My thoughts on Naagin franchise

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hi everyone,
My name is Mandy and I might or might not have commented on any posts in this forum πŸ˜• Sorry am confused πŸ˜† I wanted to make this post from a long time but then I felt maybe it will join the long list of many posts which didn't interest anybody. And then again I thought what the heck, I might as well get it out of the way. Initially I wanted this post to be my thoughts on just season 2 but then I also wanted to explore some of the facets of season 1. A gentle disclaimer: if long posts seem boring and a waste of time, you might want to skip this 😳 or if you are interested please do share your thoughts post reading it.

I remember the first promo that went on air for Naagin where a mysterious woman in red lehenga walks around a bunglaow with a bunch of red roses that end up catching fire. It looked promising and this was Ekta's second franchise on the supernatural genre (first one being Pyaar Kii Yeh Ek Kahaani that was one of my all time fav shows) and I wanted to give it a try. Ekta also had a track record of coming up with cliched concepts given her so called saas bahu and romantic shows that never had anything new to offer after a couple of years (she did make wonderful shows at the start of her career though I admit). But PKYEK brought in a wave of fresh air and I thought Naagin would follow suit *sighs* If Only

Season One:

A brilliant star cast, impressive sets, decent background score and a sexy, sultry kali nagin aka Shesha - this is what season one boasted of. And you also had a seasoned veteran from the industry - Sudha ma'am and Mouni, who was basking in the glory of her DKDM days and Naagin only catapulted her to a stardom that a select few in the industry can rejoice over. Not to mention, Rithik-Shivanya chemistry. But in terms of story what did the show have to offer the audience? Nothing new. It was heavily inspired by the 1976 Reena Roy starrer Nagin and the much more recent Sayantani Ghosh show Naaginn. There was absolutely nothing innovative about the show. Even in that show a shape shifting snake seeks out to avenge the murder of her parents for a naagmani and gets married into the household that was responsible for her parents death. And to add to the similarity list, we also have the evil scheming mother in law who was feigning innocence from the start. So what exactly was new here? πŸ˜•

For that matter even Yamini's character was a rip off of Kahin Kissi Roz and funnily enough that character was enacted by Sudhaji herself. Sudhaji played a conniving mother who raised her stepson without letting him realise he was never her own child not out of love but for her greed to usurp his wealth when the right moment came. It's a pity Sudhaji agrees to portray such regressive characters time and again.

Shesha was a breath of fresh air but sadly her character was butchered beyond repair. Not because she turned negative but she turned negative for all possible insanely stupid reasons. She never craved love and all she wanted was power. The few times she got to be near Rithik she had assumed Shivanya's form. So Rithik had showered that love on his wife but yet Shesha, a naagin who found human emotions stupid found herself succumbing to one. And it had to be her sister's husband whom she had mocked initially for being a chipku 🀣 She had joined hands with Shivanya to avenge the death of her maasi who had looked after her like a mother but she forgot that and gave up her honor lusting after her sister's husband? πŸ˜• Shesha always aspired for power and knowing that a naagin will lose all her powers after consummating with a human she made numerous attempts to seduce not just her brother in law but also a son in law 😲 (considering Shivangi was her niece Rocky was a son in law figure to her πŸ˜†) And Ekta tries to compare her shoddy shows with GOT πŸ˜† Really now? 🀣 In the end she joined hands with Yamini, first in the hopes of getting Rithik and then Rocky πŸ₯±

Rithik was just a prop in the show and his character never really justified that of a lead considering he was just an eye candy in the show. And of course the numerous shape shifting animals which we deem harmless but are more powerful than a snake to thwart one πŸ˜† I still can't understand how a bee can be more powerful than a snake or a peacock? And we also have a bull to add to the long list 🀣 When the makers realised they have run out of adversaries they came up with Mahishmati courtesy Bahubali πŸ˜†

I can still understand why Naagin was a TRP game changer but fail to realise what did Naagin 2 have to offer to remain the TRP chart ruler? πŸ˜•

Season Two:

Moving on to S2, the storyline didn't change much. It cascaded down to Shivangi, Shivanya's half human daughter who fell in love with Rocky and the saga continues with Shivanya's death. Shivanya's parents are now replaced by Shivanya herself and Shivanya with Shivangi. Only difference being Shivangi assumed her lover to be her culprit and set out to take revenge on him as well.

The biggest let down of S2 for me was KVB who is one of my fav TV actors. He was totally wasted in this show and his characterisation here is way worse than Rithik's I wish his character had some depth but sadly there was none. I understand he wanted to experiment with different types of characters and break out of the grey shaded hero image but Naagin? Like seriously? KVB and Mouni would have made a fantastic pair but sadly makers didn't bother to put an effort.

You have a plethora of supernatural elements at play here and at one point, despite the mediocrity I wanted to give S2 a chance. But everytime I tried watching it, the meaningless tracks used to put me off. Starting with Shivanya's death who had been a mere mortal at that time. How can anyone justify Shivanya taking Shivangi's place even though she was badly stabbed and also her death by impersonating her? OK so her daughter looks exactly like her. Was this one similarity enough to fool all her enemies? She even managed to lock Shivnagi and change into clothes and then get thrown off the cliff by her own sister. Were the makers mocking their own intelligence or ours?

Why would Nidhi ever want to be a mystery killer amidst the crazy supernatural gang? πŸ˜† The mystery killer clearly resembled a guy and Nidhi who is tiny and petite was that same killer? 😲 And the villain needs to be equally powerful else there is no fun but in Naagin 2 majority of them seemed lame right from Yamini to Nidhi. Even Shesha was reduced to a blubbering mess always lusting after Rocky without caring a damn about the consequences. Saari duniya jaaye bhaad mein, mera matlab sirf Rocky se hai πŸ˜†

Also how did Shesha end up becoming a 118 year old (or is 108) naagin? 🀣 She was a young girl herself when Shivanya's parents were killed and more or less her age. Shivanya must have been 25 herself when she married Rithik and she must not be older than 50 or 52 max when she died. Then how did Shesha age so drastically? 🀣

Like in S1 we had Rudra who came in as a breath of fresh air in S2. He had a strong presence to an extent it overshadowed the male lead itself. And whenever I visited the forum, I could sense that almost everyone here wanted Shivangi to choose Rudra, even though the story never had a scope for that to happen since Shivangi had always loved Rocky from the start and Rocky himself was a nice guy who loved her more than anything else. It would have been illogical to show DraShiv happening however good the two looked together. Rudra was instrumental in her revenge and I am really glad the makers didn't butcher his character like Shesha's by turning him negative for Shivangi. I suppose unrequited love has its own beauty and I am happy that's how DraShiv concluded.

I have lost count of the number of times I quit S2, started watching in between when I found one of the tracks interesting and lost interest again 🀣

And why did S2 have to be a continuation of S1? I know Mouni, Sudhaji and Ada have done a fabulous job in S1 but why not give others a chance? Plus a new storyline too? Why could not the makers take the risk? For all we know, the new starcast would probably have been better than S1. Or are we so used to seeing such regressive storylines that we don't want to give new concepts a chance and that's why even the makers have become lazy enough to not think of something fresh but serve the same stale concept on the same platter? The concept of shape shifting is intriguing but why not come up with interesting concepts instead? Why the same old wine in a new packaging? We have tons of talented writers who come up with innovative concepts on fanfic in IF itself and I am sure the writers hired for the shows are no less talented. But why do they give us such lame shows? Or is the TRP responsible for it? I knew a writer who has written wonderful stories on fanfic but the same writer's work for TV is beyond lame. I am certain it's not the writer's fault. I do not wish to name the writer or the show but all I want to say is why are we, as an audience satisfied with mediocre stuff? Why don't we push the writers to rack their brains harder and come up with interesting storylines that will be remembered in a long time to come?

When speculations are rife about S3, audience don't wish to see anyone else besides Mouni, Ada and Sudhaji. If you don't want to see anyone else beside the old cast, then you should also not be cribbing about the shoddy storylines. Unless we desire to see new things on television, the pattern will continue to exist. Its down to us to decide. Do we wish to see something new? Or the same old ghisa pita remixed tracks? Would you want the protagonist to be Mouni who would again be Mouni's daughter in the show and the same saga repeating with the enemies being resurrected from the dead for the 100th time or an entirely new set of characters with a new story?

Please share your views and thank you for reading it 😊 (if you took the trouble of reading it that is πŸ˜†)

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Well coming to innovation I think ekta's brahmarakhshas even though I don't really watch it is probably good enough to be considered innovative for her level at least it was better than the crap called kavach she introduced. Coming to pkyek wasn't that also a copy of twilight and the vampire diaries?? If that can be a copy then naagin can also be a copy, I guess the right term would be a remake here just like ekta's next venture chandrakanta which will replace naagin 2.
Now coming to season 3 even I wish they change the cast! I don't see the point of coming back with a new season if they plan to repeat the cast. What I mean is we have already seen how season 2 went on right? A total repeat of season 1. If its going to be the same story then just change the damn cast, how many times do we have to see mouni and adaa play the same thing over and over again? Why should we watch it in the first place when we can just see the same thing in season 1. If they plan to retain the cast then they should have changed the story and revenge plot! Why avenge your parents all the time? There can be many reason for revenge, like death of a sibling, death in previous life or anything. If they want to come up with degraded installment of the franchise then they better not make season 3 at all. I dont think they'll profit much out of it.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I agree with you, but many franchises in the west follows same actors playing recurring characters through all the seasons. However, in india, New season matlab new characters with new actors.
I think ekta should have either made naagin a daily soap else could continue with rivanya.
Mouni definately played shivanya better.
Honestly, I think indians misunderstood the seasons concept.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rein123

Well coming to innovation I think ekta's brahmarakhshas even though I don't really watch it is probably good enough to be considered innovative for her level at least it was better than the crap called kavach she introduced. Coming to pkyek wasn't that also a copy of twilight and the vampire diaries?? If that can be a copy then naagin can also be a copy, I guess the right term would be a remake here just like ekta's next venture chandrakanta which will replace naagin 2.

Now coming to season 3 even I wish they change the cast! I don't see the point of coming back with a new season if they plan to repeat the cast. What I mean is we have already seen how season 2 went on right? A total repeat of season 1. If its going to be the same story then just change the damn cast, how many times do we have to see mouni and adaa play the same thing over and over again? Why should we watch it in the first place when we can just see the same thing in season 1. If they plan to retain the cast then they should have changed the story and revenge plot! Why avenge your parents all the time? There can be many reason for revenge, like death of a sibling, death in previous life or anything. If they want to come up with degraded installment of the franchise then they better not make season 3 at all. I dont think they'll profit much out of it.

Brahmarakshas was a lame remake of jaani dushman.
But it has a good lead pair.
But ekta casted a wrong guy for naagin 2.
Then she and her creatives realised they have got the wrong guy, so kingshuk mahajan was brought in. But unfortunately, he got way much popularity than kvb
And talking about chandrakanta, it looks like a sure disaster.
Ekta messed up mahabharat, jodha akbar and no one cares for chandra nandini cause fiction ka bhi limit hota hai.
And with no rajat tokas and a talented but largely unpopular cast to boot, I am not really betting upon this serial.
Can't tv producers make a fictional period drama that they have to remake old classics?

Edited by Luna99 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I'm not read completely Wat everything this post contains 😊 and agree with few of your views πŸ˜› s1 is way simple look similar to nagin wadon ki agnipariksha ⭐️ having brilliant star cast. and hero connected very well with the story so it passed n pleased every one required choice from Nagin franchise ⭐️ sadly Sesha character butcherd for very awkward reasons in it. instead they choose her turn as villain only to get more powers n rule the world ⭐️ is way convincing according to her character but EK made it sick n continue her even in s2 as same one who wants, craves again human love in inappropriate relation πŸ˜† ..

and kv doesn't suited as a main character too here forget as lead...he just a crucial character which not shaped properly . it's my opinion πŸ˜‰ ...

and s2 is way innovative having all sorts of logical blunders
🀣 .many areas. many situations this season forgets logic very well πŸ˜† and it's not similar to wat previous seasons offered πŸ˜› it's clear cut nag -nagin story having human connection to it πŸ‘ that's why many members routing here for Rudra -shivangi ⭐️ .and how come continuation of particular season show case the same type saga changing only humans πŸ˜† .by the end of this season will surely thrill viewrs that not every nagin series have human -nagin forbidden relation. n they not only connect as couple and everything can have some mystery involved in it. .

this are my views regarding this season alone 😳 the remaining mentioned stories I am not aware so not read n not much need to comment on it.

BTW good post ⭐️
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rein123

Well coming to innovation I think ekta's brahmarakhshas even though I don't really watch it is probably good enough to be considered innovative for her level at least it was better than the crap called kavach she introduced. Coming to pkyek wasn't that also a copy of twilight and the vampire diaries?? If that can be a copy then naagin can also be a copy, I guess the right term would be a remake here just like ekta's next venture chandrakanta which will replace naagin 2.

Now coming to season 3 even I wish they change the cast! I don't see the point of coming back with a new season if they plan to repeat the cast. What I mean is we have already seen how season 2 went on right? A total repeat of season 1. If its going to be the same story then just change the damn cast, how many times do we have to see mouni and adaa play the same thing over and over again? Why should we watch it in the first place when we can just see the same thing in season 1. If they plan to retain the cast then they should have changed the story and revenge plot! Why avenge your parents all the time? There can be many reason for revenge, like death of a sibling, death in previous life or anything. If they want to come up with degraded installment of the franchise then they better not make season 3 at all. I dont think they'll profit much out of it.


About innovation it is hard to say any story is completely original. All writers are inspired by other stories or real life instances 😳 About BR I agree it was a nice show but towards the middle the show was ruined. The problem with all of EK's shows is that the characterization is horribly inconsistent. Take BR for instance. The reason for BR's existance was to avenge his death but even after his culprit meant their end he didn find his salvation. Instead he became power hungry which totally contradicted the concept. Kavach was bleh 🀒 The first promo was sorta promising even though the story was cliched but after Mehek quit the show, it went downhill 🀒

PKYEK was certainly not original but at least EK had the decency to buy the copyright but in case of Naagin there was no mention of the show and it was a clear copy of that show. I wont complain much about S1 for despite all its flaws it was still engaging. But S2 was a repeat of S1 with the same set of characters and the same actress playing the female lead. PKYEK was first of its kind on Indian TV. I don't really have too much of an issue with S1 but S2 was a disaster. Coming to Chandrakanta I don't see the point. When Life OK had already announced the show EK could have come up with another story rather than getting into competition. Chandrakanta on Life OK has already taken a lead by going on air first and audience is appreciating it even. Then why would they bother watching another version of the same show?

Coming to revenge part I totally agree with you there. Why should one always avenge the death of parents? Can't it be another kind of loss? There is no point in bringing the same cast and the same Naagin universe back. But having said that I wont be surprised if that turns out to be No 1 again πŸ˜†
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Luna99

I agree with you, but many franchises in the west follows same actors playing recurring characters through all the seasons. However, in india, New season matlab new characters with new actors.

I think ekta should have either made naagin a daily soap else could continue with rivanya.
Mouni definately played shivanya better.
Honestly, I think indians misunderstood the seasons concept.


Coming to the west, yes but every season has a finite set of episodes and its a continuation of the storyline and not a new story. In India it is not exactly new characters but the same actor reprising the role of a daughter/son or a supposedly dead character coming back to life for ridiculous reasons 🀣 Season 1 had got a closure with a happy ending for RiVanya and it should have ended at that. The story of the show was Shivanya's revenge which was accomplished but in the end they gave a twist by turning Shesha negative and making her join hands with Avantika.

I don't blame the audience here. What else should they assume? Mouni had her run with Shivanya and it should have ended at that. They could have brought in a new story with new villains.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Luna99

Brahmarakshas was a lame remake of jaani dushman.
But it has a good lead pair.
But ekta casted a wrong guy for naagin 2.
Then she and her creatives realised they have got the wrong guy, so kingshuk mahajan was brought in. But unfortunately, he got way much popularity than kvb
And talking about chandrakanta, it looks like a sure disaster.
Ekta messed up mahabharat, jodha akbar and no one cares for chandra nandini cause fiction ka bhi limit hota can.
And with no rajat tokas and a talented but largely unpopular cast to boot, I am not really betting upon this serial.
Can't tv producers make a fictional period drama that they have to remake old classics?


BR was good initially and coming to male lead for Naagin S2 KVB is surely not a bad actor but he is not the right fit and Rocky as a character was not impactful. If Kinshuk was meant to be the lead then they could have made Rocky the bad guy and united Shivanya with Rudra and I am sure the audience would have been happy too. Chandrakanta may or may not be good but she could have come up with a different show. This way audience would have got something new. EK's historicals are ridiculous to say the least πŸ˜†
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: vinnas

I'm not read completely Wat everything this post contains 😊 and agree with few of your views πŸ˜› s1 is way simple look similar to nagin wadon ki agnipariksha ⭐️ having brilliant star cast. and hero connected very well with the story so it passed n pleased every one required choice from Nagin franchise ⭐️ sadly Sesha character butcherd for very awkward reasons in it. instead they choose her turn as villain only to get more powers n rule the world ⭐️ is way convincing according to her character but EK made it sick n continue her even in s2 as same one who wants, craves again human love in inappropriate relation πŸ˜† ..

and kv doesn't suited as a main character too here forget as lead...he just a crucial character which not shaped properly . it's my opinion πŸ˜‰ ...

and s2 is way innovative having all sorts of logical blunders
🀣 .many areas. many situations this season forgets logic very well πŸ˜† and it's not similar to wat previous seasons offered πŸ˜› it's clear cut nag -nagin story having human connection to it πŸ‘ that's why many members routing here for Rudra -shivangi ⭐️ .and how come continuation of particular season show case the same type saga changing only humans πŸ˜† .by the end of this season will surely thrill viewrs that not every nagin series have human -nagin forbidden relation. n they not only connect as couple and everything can have some mystery involved in it. .

this are my views regarding this season alone 😳 the remaining mentioned stories I am not aware so not read n not much need to comment on it.

BTW good post ⭐️


Thanks for reading the post 😊 S1 was still interesting despite it being a copy of the show that aired few years ago. Shesha's character became negative for all the wrong reasons. I agree with your views on Shesha.

KVB is a fab actor but he is good at portraying grey shaded intense character not easy peesy romantic characters.

The show was never about Rudra Shivangi as Rudra was meant to be Shivangi's partner in crime and not her lover. It would have been interesting if Rocky's character had not been there at all and instead it was just focused on Shivangi's mission to protect the nagmani. Rudra could have been the male lead. In the promo for S2 after S1 had just ended they show Shivanya telling Shivangi that she needs to protect nagmani but when S2 went on air they showed Shivanya praying to God to give her daughter a normal human life πŸ˜†
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: BeyondHorizon



Thanks for reading the post😊S1 was still interesting despite it being a copy of the show that aired few years ago. Shesha's character became negative for all the wrong reasons. I agree with your views on Shesha.

KVB is a fab actor but he is good at portraying grey shaded intense character not easy peesy romantic characters.

The show was never about Rudra Shivangi as Rudra was meant to be Shivangi's partner in crime and not her lover. It would have been interesting if Rocky's character had not been there at all and instead it was just focused on Shivangi's mission to protect the nagmani. Rudra could have been the male lead. In the promo for S2 after S1 had just ended they show Shivanya telling Shivangi that she needs to protect nagmani but when S2 went on air they showed Shivanya praying to God to give her daughter a normal human lifeπŸ˜†

this show is about for rudra shivangi 😳only is strictly in my view 😳 and for that need some time n twists to believe 😳 ..

yes sesha character is beyond n no repair zoneπŸ˜† ..

about kv I not seen his previous works n by his looks n performance he suits better for grey shaded roles ⭐️ this role totally unfit for him πŸ˜› ..

yup that starting promos illustrated the journey of series πŸ‘ s1 is clear human-nagin love n revenge saga -rivanya 😳 where s2 is who can save NM n fight with all evils whom she bringing for this journey how she can save πŸ‘ it's all for Rudra ⭐️ .
Drashiv..

this are my views only πŸ˜ƒ no need to agree or disagree πŸ˜›
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