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Posted: 16 years ago
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I read somewhere that when a snake doesnt use his poison for a very long time long time it develops a naag mani on its head(where its poison is). ๐Ÿ˜›
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Posted: 16 years ago
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OMG samira u got me obsessed with this naag mani thing

I found another storY!!

060 - The Jewelled Serpent

Aggrieved by the death of their parents the two brothers took to the life of ascetics and dwelt on the bank of the river Ganga (Anglicised: the Ganges) by building leaf-huts. The elder one had his hut built on the upper side of the Ganga and the younger one on the lower side.

One day, Nagaraj, the king of the serpents came out of the river and crawled around. He was no ordinary snake as he had a wish-fulfilling gem (mani) kept in his throat (kantha): for which he was called Manikantha. Furthermore, he also possessed the power to assume any form. That day, rambling on the bank of the Ganga in the form of a human being he came by the hermitage of the younger brother and exchanged greetings with him. When invited, he entered inside the hut for a conversation. There they exchanged pleasant dialogues and soon became good friends. Since then, Manikantha became a frequent visitor to the hermit. As they were good friends they often cuddled each other before parting.

In course of time, the serpent king shed his human form and appeared before the hermit in his original form of a snake, which terrified the latter. And before parting, he cuddled the hermit in the serpent form in a routine manner.

The fear engendered by the embraces of the serpent made the hermit so frightened that he lost his hunger and became sickly and pale. So, one day, when he visited his elder brother with his emaciated and pale look, the latter enquired into the sudden break down in his health; and having learnt the whole story, he suggested that one could easily get rid of anybody by demanding his dearest possession. As the most precious possession of the snake was his mani, so, if he be approached for the gem, he would himself break away.

Next day, when the serpent was saying good-bye to the ascetic, the latter asked for his mani. The serpent, in turn, then bade adieu without embracing or kissing him. On the following day, too, when the snake appeared before him to enter the hermitage, he again asked for his gem. The serpent then left from outside without entering the hut. On the third occasion, when the hermit saw Nagaraja coming out of the river he shouted at him, "Give me your gem, o friend!"

The serpent then said:

Rich food and drink in plenty I can have

By means of the gem you crave.

You ask for too much;

Which I cannot give.

Nor shall I visit you again.

So long I shall live.

With these words the king of the serpents dived back to the water and never came back to the hermit.

Though scared, the hermit too loved the serpent king; and his absence made him suffer more than the fear and in a few days he looked sickly.

One day, the elder hermit paid a visit to his brother and found him aggrieved and sickly. Having learnt the reason for his grief he comforted him by saying that

To long for one, whose love you prize

When by begging you become hateful in his eyes.

Begging the gem made the serpent sore

That he disappeared to come back no more.

These words of the truth soothed the younger brother and he stopped grieving for the snake friend and concentrated on the ascetic practices.

(Ananda was the younger brother and the elder was the Bodhisatta).

See Manikantha Jataka Jataka Pali No.253.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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if its really true then i wud deffo give it a try or may be go in search of a snake who hasnt vish uglofy for long n developed a naagmani ๐Ÿ˜‰
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Posted: 16 years ago
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yes shariefah its true the snake's unused poison gets stored in its throat or hood and then after a long time it forms a crystal like substance which is called nagmani...in many villages people chase cobras bcz they believe that once the cobra is scared it spits the mani out..there are many conmen fooling people in india selling fake manis.....lol it seems even i'm quite obsessed about this mani thing it's really interesting this is what i found-

Naga Mani is real.I have only seen one (not for sale) in
Sri Lanka. Many snakes form organic "mani" in their heads and these are found
when the snake is unearthed (in case of old, petrified), or killed or died
natural death. But only bona fide "nagamani" comes from cobra hood. They are
bright like glowing stainless-steel and glow strongly in any shadow area. The
myth has that when a King Cobra reaches 100 (human) years of age it becomes
"Itchadhari" (live at will) and these mani are said to come into the mouth of
the naga after forming in it's head. The naga uses it for light at night. Such a
real one is highly regarded in Shastra as good luck. But where to find? How to
prove? And value: PRICELESS.
Sriman, if a cobra was killed for it's mani I would have mixed feelings about
it. It's like Ivory is very auspicious, but ONLY natural death Ivory is
auspicious, and this is impossible to determine. So we avoid ivory. But your
question calls for the answer that YES, there would be no difference in powers.

yet another story

My dad was from a middle class family.So they lived in a moderate accomodation near a graveyard in eastern India. My mom got a glittering stone from the graveyard 35 years back. High up on the tree nearby, an eagle was eating some kind of a snake(it is a usual sight as the tree was an abode of eagles). When she showed it to couple of Indian Jewellers, they troubled her to sell it off to them, there was a bad fight and dad came to her rescue and she could get home. A very old man told her it is the snake stone and asked her to hide it from public. She hid it that day. It is hidden till today. She is afraid to take it out.my dad got into central govt job after that and we all kids could go to best schools. I am a Quality Controller, my sister a lecturer, my brother a physio therapist and the youngest one a bank manager.So we consider the existence of this stone as our lucky charm

there are three types of Nagamani:
1) Ichadhari King Cobra Naga Mani (not petrified, but like an oyster
pearl)-GLOWS;
2) Other type of organic growth inside a snake that is petrified and
become silica;
3) Shaman made glass that is NOT from an animal but is artifical glass
cooked up by
shamans. This covers ALL transparent and glass-like so-called
nagamanis. NOTE: The shaman made artifical glass manis are also
considered to be potent, BUT, they are NOT from a snake.

don't think that i'm some thanthrik baba bcz i know so much about nagmani ๐Ÿ˜†
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Samira and Shanu, thanks for the interesting stories....Like all myths which are based on a figment of truth, the mani is no different....I guess its gem like quality is what made people believe that it is precious and so has special powers๐Ÿค”....

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: samira-d

yes shariefah its true the snake's unused poison gets stored in its throat or hood and then after a long time it forms a crystal like substance which is called nagmani...in many villages people chase cobras bcz they believe that once the cobra is scared it spits the mani out..there are many conmen fooling people in india selling fake manis.....lol it seems even i'm quite obsessed about this mani thing it's really interesting this is what i found-

Naga Mani is real.I have only seen one (not for sale) in
Sri Lanka. Many snakes form organic "mani" in their heads and these are found
when the snake is unearthed (in case of old, petrified), or killed or died
natural death. But only bona fide "nagamani" comes from cobra hood. They are
bright like glowing stainless-steel and glow strongly in any shadow area. The
myth has that when a King Cobra reaches 100 (human) years of age it becomes
"Itchadhari" (live at will) and these mani are said to come into the mouth of
the naga after forming in it's head. The naga uses it for light at night. Such a
real one is highly regarded in Shastra as good luck. But where to find? How to
prove? And value: PRICELESS.
Sriman, if a cobra was killed for it's mani I would have mixed feelings about
it. It's like Ivory is very auspicious, but ONLY natural death Ivory is
auspicious, and this is impossible to determine. So we avoid ivory. But your
question calls for the answer that YES, there would be no difference in powers.

yet another story

My dad was from a middle class family.So they lived in a moderate accomodation near a graveyard in eastern India. My mom got a glittering stone from the graveyard 35 years back. High up on the tree nearby, an eagle was eating some kind of a snake(it is a usual sight as the tree was an abode of eagles). When she showed it to couple of Indian Jewellers, they troubled her to sell it off to them, there was a bad fight and dad came to her rescue and she could get home. A very old man told her it is the snake stone and asked her to hide it from public. She hid it that day. It is hidden till today. She is afraid to take it out.my dad got into central govt job after that and we all kids could go to best schools. I am a Quality Controller, my sister a lecturer, my brother a physio therapist and the youngest one a bank manager.So we consider the existence of this stone as our lucky charm

there are three types of Nagamani:
1) Ichadhari King Cobra Naga Mani (not petrified, but like an oyster
pearl)-GLOWS;
2) Other type of organic growth inside a snake that is petrified and
become silica;
3) Shaman made glass that is NOT from an animal but is artifical glass
cooked up by
shamans. This covers ALL transparent and glass-like so-called
nagamanis. NOTE: The shaman made artifical glass manis are also
considered to be potent, BUT, they are NOT from a snake.

don't think that i'm some thanthrik baba bcz i know so much about nagmani ๐Ÿ˜†

OMG samira...i got scared at the end...i was like.....OMG she seems to know so much about this stuff what if she's some person like Ambalika ๐Ÿ˜†

thanks honey. i have trouble being realistic. i know its all fiction but reading about it this way makes it mysterious and my mind wants to believe its all true

thanks for the stories ๐Ÿ˜ณ

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Posted: 16 years ago
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yeah eventhough we all know that these are myths it's fun reading all these getting to know more about it..thats why we love watching naaginn though the story is not realistic its fun watching and no im no ambalika im just a sadaran manav ๐Ÿ˜†
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: samira-d

yeah eventhough we all know that these are myths it's fun reading all these getting to know more about it..thats why we love watching naaginn though the story is not realistic its fun watching and no im no ambalika im just a sadaran manav ๐Ÿ˜†

hahaha i dont believe that, samira and manav dunya ke sadharan manav...no way

nah....there is nothing like a sadharan manav.....i mean we all have our secrets......we all have our share of mysteries.......

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Posted: 16 years ago
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wow nice topic...i learned a lot...but i belive that we are humans no matter how nice natured we might be or helpful we all want power may it be in any forum as its human nature..we have goods and bads in us..its our decision and our surrounding that make us what we are...so i don't belive any human should ever have the nagmani as in beginning our intentions might be great but when we experience the power things just change and so do we....i belive it's gods and naag so they should keep it..as they have been protecting it for so many centuries...

story:

my dad told me this story..a very old saadu baba came to our house..at that time we didn't have much so we really couldnt give baba anything...but my parents gave baba their share of food..and baba gave them this tabeez he said if u use this tabeez nothing can ever hurt u..u will have the power and ur opponent will be defeated...my dad didnt really think anything of it and kept it in same place...as we just started a business at that time he use to travel a lot...and i dont recall where..but he came across a very poisonous snake and he got very scared as he was very much alone and no one for his help...my mom's right eye was flickering before my dad left for the tour so she gave him the tabeez for just incasement...anyhow when my dad place the tabeez in front of the snake..the snake just left without anythign..my dad was so stunned he couldne belie his eye....now we dont have the tabeez due to obvious reasons...but my dad never forgot that incident..bc of that tabeez my dad i alive today

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: mystic10

wow nice topic...i learned a lot...but i belive that we are humans no matter how nice natured we might be or helpful we all want power may it be in any forum as its human nature..we have goods and bads in us..its our decision and our surrounding that make us what we are...so i don't belive any human should ever have the nagmani as in beginning our intentions might be great but when we experience the power things just change and so do we....i belive it's gods and naag so they should keep it..as they have been protecting it for so many centuries...

story:

my dad told me this story..a very old saadu baba came to our house..at that time we didn't have much so we really couldnt give baba anything...but my parents gave baba their share of food..and baba gave them this tabeez he said if u use this tabeez nothing can ever hurt u..u will have the power and ur opponent will be defeated...my dad didnt really think anything of it and kept it in same place...as we just started a business at that time he use to travel a lot...and i dont recall where..but he came across a very poisonous snake and he got very scared as he was very much alone and no one for his help...my mom's right eye was flickering before my dad left for the tour so she gave him the tabeez for just incasement...anyhow when my dad place the tabeez in front of the snake..the snake just left without anythign..my dad was so stunned he couldne belie his eye....now we dont have the tabeez due to obvious reasons...but my dad never forgot that incident..bc of that tabeez my dad i alive today

a little tid bit



cool i luv reading bout these sort of thing i also like reading about ghosts if they are real๐Ÿ˜† i wnat 2 know why u dont have the tabeez anymore..so interesting๐Ÿ˜›
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