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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rein123

Shivanya was not that different from shivaangi either! Only differences were that when it came to romance shivanya was reasonable unlike shivangi who fell for a stranger instantly in just three days and married him for revenge too on short notice. Shivaangi unlike shivanya is more tactful, shrewd and independent in the revenge plot unlike Shivanya. I feel mouni has justified both the roles equally well! In your own words why blame mouni if her character had a few minor glitches which again were reasonable from her POV too?? Moreover shivaangi is the main character of the show which would end the minute she were to die unlike Rocky or any other male lead! If you don't like her then this show may not really be your thing.

Shivangi had personality similar to her parents in the early parts of the show. We could feel she is the daughter of both Shivanya and ritik .
Then after her parents' death , She became hell bent on destroying her enemies. She didn't even spare her hubby!!
Ok, I could feel her pain. But, I didn't know from a happy -to-lucky girl , She went to become a girl who perfectly make plans to take down her enemies.
Okay , even then she looked stupid , but it wasn't intentional.
Writers couldn't show her growth from a sweet girl to a cold blooded determined killing machine properly.
It was all so sudden and all so stupid .
Also I think mouni can't show the inherent aggressions of a revengeful woman very nicely .
Now , last season , Shivanya was shown as an emotional person who was taking her parents' revenge. Now I never felt an emotional connect to her revenge. It looked like she was doing that just coz that's her duty.I was more interested in the revenge track and must say, without any reason, sesha looked thousand times more motivated .
Shivanya definitely lacked the shades of Gray but made it up with emotions about being torn between ritik and revenge and her parents' death. Not to mention the love track made up for the revenge track.
Now, in S2 , nor the revenge track is good neither the romance is making up for it.
Atleast I could feel shivanya's emotions . But as shivangi, mouni has failed to justify her character's determination to take revenge.
Have you seen revenge?
Watch it and see the difference.
Now , Shivanya as a character was WEAK.
But it went with the story
But , mouni fails to have emotions of a person who witnessed her mother's death first hand and the aggressions of a girl taking revenge . She even fails at the romance. But we've seen her romancing , so I give her a leeway.
I think you people also must see naagin waadon ki agnipariksha on zee tv. Now, that show was more geared towards the revenge track and the husband was only an obstacle in the lead's path while completing her mission. While the ekta kapoor show atleast in S1, more focused on the forbidden affair between a human and a naagin.
That's why mouni succeeded as an actress in S1.
But in S2 , the show gave initially the revenge track more importance in order to differentiate the content from the previous season.
But sadly,mouni lacked the required aggression and couldn't show her determination properly. As far as I remember , even the hero of the zee tv naagin was a stupid guy. But he fit his part and her chemistry with sayantani ghosh was pretty nice so people forgave that. Also , the show focused on amrita (lead naagin) from the very beginning so people knew she will be the one on focus all the time. Plus , no comparison , but sayantani ghosh's emotional capability is far superior to mouni . Not to mention her capability to express the mental strength required for her character and her aggression. We could really feel her rage towards the family who destroyed her childhood.
Also, her feelings about being torn between her love and her duty really touched atleast my heart. Acting is subjective , but I think sayantani ghosh is a much more capable actress than mouni , be in ability to emote, show aggression and show shades of Gray.
And complaining about rocky, nearly all naagin films and shows have much bigger importance to the snake girl rather than the husband.
I think ritik was the 1st guy who played so big a role in a naagin show.
And now , the people who think that the show couldn't provide a good male lead, they're wrong. Rocky's stupid as hell and kvb is utter boring, but the thing where the makers went wrong is actually mouni/shivangi.
Naagin S1, compared to all previous shows of the same type,
was actually more of an ensemble type show than the earlier versions which always focused on the lead naagin from the start to end. It started with sesha in ritik's dream and then shivanya was introduced. Well, shivanya was always specified as the lead protagonist , but she never got an opportunity prove the same. In her 1st part of the season, sesha who was actually more determined than her, helped her; when sesha turned negative, ritik stepped in.
But S2 was all shivangi's khel. But mouni couldn't justify her character and couldn't pull the show on the long run.
That's why people go crazy on listening to even a slight possibility of arjun's return to the show. Even I've met a few hard-core haters of this show and all of them said they like arjun far better than anyone in this show.
Actually ritik played a much integral role to the plot than the other heroes of naagin films and shows so. So when the new hero's role was reduced to the standard amount, people go mad and they've to introduce a stupid rocky's secret that will probably won't make any sense after the revelation
Now, even if the romance plot would've been a flop, if mouni could pull of the revenge track , the show wouldn't have to introduce rudra.
From the day he entered , rudra looked like he was added as a poor alternative to the fact that rocky was an overall failure and mouni needs external help to pull of the role of a revengeful girl.
And shivangi's real aggression, I mean whatever mouni could pull of , came after rudra was introduced into the show.
So, I can say , mouni has played shivanya to the core, but can't say the same for her portrayal of shivangi.
Ps: personal opinion.

Edited by Luna99 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#82
@Luna agree . and yes that zee TV naagin was really good. I loved that one.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: Luna99

Shivangi had personality similar to her parents in the early parts of the show. We could feel she is the daughter of both Shivanya and ritik .
Then after her parents' death , She became hell bent on destroying her enemies. She didn't even spare her hubby!!
Ok, I could feel her pain. But, I didn't know from a happy -to-lucky girl , She went to become a girl who perfectly make plans to take down her enemies.
Okay , even then she looked stupid , but it wasn't intentional.
Writers couldn't show her growth from a sweet girl to a cold blooded determined killing machine properly.
It was all so sudden and all so stupid .
Also I think mouni can't show the inherent aggressions of a revengeful woman very nicely .
Now , last season , Shivanya was shown as an emotional person who was taking her parents' revenge. Now I never felt an emotional connect to her revenge. It looked like she was doing that just coz that's her duty.I was more interested in the revenge track and must say, without any reason, sesha looked thousand times more motivated .
Shivanya definitely lacked the shades of Gray but made it up with emotions about being torn between ritik and revenge and her parents' death. Not to mention the love track made up for the revenge track.
Now, in S2 , nor the revenge track is good neither the romance is making up for it.
Atleast I could feel shivanya's emotions . But as shivangi, mouni has failed to justify her character's determination to take revenge.
Have you seen revenge?
Watch it and see the difference.
Now , Shivanya as a character was WEAK.
But it went with the story
But , mouni fails to have emotions of a person who witnessed her mother's death first hand and the aggressions of a girl taking revenge . She even fails at the romance. But we've seen her romancing , so I give her a leeway.
I think you people also must see naagin waadon ki agnipariksha on zee tv. Now, that show was more geared towards the revenge track and the husband was only an obstacle in the lead's path while completing her mission. While the ekta kapoor show atleast in S1, more focused on the forbidden affair between a human and a naagin.
That's why mouni succeeded as an actress in S1.
But in S2 , the show gave initially the revenge track more importance in order to differentiate the content from the previous season.
But sadly,mouni lacked the required aggression and couldn't show her determination properly. As far as I remember , even the hero of the zee tv naagin was a stupid guy. But he fit his part and her chemistry with sayantani ghosh was pretty nice so people forgave that. Also , the show focused on amrita (lead naagin) from the very beginning so people knew she will be the one on focus all the time. Plus , no comparison , but sayantani ghosh's emotional capability is far superior to mouni . Not to mention her capability to express the mental strength required for her character and her aggression. We could really feel her rage towards the family who destroyed her childhood.
Also, her feelings about being torn between her love and her duty really touched atleast my heart. Acting is subjective , but I think sayantani ghosh is a much more capable actress than mouni , be in ability to emote, show aggression and show shades of Gray.
And complaining about rocky, nearly all naagin films and shows have much bigger importance to the snake girl rather than the husband.
I think ritik was the 1st guy who played so big a role in a naagin show.
And now , the people who think that the show couldn't provide a good male lead, they're wrong. Rocky's stupid as hell and kvb is utter boring, but the thing where the makers went wrong is actually mouni/shivangi.
Naagin S1, compared to all previous shows of the same type,
was actually more of an ensemble type show than the earlier versions which always focused on the lead naagin from the start to end. It started with sesha in ritik's dream and then shivanya was introduced. Well, shivanya was always specified as the lead protagonist , but she never got an opportunity prove the same. In her 1st part of the season, sesha who was actually more determined than her, helped her; when sesha turned negative, ritik stepped in.
But S2 was all shivangi's khel. But mouni couldn't justify her character and couldn't pull the show on the long run.
That's why people go crazy on listening to even a slight possibility of arjun's return to the show. Even I've met a few hard-core haters of this show and all of them said they like arjun far better than anyone in this show.
Actually ritik played a much integral role to the plot than the other heroes of naagin films and shows so. So when the new hero's role was reduced to the standard amount, people go mad and they've to introduce a stupid rocky's secret that will probably won't make any sense after the revelation
Now, even if the romance plot would've been a flop, if mouni could pull of the revenge track , the show wouldn't have to introduce rudra.
From the day he entered , rudra looked like he was added as a poor alternative to the fact that rocky was an overall failure and mouni needs external help to pull of the role of a revengeful girl.
And shivangi's real aggression, I mean whatever mouni could pull of , came after rudra was introduced into the show.
So, I can say , mouni has played shivanya to the core, but can't say the same for her portrayal of shivangi.
Ps: personal opinion.

Now I won't read your whole post regarding mouni but I disagree over her lacking the aggression of the vengeful woman! Throughout the series I couldnt help but pay attention to her vengeful intent! Now if you are going to talk about aggression you need to keep in mind that no sane person will be thinking about revenge 24x7 or even dwelling or fuming over the same! To get vengeance patience and tact must be utilised. Shivangi lacks patience while shivanya lacked the tact as shivaangi was in a hurry to consummate with her SP while Shivanya would blindly trust anyone that appeared to be her well wisher but she had the patience that allowed her to overcome that as well unlike Shesha who would also seemed to be in a rush back then. Speaking of emotional connect I don't feel emotionally connected to her either, but its not just her the same goes for everyone in the show or any character driven by revenge! I can only root for them not connect to their need for revenge, but if its about her killing them to safeguard the naag mani and retrieving it then I can understand her killing spree.
About Rithik, rather than just an integral part of the show he was more like the main character who got caught in the revenge drama between yamini's greed and shivanya's revenge. But yes the show was still about him for the same reason and how he dealt with the storm that entered his life. Why do you think even the synopsis earlier was like "Rithik raheja the son of a wealthy business tycoon is a workaholic guy who has no time or interest in love, however his mother yamini is hell bent on getting him married before his 25th birthday as he his natal astrological chart is affected by something called kaal sarp dosh according to which he will die if he doesn't get married to a girl with a certain natal chart before turning 25" Even the premier promos of naagin season 1 mostly featured and promoted Arjun as Rithik and his connection to the snakes making him seem like the main character and the naagin as someone who is after his life. So yes replacing Arjun and retaining mouni and adaa was infuriating in a way. You know what I think is funny I feel the show getting extended beyond seven months was just an excuse for chandrakanta's production and launch delays so to buy the time they decided to extend naagin beyond seven months even though its trps were less then the average of season 1with some random secret which they want to reveal after all the main villains died 🤣. But then for the sake of this chandrakanta they introduced a secret and some new villains and decided to revive yamini or spare her once again for the third time.
Edited by Rein123 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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hii Luna 😃 here I disagree with your views on mouni 😊 she is the steller performer in case of furious n ferocious attire n many more 😛 she just pulls the character Wat she got to the T 👏 I may get bored about a few scenes due to the other cast n weakness of plot but mouni is extraordinary 👏 after watching her stunts in DKDM that two scenes just wow. the amount of energy she plays in aggression n ferocious form just brilliant one can not make that impact 👏 ..

and u mentioned about nagin Zee TV which sayanthini done that series is my most favourite nagin series on TV 👏 till now not only for Sayanthini 😳 each n every thing in it just balanced ⭐️ why amrutha is balanced one?? just observe how her nagin journey --she lost her parents n went for revenge in child wood but is she lost her child hood?? no her aunt guided her later a family adopted her after the pair killed by tantrik again amrutha not alone 😉 she have 2 family members from that adopted family n her nag friend kanishq with her to support n all of them stayed in village which have full of normal n human family environment n she gaining powers as well. she learned n trained herself to be balance ⭐️ how such traits we expect from either shivanya n shivangi 😆 whose situations n circumstances entirely different 😉 ..

in case of shivangi why she lack such lost feelings for her mom is entirely justified ⭐️ she not only lost her mom n everybody at one go 😲 that she come to know it's all about revenge only 😲 Wat if they all mass murdered in a accident only shivu alive 😲 Wat we expect from her 😲 is she day and night mourning n crying n aggressive for mom ⭐️ her feelings are very natural to me just her first sight love only not matching at all 😆 ..her ferocious n aggression when revenge taking time is just superb 😛 .like very much shivangi n mostly Mouni who excels the role to its highest best 👏 ..

if we take the character n actor alone we can't satisfy 😛 need to see the adjoining things between them 😃 ..

about shivanya Mouni just made a great image by her Nagin role transformation 👏 and her story and background entirely different comparing above two ⭐️ she created versatility successfully from both mom n daughter roles but the surrounding things too should cooperate with her to made her special 😳 may be that's why feeling difference is a bit taking time 😆 ..

it's entirely my pov 😛 and I respect your pov too ⭐️ ..
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Posted: 7 years ago
#85
haha this poll results itself proves that Shivangi is the LAMEST character in the entire show 😛...no matter what big essay u write to prove otherwise, cant change the fact 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I think I mean to say that mouni is not that impactful as shivangi.
Now, if you are to talk about shivanya, well , no one can top that.
Mouni's a good actress, I just love how much difference she created between mom and daughter. But I think they should have given another actress to play lead this season. Now, that's too risky for the channel to replace her but I think they should've done that.
I just feel she doesn't really play shivangi with that much passion she played shivanya in.
Anyways, I would love to live in that alternate universe where there is Naagin 2.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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These polls say nothing as this forum doesnt hav many active members, there r manyyy more viewers offcourse which obviously r not at the forum n they support someone too.. mayb shivangi has more lovers, who knows:D
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Posted: 7 years ago
#88
Madly loving add a khan
As well as drashiv but... her 1 percent extra
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Luna99

I think I mean to say that mouni is not that impactful as shivangi.

Now, if you are to talk about shivanya, well , no one can top that.
Mouni's a good actress, I just love how much difference she created between mom and daughter. But I think they should have given another actress to play lead this season. Now, that's too risky for the channel to replace her but I think they should've done that.
I just feel she doesn't really play shivangi with that much passion she played shivanya in.
Anyways, I would love to live in that alternate universe where there is Naagin 2.

OK now that's your opinion and I'll respect it! Me on the other hand don't really care of she is impactful as shivaangi or not because her vengeful shivaangi is like a copy of a vengeful shivanya so to me its like I'm watching the same character so I honestly don't care about that, if EK isn't bothered whether her shivaangi isn't that impactful but still decides to cast her as the main lead in season 3 then why should I care.
Edited by Rein123 - 7 years ago
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