee nb5 and nb5 forum.. Muuuhhaa.😉 😆

true top 5 couple list

jay-mahi, shefali-parag, ravi-sargun, amar-charlie and suhasi-jaisheel

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Originally posted by: Avc380



if sajid had any knowlage or idea about dance than he deserve to those so called judge power.all know about his judgement very well 😆

i'm charmar fan as u know but think before if sm1 had no any idea about dance that he or she deserve to be judge in dance show ??

you really think nillu arvind deserve 10 marks. Arvind also forgot step so sajid said come back tha lolz and charlie forgot step confidence pe kaam kro.he always support nillu arvind and jay mahi..



He give 10 marks to nillu arvind and 7 marks to charmar.dis is main point he should be blame. He give 7 marks bcaz acts is not entertanig but dance is much better than nillu arvind..

Terence and shilpa give 9 marks and he didn't know even D of dance he give 7 marks . I think use vo dance stlye konsa he vohi pta nai hoga to act kha se samaj aayega... 😆

DID to compare hi mat kro bcaz DID is much better show than Scripted and flop shows like nb5 even nt desereve to be compare with DID.
And in DID judges give marks very strickly on dance not his or her own expection or improvement wise.

SAJID IS NOT DESERVE TO BE JUDGE IN DANCE SHOW Agar judge rakhna hi tha to kisi talanted people ko rakhte jise dance ki koi info ho like terence sir..

Now come to charmar
Charmar do not ACTS charmar do nach dance and in diffrent style dance hiphop ,b boying ,robotics nt diffrent type acts jugle ka aadimanv and all ..😆

Non deserve couple are there
If judges give marks on improvement and his own expectation wise than it's unfair with other couple..

Charmar are safe according to point they get 90 point and karan nisha + suhasi jaisheel get less point than charmar. It's sure show is scripted it's already proved before charmar elemination in rahul and dimpy times 😉

Sajid give gud marks to jay mahi bcaz their dance and acts both better so uske paas less marks dene ka excuse hi nai he.

Any ways amar knw that wht happen behind stage and he moving on and we are also done with dis show.amar deserve much better show and sajid said he is there bcaz of popularity but popularity kha se aayi amar work in small channle jo pure india me bhi telecast nai hoti amar populer bcaz of his talant, dance not like other sister ki help se or family politics whatever.

Unfair happen with sm couple like shefali parag , charlie amar and ravi sargun many time. Their act with dance is much better than others but judges give less marks bcaz they expect more woww.

Amar ko sajid ke place pe hona chahiye as a judge and sajid ko amar ke samne perfomance deni chahiye 😆

nachbaliye other season much better den dis season NOW NO Matter who win nb5 fake trophy..

Bbyee nb5 and nb5 forum.. Muuuhhaa.😉 😆

true top 5 couple list

jay-mahi, shefali-parag, ravi-sargun, amar-charlie and suhasi-jaisheel


So you agree that the show is scripted. We agree on this one.

But my point is it scripted by Sajid only? He has that much voice ?? There is a channel and there is a production house. And a sure winner popular couple/contestant to get eliminated is also often repeated part of the script. Just see the history of reality shows. It gives zatka to audience and brings in much needed TRPs.

This time Charmer were the bakaras. I understand you are pissed off with them eliminated and I do like Amar a lot too.

This post is not about any couple. I have no favorite jodi. I am just giving my view of how a reality show is presented.


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Devica,

Hi...😃

The television industry is all about entertainment, right??...people get entertained, hence they watch...hence advertisers hover around the producers of hit shows...n hence the shows go on...

Now, what exactly is ENTERTAINMENT??...TV is entertainment...n acc to me, comedy, horror, romance, drama, saas bahu nok jhok, dance, reality shows all entertain, n hence they have a slot on television...

SAjId khan is obviously under false beliefs that entertainment & comedy are synonyms....they are NOT!!...a dance can most definitely be very entertaining without an iota of comedy...I may be a sucker for singing, but imagine the mayhem I will cause if I land up as a judge on a comedy show, n judge contestants on their ability to sing!!...ridiculous, na????...😆...same thing applies to SAjId ...every time Rahul/Dimpy or Arvind/Nilu do their comedy acts, all 3 judges are busy DOUBLING up laughing n giving *hi5s* to each other 😆: how will they be able to appreciate the nuances of the dance going on in front of them??...n frankly, apart from the initial couple of acts by Rahul, none of Rahul or Arvind's acts have been so funny...

Maybe an extra mark for something like the X-Factor, but frankly, nothing beyond that for comedy in a dance show, if u ask me...n the judges ought to realize that the contestants here are established tv celebrities...i dont believe that SP n the PH are responsible for the insults that SAjId unloads on the contestants...he is so full of himself, his banner, his films (🤢) , I'm sure it must be difficult for the PH to handle him...what I fail to understand is "why are the contestant ants putting up with this kind of demeaning, disgraceful & insulting behavior by SAjId ??????!!!?!?!!!"

{ps:have u seen JDJ with KJ as judge??...he is probably a million times bigger than SAjId as a director,( n his films ACTUALLY entertain 😆) but I don't think I remember a single moment when he was nasty with the contestants }
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Originally posted by: devica


Loved your reply. Thank you for detailed analysis. I also agree that after certain point dance starts getting monotonous with often repeated themes and same dramebaazi and that's why it is hard to watch a show like NB5 where the dancers are average.

Frankly I have seen this show in bits and pieces .

And about voting. I never waste my hard earned money on these shows. I only voted once in my life during Indian Idol 1 for Abhijeet Sawant. After that one realized that frankly it makes no difference to your life whoever wins. I guess even the 'missed call' voting option nowadays is to encourage to vote. Maybe voting has reduced drastically.



Thank you 😊

@voting... That's so very true. I've never voted for any contestant in any show either. But I know friends who invest their time and money to vote. A friend of mine spent 10K to vote for Hitesh-Rumpa (Perfect bride) These channels are just exploiting their devotion/obsession to their favorite contestants.

@Missed call... I still don't understand how the channel guys profit from missed calls. Since, I don't live in India, I am assuming if there is some kind of ad campaign instead of ringtone, when someone calls them.

@Dances... I watched some videos of other shows when members here started posting about similar concepts done in other shows. It's the same dance, the same concept, and the same non-dancers, but the presentation is elegant, without weird camera angles, or flashing judges' reactions every few seconds. We know that Sajid gives not-so-pleasant expressions, but that doesn't mean we want to watch him instead of dance. It is so distracting.

@Sajid being partial... We don't live in an idealistic world. There is always someone who has secured a place they don't deserve to be. Neelu-Arvind just got lucky, but to their credit, they are hardworking and most lively when they dance. They don't look like they have seen a ghost, or just out of bed (not mentioning the names and avoiding confrontation 😛 😆 )


I know I am nitpicking, but being in a similar field is helping me learn how not to screw up things.. 😛 😆



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