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slippery_chilka

@slippery_chilka

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Posted: 7 years ago

#71

Sheesh..haven't we hashed over Rocky and his invisible backstory enough? I am so sick and tired of repeating the same thing over and over again. Then they say you write the same thing, write something new. I'll give you an example. Behadh is a finit show. There Maya's root for her obsession was build up since day 1. Not just hers but even Arjun's backstory and Saanjh's. Why? Because they are the leads and their backstory is important to the story. That's how finite shows and backstories work. No finite show plans on coming up and surprising the audience with a backstory suddenly. It's not a game of surprise. That's not how stories work. Mysteries are build up from the start and not from in between. You are free to wait for Rocky's invisible backstory but please don't stop us from judging him for his character on a mere expectation. We gave 2 months for it and it didnot come. That's more than enough time for being patient.

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kasaf

@kasaf

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Posted: 7 years ago

#72

Originally posted by: slippery_chilka
Sheesh..haven't we hashed over Rocky and his invisible backstory enough? I am so sick and tired of repeating the same thing over and over again. Then they say you write the same thing, write something new. I'll give you an example. Behadh is a finit show. There Maya's root for her obsession was build up since day 1. Not just hers but even Arjun's backstory and Saanjh's. Why? Because they are the leads and their backstory is important to the story. That's how finite shows and backstories work. No finite show plans on coming up and surprising the audience with a backstory suddenly. It's not a game of surprise. That's not how stories work. Mysteries are build up from the start and not from in between. You are free to wait for Rocky's invisible backstory but please don't stop us from judging him for his character on a mere expectation. We gave 2 months for it and it didnot come. That's more than enough time for being patient.

hey dude i think you missed my point... i agree beyhadh finite series hai but vo first season hai dear so usme ofcourse usme sare character new hai aur uski back story hai maya ka obsession reveal kiya par abhi bhi uski past story fully reveal nahi hui hai... yaha mera point ye hai ki most of character ki back story pata hai from S1 jo new character aaye hai uski hi back story reveal honi hai agar vo bhi starting me reveal ho jaye to phir drama phir se S1 type ka hi ho jayega aur kuch charm nahi rahega...naagins2 me sare character include shivangi ki back story pata hai so new character hi hai new angle story me so usse thodi der ke baad hi reveal karge to hi kuch suspence, thrilled aur intense story hogi ye mera point hai aur me apni side se ye point close karti hu kyunki iske upar dicussion ka koi matlab hi nahi hai... so good day

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kasaf

@kasaf

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Posted: 7 years ago

#73

Originally posted by: Rein123

Agreed that according to you the mystery surrounds over who Rocky is and why Yamini pampers him and all because that is the exact same question I have asked in my original post. But to reveal stuff later towards the end even in Hollywood is done with side characters not leads.

most of hollywood series me main character jo season1 se hota hai vahi continue karta hai last season tak...so usme season2 me new character ate hai vo main character ke story ka part hote hai aur unki story ahishta ahishta hi reveal hoti hai ki vo main character ke kitne suppot me hai aur uska effect main character pe kya hoga... Naagin2 me ye story hai naagin shivangi ki shivangi ki opposite Rocky hai so rocky shivangi ke story ka part hua... so Rocky ki story dhire dhire hi unfold hogi kyunki dusre sare character jo part hai shivangi ki story me unki back story all ready hi reveal ho gai hai season1 me atleast audience ke liye... kuch point me shivangi ke liye bhi.. i agree ki hollywood me side character jo main character ki story me bahot hi IMP role play karte hai uski story badme reveal hoti hai par yaha case alag hai kyunki ye season2 hai par yaha pe main character shivnaya nhi hai so eqaution change hogaya yaha pe shivangi ki story me jo IMP role play karege unki story dhire dhire reveal hogi jab tak maker ke pass purane character ke kuch move hai tab tak.. phir revenge aur new reveal story sath sath me chalega.. it's my view.. chalo byee ab me ye topic meri side se close karti hu.. good day...

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Reine Lobo

@Rein123

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Posted: 7 years ago

#74

Originally posted by: kasaf

hey dude i think you missed my point... i agree beyhadh finite series hai but vo first season hai dear so usme ofcourse usme sare character new hai aur uski back story hai maya ka obsession reveal kiya par abhi bhi uski past story fully reveal nahi hui hai... yaha mera point ye hai ki most of character ki back story pata hai from S1 jo new character aaye hai uski hi back story reveal honi hai agar vo bhi starting me reveal ho jaye to phir drama phir se S1 type ka hi ho jayega aur kuch charm nahi rahega...naagins2 me sare character include shivangi ki back story pata hai so new character hi hai new angle story me so usse thodi der ke baad hi reveal karge to hi kuch suspence, thrilled aur intense story hogi ye mera point hai aur me apni side se ye point close karti hu kyunki iske upar dicussion ka koi matlab hi nahi hai... so good day

I see what you're saying but what we're saying its not working out and its just making those scenes with him and shivaangi look just boring. They can or may do that but its not working out.

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Reine Lobo

@Rein123

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Posted: 7 years ago

#75

Originally posted by: kasaf

most of hollywood series me main character jo season1 se hota hai vahi continue karta hai last season tak...so usme season2 me new character ate hai vo main character ke story ka part hote hai aur unki story ahishta ahishta hi reveal hoti hai ki vo main character ke kitne suppot me hai aur uska effect main character pe kya hoga... Naagin2 me ye story hai naagin shivangi ki shivangi ki opposite Rocky hai so rocky shivangi ke story ka part hua... so Rocky ki story dhire dhire hi unfold hogi kyunki dusre sare character jo part hai shivangi ki story me unki back story all ready hi reveal ho gai hai season1 me atleast audience ke liye... kuch point me shivangi ke liye bhi.. i agree ki hollywood me side character jo main character ki story me bahot hi IMP role play karte hai uski story badme reveal hoti hai par yaha case alag hai kyunki ye season2 hai par yaha pe main character shivnaya nhi hai so eqaution change hogaya yaha pe shivangi ki story me jo IMP role play karege unki story dhire dhire reveal hogi jab tak maker ke pass purane character ke kuch move hai tab tak.. phir revenge aur new reveal story sath sath me chalega.. it's my view.. chalo byee ab me ye topic meri side se close karti hu.. good day...

Yes but over there they continue the stories and don't take huge leaps just for the heck of a fresh start like how they did here. In fact there is no thing called fresh story or fresh start there unless its a different character's story for which again they establish all the facts from the beginning only not in the between or towards the end, they do that either in for side characters who grow later in the show as it progresses. Even in anime's and Asian dramas which are just 20 or 30 episodes long the leads are always given a back story early not later because later is not a time when someone would be interested in case of finite series.

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Foram

@foram.

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Posted: 7 years ago

#76

shivangi aint some object that ppl are arguing who she needs to end up with

shivangi alone hi achi hai

revenge khatam karo and rafa dafa karo sabko

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Reine Lobo

@Rein123

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Posted: 7 years ago

#77

Originally posted by: foram.
shivangi aint some object that ppl are arguing who she needs to end up with
shivangi alone hi achi hai
revenge khatam karo and rafa dafa karo sabko

This is also fine as long as she is not with that showpiece.

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Zaalima_5

@Zaalima_5

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Posted: 7 years ago

#78

Originally posted by: kasaf

KVB pahele se hi bol dega kya ke uske character me kya twist hai ofcourse vo yahi bolega ke uska sirf romantic character hai aur jaha tak depth ki baat hai to vo sirf negative se hi nahi aa sakta... vo direct aur indirect naagmani se connect hai aur uska charcter positive hi rahega kyunki vo main lead hai... KVB negative ho yaa romantic dono character ko aache se play kar sakta hai iss liye vo versatile actor hai... KVB jayada negative character paly karta hai uska matlab ye nahi hai ki naagin2 me vo vahi character play karega agar aesa hoga to vo predictable hoga..muje nahi lagta ke EK itna aasan predictable drama banayegi... Main lead hai Rocky so ofcourse vo positive hi rahega par uska play naagmani aur avntika jese powerful caharcter ke samne kaya hai vo reveal hoga... uske character ke layered open hoge vo direct aur indirect naagin aur naagmani se connect hoga...😊

kasaf.. totally agree with you.. yes KVB is an awesome actor.. he is just SUPERB..👏 i thought it will be diff to watch Naagin2 without AB, even mera dil toh tut hi gaya tha jab maine first epsode dekha tha.. but now i m enjoying.. KVB is doing well as rocky..😳

the best part i like about KVB is, i like his dialogues mix with Hindi and English.. hardly actors get such dialogues.. but i have observed, that KVB always used such dialogues.. and i just love this.. aur mujhe lagta hai writer KVB ke liye specially aise dialogues likhte hai..😆

i just love to watch his role in KZK "spoil brat PREM" .. my god he was awesome.. still miss my "prem and basanti.." 😳

Edited by kulsum_5 - 7 years ago

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slippery_chilka

@slippery_chilka

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Posted: 7 years ago

#79

Originally posted by: kasaf

hey dude i think you missed my point... i agree beyhadh finite series hai but vo first season hai dear so usme ofcourse usme sare character new hai aur uski back story hai maya ka obsession reveal kiya par abhi bhi uski past story fully reveal nahi hui hai... yaha mera point ye hai ki most of character ki back story pata hai from S1 jo new character aaye hai uski hi back story reveal honi hai agar vo bhi starting me reveal ho jaye to phir drama phir se S1 type ka hi ho jayega aur kuch charm nahi rahega...naagins2 me sare character include shivangi ki back story pata hai so new character hi hai new angle story me so usse thodi der ke baad hi reveal karge to hi kuch suspence, thrilled aur intense story hogi ye mera point hai aur me apni side se ye point close karti hu kyunki iske upar dicussion ka koi matlab hi nahi hai... so good day

Dude what you are saying does not make sense especially for a ML. S1's character's we already know about but if a character is important than their backstory is always given in the beginning and not left hanging as an after thought for the middle of the show. Like for example Rudra or Akhilesh Raheja. As soon as they entered their backstory was explained. And if there is a mystery connected to that character than a hint of it is given with every passing week to build it up till the revelation. With Rocky none of that was done. Khair, if you still believe what you do, then let's agree to disagree because I am sick and tired of making the same point again and again.

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