Devki's hypocritical speech on marraige

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I want to ask only ONE THING

Where was Devki's Gyaan that she gave to Rajvi when she broke her OWN marraige ?

Her speech to Rajvi was hypocritical

Does not ALL that she told Rajvi apply to HER marraige as well ?

She said ATEET KA PYAAR BHULANA SAMAJHDARI HAI ...is not this applicable to Vaibhavjee ? Why did Devki encourage it then ?

She said Concentrating on the PYAAR that you have in the present is important . Is not this applicable to her and Vaibhav?

Going by Vaibhav's logic , even Rajvi should break her marraige and go to Viraj as she 'LOVED" him . So what if Gaurav has been born . Vaibhav is ready to marry Sabina even if his business empire topples due to his divorce by share value going down . Even if there isrift within family .Even if BB dies of shock .For him PYAAR is important , right ? So why should Gaurav or her marraige be important to Rajvi ? She too shud be advised to follow her 'LOVE"

And Devki has encouraged it by doing Wah Wah of his so called love

At least The Devki Vaibhav marraige has Love from one side ...The Sid Rajvi marraige had no love for long ...Rajvi LEARNT to love Sid , Sid STILL does not love her , so WHY should Devki alow two souls to bear the corpse of a loveless marraige as she told her sasur ? These were her very words

Why should Rajvi be advised NOT to be frank with her spouse when honesty should be the base of a marraige ...after all dear Mother Supremo Baa had 'honestly' told Devki ALL the facts about Vaibhav Sabina's great love story didn't she ? So does not Devki feel now that some honesty should be shown with Siddarth too ? Former love stories should be TOLD according to BAA and Devki , right ? Only Master had objected to it .Why not NOW then ?

Devki understands the sanctity of OTHERS marraige , but not her own ?

She is more concerned about Sabina than BB ! She constantly tells Vaibhav , I am waiting for u to return with Sabina ...So I can do her AARTI and then move out after fixing roses with a stapler on the suhaag raat bedsheet . Big fat blood red ones , all within a distance of four inches I think .

She wanted to protect Sabina's so called AABROO when Sabina's own mom had cared two hoots for it when she posed for po*n photographs ...Devki had NOT thought of AABROO of Virani Family who had given her so much . Had she ? IMV had even asked her that question ...have u thought what scandal will be there in society if u and Vaibhav divorce ? Neither had Devki thought of BB's aabroo .๐Ÿ˜†

Has Vaibhav thought of it when he has left all Kaam Dhandha and is roaming like a majnu from city to city to find an actress who has not bothered to leave even a forwarding address as she respects the institution of marraige more than him ?

Has Vaibhav wondered WHO is taking business decisions when he is absent ? About HIS projects ? IMV has his own and Sid has his own ,is not Vaibhav accountable professionally ?

No , he is doing Sabina Mera pyaar and Devki was dancing with him ...so why this hypocritical speech to Rajvi explaining Sanctity of marraige ?

Tell her na , go pursue ur PYAAR !

Charu smiles smugly and taunts IMV instead of pulling up her spoilt son and giving him a hard pinch ...has she ONCE wondered what the fate of this family will be if Sabina comes as bahu ? What the business will suffer ? For Charu its ok if an empire topples ...her son shud follow his pyaar ! But has Charu wondered WHO will fund her BaBa Tejomay projects then ? Sabina I guess . with her crores as she dances with heroes on screen , and Vaibhav bites knuckles jealously in a corner !

With Charu , Devki and Baa's principle , even Nirali's marraige should be accepted . All should be allowed to make whatever choices they want ...let Nirali shamelessly throw herself at a man , let Vaibhav dance in city after city after an actress , let Rajvi go to Viraj with Gaurav !

The truth is , IMV takes decisions that r beneficial to family and business both and keeps all in control . Left to these people , there would be no Virani family left neither a business empire . It is not easy to become a King . Someone should tell this self righteous lot that .

With what mooh is Devki still staying there , and why is she hiding from BB if her mahaan decision is so right ? Its not IMV who will be responsible if BB collapses it will be Devki and Vaibhav alone . Constantly the old man is asking where is Vaibhavkumar in this crisis , she has NO answer , except Vaibhavjee is still my DOST .

She is deluding herself . Vaibhav is NO dost anymore . Vicky had RUSHED to Sabina's aid , jeopardising his own marraige ...that was DOSTI .Even after hearing about what hell Devki is going thru and after ALL that she did for him , Vaibhav is still sitting tight in Delhi as if his butt is glued with Fevicol to the sofa , searching for Sabina .

Lastly ...Devki has NO RIGHT to say Sabina will be bahu of Virani house and instigate Vaibhav to FIGHT for his love etc . Accepting her as bahu is prerogative of IMV and Charu alone , its none of Devki's business . She is way out of line there . Instigating vaibhav to fight may cause severe damage to him and his family ...if Devki has truly decided to divorce , she shud move out quietly with dignity and clam up on the subject ...Vaibhav and IMV will see to it as this concerns THEM . Some one needs to blast Devki and I hope this time its not IMV but BB .












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Posted: 13 years ago
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๐Ÿคฃ oh u r back.. and your comment on the stapled blood red roses 4 inches apart๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ and fevicol gluing the butt on the couch..๐Ÿคฃ seriously if all he is doing is to wait for Vo phone call then he can do so at home too.. besides being more proactive in cleaning the mess he supported and created..

A lot of what you said abt D.. I wrote in my post yest..

http://india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1783594

Great expectations she held from IMV..๐Ÿ˜† as she requested him to accept Sabina.. the thing is.. she has lent her brain also to VV.. in his lil crusade.. obv IMV HIT her hard.. no free lunches in life.. D.. he was purposely harsh to her.. if this is HOW YOU want to do business.. stay at home and spend lil money like rajvi.. not topple my empire.. what a blow to the girl's pride.. and I LOVED IT.. when he told Charu..

THATS WHY I DID NOT WANT SABINA ENTRY in the house.. but of course I AM THE BAD GUY..why wld ANYONE take my word..

I'll post my take on her marriage advice to rajvi.. in a bit.. but I DISAGREE.. again she is giving wrong advice.. Rajvi must tell Sid.. secrets like this can blow out of proportion.. see what happened when V kept his past a secret.. now if Rajvi does too.. who knows.. besides Viraj is no sabina to shed tears.. claim to be radha and leave.. he has harmed Sid before and can be a threat again.. and there D takes it upon herself again.. she is taking herself too seriously again.. till now she hasnt succeeded in any thing she has taken upon.. whether its Sid painting.. CP ind.. VS reunion.. where does she gather tht self confidence..

Viraj will shred her to pieces.. his insolence is way beyond Ds acumen.. he can only be handled by IMV
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Viraj will shred her to pieces.. his insolence is way beyond Ds acumen.. he can only be handled by IMV

Yup . Devki's one fault is that she feels she can handle ALL by herself .

She did not feel the need to even talk to her sasur who had asked BB for her hand in her arranged marraige ...before breaking it . She did not feel the need to talk to BB .

Today she feels she can handle Viraj who is a psycho and who tries repeatedly to MURDER Sid .

What experience does she have in handling such gone cases like Viraj ?

IMV , whose judgement is perfect wud have gauged in a minute how further gone Viraj is . He needs to be crushed ...he is like a serent , if his head is not crushed , he will bite and it will be fatal .

And Sid is NO Vaibhav , nor is he Sabina . Sid is very strict and extremely egoistic .The way he was FIRING Rajvi today [ I felt quite angry with him } without even listening to her side of the story ...Sid may DIVORCE Rajvi if this comes out the wrong way .

But sonali , The worst is Devki constantly deciding that Sabina will come in Virani house as bahu and telling Vaibhav go against ur Dad . As a bahu she held Vaibhavs family together , as this Dost she is tearing it apart is the irony .


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Ok I re-watched the scene again... btw Rajvi and D... but b4 tht.. lemme take up Sid's cause.. NO Kools I WAS Happy with him today.. his rage should his sense of accountability and his disappointment with himself and his wife.. esp in front of his dad IMV...Sid for a while is trying to mend his life.. be on IMVs good books.. not miff him... he is trying to keep the balance.. today when iMV called him.. and told him do you have any clue.. what your wife has been upto..

Sid as a human being.. as a son.. as a husband was embarrassed.. if u rem he was impressed by how IMV kept a tab on everyone's life.. and today he was ashamed.. tht he had found out something abt Rajvi tht even he did NOT know.. and IMVs tone.. I need an explanation NOW.. like Sid was responsible..

this humiliation.. dejection.. and in the sudden suspicion that Rajvi cld have something to do with the current happenings.. (still baffles me both him and Baa gave IMV benefit just on his word๐Ÿ˜†).. and more than that he was let down by himself.. for not taking control of his life.. his authority.. Just like IMV keeps an authority to maintain order.. Sid has tht right too.. as a husband as a father.. to make sure.. things are not falling apart behind his back.. his rage in fact was an indication of how much it mattered to him.. he did NOT want to be called the loser again.. who had no sense of control in his life.. where his wife cld do anything behind his back.. he HAD TO take control of their life.. and i see it as a good thing.. obv he is willing to give her a chance to explain herself.. even in the precap he said I am still waiting for yer ans.. but he has the right to be angry that she HAS HIDDEN SOMETHING.. esp when they finally reconciled to keep things transparent when it came to each other...He is justified to be offended.. to feel responsible.. very human
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Posted: 13 years ago
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obv IMV HIT her hard.. no free lunches in life.. D.. he was purposely harsh to her.. if this is HOW YOU want to do business.. stay at home and spend lil money like rajvi.. not topple my empire.. what a blow to the girl's pride.. and I LOVED IT.. when he told Charu..

THATS WHY I DID NOT WANT SABINA ENTRY in the house.. but of course I AM THE BAD GUY..why wld ANYONE take my word..

Both Charu and Devki need blastings. Both have been shamefully immature .

Yes he was purposefully harsh on her [ it was the Guru in him this time } He had NEVER wanted her to sit at home and be confined to the kitchen , EVER . He had liked her for her business acumen . But she forgot business ...she mixed it with foolish heart decisions and with the few crores that trailed in and that she termed as 'success' by distributing cake , she invited a bigger havoc like her divorce with Vaibhav that wud cast a shadow over share market and decrease value of shares and perhaps create unemployment if vaibhav industries closed down as Sabina's past is shady and disreputable . Family oriented people invest in Shares and they WON"T like it . IMV knows this .

He can NEVER bless Sabinas marraige , and he is within his rights to do so . I fully understand where he is coming from .

She has no right to force Sabina down his throat like this .This is not about Vaibhav alone . She married into a tycoon's household ...u cannot just take teenagerish decisions there .

And Charu ?I was so glad when IMV told her Why do u expect me to help devki now when she gave up all Haq by signing on divorce papers . With what face Charu went to him asking him to help Devki ? If he is a Paapi and his money is maha paapi , why this call for help from him ? Go to baa ! or see if u can conjure up money on ur name alone !

He had given Devki everything ...Haq has bahu , Haq as business partner if she cared to join him . Devki constantly turned him down and Charu and baa did Wah Wah of her immaturity terming them as great decisions . Not once did they give her sound practical advice .

So he showed her practical reality . Focus on Vaibhav . Its time u did that instead of mahaanta that is extremely faaltoo was his truthful barb .




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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonali.19281

Ok I re-watched the scene again... btw Rajvi and D... but b4 tht.. lemme take up Sid's cause.. NO Kools I WAS Happy with him today.. his rage should his sense of accountability and his disappointment with himself and his wife.. esp in front of his dad IMV...Sid for a while is trying to mend his life.. be on IMVs good books.. not miff him... he is trying to keep the balance.. today when iMV called him.. and told him do you have any clue.. what your wife has been upto..


Sid as a human being.. as a son.. as a husband was embarrassed.. if u rem he was impressed by how IMV kept a tab on everyone's life.. and today he was ashamed.. tht he had found out something abt Rajvi tht even he did NOT know.. and IMVs tone.. I need an explanation NOW.. like Sid was responsible..

this humiliation.. dejection.. and in the sudden suspicion that Rajvi cld have something to do with the current happenings.. (still baffles me both him and Baa gave IMV benefit just on his word๐Ÿ˜†).. and more than that he was let down by himself.. for not taking control of his life.. his authority.. Just like IMV keeps an authority to maintain order.. Sid has tht right too.. as a husband as a father.. to make sure.. things are not falling apart behind his back.. his rage in fact was an indication of how much it mattered to him.. he did NOT want to be called the loser again.. who had no sense of control in his life.. where his wife cld do anything behind his back.. he HAD TO take control of their life.. and i see it as a good thing.. obv he is willing to give her a chance to explain herself.. even in the precap he said I am still waiting for yer ans.. but he has the right to be angry that she HAS HIDDEN SOMETHING.. esp when they finally reconciled to keep things transparent when it came to each other...He is justified to be offended.. to feel responsible.. very human


Well yes if u put it this way .๐Ÿ˜Š yeah , ur right . Absolutely .I did not think of it that way , I felt sorry for her as she seemed so terrified .

True . I take my words back .
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Now coming to D... if u heard right.. she said as mature it is to look beyond your past.. its only that prudent to take care of the love you have FINALLY GOT..

Rajvi has tried hard to find a specific position in Sid's life.. where he can share his pain.. sorrow.. joy and world with her and vice versa..according to D she hasn't gotten that from V.. and can never get it from his own admission to Sabina.. so she saw no hope.. if he had said.. I will try to give D a chance.. she cld have tried.. so I still think her stand on applying for divorce is justified.. esp when she got emotionally invested and had some expectation from the marriage.. BUT what I don't agree is her stand on uniting V.. sending him on this unreal quest.. disregarding IMV-BB in this decision making.. and all her mahanta.. and in this context.. although I relate to her philosophy wrt Rajvi.. her advice on the method was exactly the opposite.. it wld have made more sense of her to say..

yes you have to take care of your present esp when you have and want to invest yourself in it with Sid.. and the best way to do that is to tell him everything.. put your point across.. Sid is understanding.. if he told him the same things she told D.. tht she was scared.. ashamed.. wl d he kill her.. nope.. wld he divorce her.. nope. .he may be offended she did not have tht confidence.. to tell him b4.. but he will come around.. knowing what' at stake.. he has to protect his family from a psycho.. but NOT telling Sid is LETHAL.. not only can it BREAK their marriage if it came out in the wrong time.. or wrong place.. it could be harmful for himself and the kid.. knowing Viraj can be homicidal.. how can D assume tht right or responsibility of letting someone NOT know the cause of their risk.. that they are unsafe.. and moreover Viraj is a reporter.. he cld make a whole news abt his and Rajvi's past.. how can D stop that from leaking out.. if in fact today Sid knows and he tells IMV they COLLECTIVELY can come up with the best damage control situation.. heck IMV has STOPPED rajvi.. STOPPED D from moving out.. he is not SOMEONE to throw the bahus out.. in fact he will fight for their and the virani honor..

when she says.. WE WILL THINK OF SOMETHING.. who does she mean.. she and Rajvi.. IS she crazy.. can she go to the limit that Viraj can.. she pissed me off in her assumed joan of arc ways the day she was taking on the hooligans outside her office.. what smartness is tht.. they just threw stones inside.. so many men can cause harm.. and here u r taking on Sabina's cause with them... they r showing D as extremely stupid with no sense of street smartness.. bravery is stupidity if one doesn't equate brains with it..

mins b4 she heard IMV come down on her for jeopardizing his name.. his repute.. for her mahaanta.. and the next min she is running for another cause.. wat is wrong with her.. SIT AND THINK.. and wasnt she the one who told V sarcastically why did you not tell me abt your past.. and then went dont try to give reasons... coz I know it all.. how can she not see.. tht Sid stands to get hurt the same way.. if he is kept in the dark..

I am sorry to sound harsh..but the kind of smartness D has shown for herself and others.. IMV is right.. having DREAMS alone wont take you anywhere.. you need to have the mind to give feasible shapes to those dreams.. making unicorns out of them wont take you anywhere.. coz UNICORNS DONT EXIST..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I completely agree that she has no right to give Rajvi advice since her own marriage is down the drains, but she didn't tell Rajvi to go purse her love because Rajvi said that she loved Sid now. I wish she had just left after signing the papers and telling everyone. I had thought she would, but no, she didn't. It would have saved us from this mess and now she's going to get involved in someone else's marriage again. She was wrong last time with the painting thing and she's wrong now.

About the messing with his empire thing, I feel IMV was wrong there. D did not mess with his empire. The movie was doing great, to be the next superhit, but HE ruined it. Yes, he did it for her own good, but she did not pick a bad project and she was successful in it even if the reasoning behind her picking the project was V's happiness. He has messed with all her projects and so I feel that he had no right to comment on her capabilities as a businesswoman.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Me too , I agree with D to the point of deciding to divorce V and not forcing herself on him .

Where i don't agree is her going beyond that and insisting that she will welcome Sabina blah blah and ensure Sabina becomes bahu of Virani house .Thats NOT her decision to make . Its not even Baa's . Its strictly IMV , Charu and Vaibhav's decision .

She shud quietly move out and worry about her grandfather . He is a traditional man who for sake of tradition broke his own daughters love marraige , will he be in any frame of mind to accept DIVORCE ?

She owes more to her Grandpa than to sabina . Her grandpa was her mother and father both as both were not present in her life . Sabina is Vaibhav's headache .


I find her extremely sassy with IMV for the first time when she kept insisting in front of him that Sabina will indeed come as bahu to this house . Its HIS house and HE is Vaibhavs Dad . Who is SHE to tell him who to accept as bahu or no ?

she also has no business telling Vaibhav u fight for ur love if Dad disapproves . If she believes in this concept of fighting for love , why did she not fight for HER love by behaving like a woman for once instead of an unreal martyr .

IMV is right in this full mess . What devki is doing is utter nonsense . I bet she will stay on as Bhabhi TILL Nirali's marraige upon IM's request .๐Ÿ˜ƒ The old fox will use Nirali's marraige as a pretext to put V and D together .



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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: chandaursitare

I completely agree that she has no right to give Rajvi advice since her own marriage is down the drains, but she didn't tell Rajvi to go purse her love because Rajvi said that she loved Sid now. I wish she had just left after signing the papers and telling everyone. I had thought she would, but no, she didn't. It would have saved us from this mess and now she's going to get involved in someone else's marriage again. She was wrong last time with the painting thing and she's wrong now.


About the messing with his empire thing, I feel IMV was wrong there. D did not mess with his empire. The movie was doing great, to be the next superhit, but HE ruined it. Yes, he did it for her own good, but she did not pick a bad project and she was successful in it even if the reasoning behind her picking the project was V's happiness. He has messed with all her projects and so I feel that he had no right to comment on her capabilities as a businesswoman.


Whatever he has done is purposeful . She is just not listening and going on and on like a parrot about How Sabinaji desrves to be bahu of this house . IMV has no alternative but to come down hard , Devki only took all his options away . He is commenting on the failure of the larger picture in business ...sure this film may be super hit but the divorce may affect shares of Vaibhav Group and many people depend on them for employment.
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