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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000


There is no high attribute ...he is highly complex , bas .😊 We find that complexity fascinating . Whn I read d posts, it seems like glorification of IMV.😊

I for one , wud not call terming the rest as 'stupids' as trivialising them today at this point and in this track . They indeed r from my POV . They ignored the sanctity of marraige and gave undue importance to Vaibhav's past flame which has no value whatsoever before an institution called marraige . Call it Compro Vompro but it was a marraige . These so called seasoned , experienced elders twiddled their thumbs and looked on at the tamasha wen they cud have easily halted it when IMV was away . Still 'stupid', 'idiots nd bewakoofs' r harsh sounding words, especially whn said in reference 2 d elders. Whn IMV is left speechless by D's very pure hearted nd logical reasonings, den 2 expect other family members 2 dissuade D in her course of action isn't reasonable. Also d main onus of BB nd his health lies on D's shoulder, whn she's disregarding tht, thn how can d others be blamed? Also none of d elders were responsible in D finding out d truth, their only fault lies in not being able 2 stop D.

Vaibhav's stupid love affair is NOT worth destroying the life of the girl he married or the death of her Grandfather who entrusted his little grandaughter to them as a whole , trusting their word .

They HAVE been incredibly irresponsible and stupid in my opinion .

Baa especially . She destroyed V and D's marraige , not IMV . Baa knew d truth a long time ago, so it's unfair 2 say she destroyed VD's marraige.

Everything was going fine and it was a happy family atmosphere .

Today Vaibhav's love has destroyed it all and its this destruction that was inflamed by BAA , not IMV .

Sab toota hua hai , bikhra hua hai . Coz Vaibhav followed his heart . And others , for their nasha of saying I told U So to IMV , encouraged it .

Not ONE elder told Vaibhav privately that Stop this nonsense and get a bloody grip .

Only PK told him , that too , in the end .

U say IMV made it out as if he had obliged her with his help before marraige ...when he only had made BB bankrupt , he only had twisted the circumstances so Devki wud say YES .

Of course he did .πŸ˜ƒ But WHY ? is the most important question . WHY he went thru so much trouble , to make such complicated diabolical plans ?

refusing Sabina coz he did NOT want a film actress as bahu in his khandaan was his prerogative , lets dismiss that .

But WHY was selecting Devki his choice ?

What was special about Devki ?

Why did he , like an obsessed man , plot so much for her ? Why did he shower money , almost kill BB , agree to her conditions although he intended to topple them later etc etc ?

He wanted her ONLY is the answe

All say she was a pawn in his revenge plan .

But he wanted revenge against BB . He had no intention of hurting HER . He wud have used her as emotional tool to fluctuate BB's heart now and then , but personal anger against her ...a BIG NO NO .

Infact he was ready to make her his heir as Vaibhavs wife . He saw his love for business in her and he also saw CP in her and he was attracted to her like Charu told D before marraige when she had come to take her advice .

So what harm was he trying to do to HER personally ? Kuch bhi nahi as I see it .

He toppled the Swing Air Deal coz he wanted her to work for Vaibhav Group as his bahu Devki Virani .

Bottomline of everything is he wants her and her only .
Initially he wanted 2 take revenge with D too. But yeah once he came 2 know abt her being CP's daughter nd she became his bahu, den things changed. I am not refuting d fact tht IMV is fond but inspite of tht he has sabotaged her chances Y? Just so tht she works 4 him nd her brilliance benefits V industries?
Also by harming BB he is personally harming her too. Yes but as I hv already said, he'll only harm D directly as a last resort nd dat he'll not need 2 do, as he has many other means.

He wanted to handover his kingdom to her and Vaibhav ...he had thought Vaibhav wud come around and they wud procreate one day , expand his family and his business empire and he wud show BB what he had missed by not giving CP's hand in his ...The life that Devki led with Vaibhav wud have been CPs too ...He wanted to rub it in BBs face .

Now and then taunting BB was his revenge . Hurting Devki was really NOT part of his revenge plan . He hurts only those who cross him . Devki had not crossed him . Besides Devki was CP's daughter . Tht's wht I'm saying too...D hasn't crossed him.

So he brought her home and was happy . Whenever his human side is shown , one sees how much he enjoyed having Devki around . When she arranged breakfasts , he accepted the ivitations however busy he maybe . He talked about her fondly to business colleagues saying My bahu has invited me for lunch , gotta go . He never objected to them taking time off to go to Europe or the farm house . Sure he did some things in their absence , but honestly , the farm house trip was blessed by him . He gave HER a car , not Rajvi and he even told her she need not share it with all as he had given it to HER . He allowed her the Ganesh Worship although he personally is an atheist .

He may be a dominant egoistic man , but he loved her in his own dominating way , on HIS terms . 😊 when he loves , he loves on HIS terms , he does NOT understand any other way of loving ...by letting go etc . He simply does not understand that . Thats the reason he cud not let go of CP . Yes he definately made loads of concessions where D was concerned. Ah but u hv hit d nail on d head by saying he loves her on his own terms. Also he loves her coz she's toeing his line, let her rebel outrightly, thn we'll see how he reacts. Anyways in dis situation, his grouse isn't against D, but V bringing S home.

His revenge was against BB , never against Devki . Even in that he lost interest once Devki became his bahu . He lost interest in BB if u notice .

Sure he brought up BB's point as if he was his well wisher . He did it purposefully .πŸ˜† He will use ANY point to make Devki stay .

Devki's so called well wishers r actually responsible for her satyanash ...they r ok with her walking out and her Grandpa dying of shock and her remaining without a family . They know fully well she will be an orphan and have no one in the world if that happens .They know fully well they had committed to BB that they wud take care of Devki forever . And that now they r giving BB a big thenga.

Yet they did NOT bother to pull V up and went on an understanding Vaibhav 's love spree .

Why was THAT more important than the real thing ...a marraige .

The bttom line is ...the villain is the only one fighting to keep her in the family while they just watch as bystanders and claim to be her well wishers .

Baa wants Sabina and V's marraige . It has already wreaked Destruction . It will destroy More .

I hope they ALL r blasted by BB .

I hope IMV is blasted by ALL.πŸ˜‰πŸ˜†







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Posted: 13 years ago
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Munira: I take offense at one thing.. I dont know may be you are justified from your POV.. but I have always respected yours.. The post is not intended.. to be GLORFICATION.. just as I hate victimizing ... I hate glorifying too .. .no one is glorifying.. we are just happy to SEE beneath the surface of IMV.. may be the rare few who can see him for what the makers do intend to show.. He is NOT CLEAN.. but he is VERY REAL..

No one is refuting his means.. and I would have written a long reply to most of your points here.. trying to at least put forth my perceptions more lucidly.. but now I am not even sure its worth coz you already have passed a verdict on the post.. πŸ˜†.. I am lazy and arrogant enough to not explain myself.. the IMV trait I guess.. πŸ˜† but yup each of his lines are measured and have a purpose.. and like Kools said.. he is twisted enough to be attractive..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonali.19281

ah.. finally got all my interns/ Undergrads started.. and now I can abuse my freedom a bit.. boss away.. so the mice gotta play rite..πŸ˜† esp after the cat made the mouse work overtime the last 4 days.. havent got more than 4-5 hrs sleep in the whole weekπŸ˜†


Munira.. you are back with you LOWEEπŸ˜‰πŸ˜† oh how I missed it.. I will let Kools field you for a while.. and then add in my bits.. lets just say you see iMV like the other Viranis.. like master.. or baa or even Sid..and I see IMV thro CP or Devki's eyes.. and I wanna say D finding out abt IMVs unfair means wont make her look at him the virani way.. u know the jokers..

the rest have their definition.. heck strong enough... but in this matter they are a PACK OF JOKERS.. look at the contrast in the convo tht happened in the room btw IMV-D and the discussion outslde.. its typical panchaiyat as we call it.. no one is using their freaking mind and still advocating causes to suit their fancy... what were they saying.. Sid and his Vaibhav ki khushi.. R u serious buddy.. u just told the whole family in front of your WIFE tht a life you dont chose for yourself only gives you conflict.. I THT u had finally found some balance here..

let me not even get started with Baa.. Why is everyone making D a victim here. she is NOT.. NO ONE is.. they make D a victim (well D asked for it.. by divulging the intricate details like the Divorce paper bit.. the way V had put it across was diff from how it came projected to the family.. obv they wont understand).. but at the same time the jokers dont have the nerve to blame V coz heck he is a VICTIM too..🀣 so lets just stand and blame the only man who unabashedly doesnt wanna be victimized and dares to fight for what HE wants.. kill him.. but all of you want the same.. your own way.. if you could.. and just coz one of them aka D can have a fulfilment of her way at sight they stand in the wings and cheer for her.. not seeing the way is nothing but a WMD at this pointπŸ˜‰

And no buddy I havent read Atlas Shrugged.. started it long back in school but never got beyond a fraction.. Long story.. fountainhead I loved.. Atlas shrugged she was trying too hard with her objectivism is all I rem.. am a prudish reader.. so I cant read things tht stifle meπŸ˜†.. but its long back.. I dont know how I'll feel about the book now.. as for IMV.. he is defo a Heathcliff with a mix with Vito Corleone aka Godfather..πŸ˜‰ still looking for his able heir.. will the MIchael stand up.. πŸ˜†

Ya Sonali, believe it I too felt tht I was becoming d Baa of dis forumROFL Gosh tht is a scary thought.πŸ˜† Nd thnxs for d back-hand compliment (U know d JOKER one.πŸ˜‰) Sorry couldn't help pulling ur leg on tht one.πŸ˜† I think I'm done wid my quota of posts nd words now. U know I'm so bad at writing long posts...
Well I think again it's an impasse nd it's beyond me 2 argue against 2 maharathis, U nd Kools...so I surrender...
...till I recharge my dimaag ki batteries.πŸ˜†
PS: I hv read AS more thn once, but Fountainhead is my fav too. Also had read WH, but can't recall much of d book except Heathcliff's char nd IMV is Heathcliff undoubtedly.πŸ˜‰
Edited by sssshhh - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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wow what a discussion
yes yes imv is obsessed for devki, he wants her badly .
last time when she decided to go , he played and manipulated,bb kaa diwaala nikaal diya
and the stakes r very high this time
the two ppl in this world who admire him the most r his son and dil, if vs happens
both go away from him, he cannot afford that ,
he will never allow sabina to enter the house as the bahu, so vv will leave , devki will go too
uske empire kii band baj jaayegi, there is lot at stake this time, and he will play double triple hard to get his way
this time he can very well influence vv, cos somehwere vv is at fault
devki will not bend unless vv decides to change his decision , the final decision rests with vv
the thing is printing sabina mom photos might help in forcing sabina to stay in s pore but it wont help in uniting vd,
and i think this time if they unite it will not be a compro marriage , its too big a risk to get into compro marriage again
this time they have to make it work in a real sense
his only real hope is vv, he should conc on that aspect, make vv see sense lekin abbhi uskaa beta chala gaya hain
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Munira.. πŸ˜†If I hadnt gathered you enough I would have tried to explain and be on the defensive about your implied backhanded complimentπŸ˜†..πŸ˜‰.. and you baa.. are you kiddingπŸ˜†πŸ˜† naaahhh..what about SabinaπŸ˜‰πŸ˜†

And dont worry.. for once me and Kools agree.. so we come across as overbearing.. Dang Kools.. lets tone it down🀣 otherwise u guys had a good popcorn session with me and Kools warring over our perceptions during Sabina trackπŸ˜†.. you never know.. if CP gets back.. we will be back to bickering.. and something tells me I wld be camp CP and my individuality keeda will bicker all the way.. but then again individuality concept can be abused.. if one doesnt have proportion.. or balance.. which CP had.. D is on the line of abusing it right nowπŸ˜† with her mahaanta keedaπŸ˜†

my last dig.. Sabina gayi.. par mahaanta chod gayiπŸ˜†
Edited by sonali.19281 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Munira.. last one.. yup 1 character from fiction that really intrigued me was Roark.. if I can even use the word inspire.. on him.. but I wild use inspire for Chris Gardener if I can.. for the pursuit of happyness.. but sadly I wont in my most optimistic streak even pray for any adaptations on these 2 characters in bollywood or tv.. They ruined Roark in tht RGV movie with AB jr and Antara mali..

HM in MB has defo been inspired by WH and Heathcliff.. its showing more and more.. but he has hopefully given it a more optimistic turn somewhr.. as in unlike Heathcliff I hope the end isnt soo tragic for IMV.. I guess thats where the redemption angle comes in.. and for the love of me.. I hope they dont make him give up on or doubt everything he stands for.. coz the man has detachment issues right.. he has controlling traits.. but the man has impeccable sense of logic and proportion.. He is inspiring in some way.. defo is.. to me at least..
Edited by sonali.19281 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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πŸ˜†Whn I read d posts, it seems like glorification of IMV.😊

Not really , its actually only reading him . No one says he does good things does he ? We all agree he does scandalous things . So where does glorification come in ? All We do is see WHY he did what he did bas .😊Which other character in this show is this fascinating for us to probe into the Whys ? No One .

Still 'stupid', 'idiots nd bewakoofs' r harsh sounding words, especially whn said in reference 2 d elders. Whn IMV is left speechless by D's very pure hearted nd logical reasonings, den 2 expect other family members 2 dissuade D in her course of action isn't reasonable. Also d main onus of BB nd his health lies on D's shoulder, whn she's disregarding tht, thn how can d others be blamed? Also none of d elders were responsible in D finding out d truth, their only fault lies in not being able 2 stop D.

When elders stop behaving like elders and encourage faaltoo things one loses respect for themπŸ˜†πŸ˜† The moment Baa asked Sabina Kya Tum Vaibhav ke Bina reh Paogi , the word that flashed in my mind was stupid . What an incredibly stiupid question . A question that need NOT have been asked as it wud achieve NOTHING but Pain and destruction . Elders r supposed to guide the young to avoid HAVOC . D may have found the truth by herself ...but There was NO NEED to inflame it further by telling her that Sabina still loves Vaibhav and what a big TYaag Ki Devi she was . That put D on a guilt trip . If my bahu comes to me enquiring about my son's past flames I wud tell her they meant NOTHING and I wud advise her to focus on the present and NOW alone . What I wud most definetely not do is paint his girlfriends as Devis and tell her that they still r in love with my son .

Also , D found it out on her own coz these silly elders did NOT bother to tell her that she was Vaibhav's past flame . Without revealing that she still loved Vaibha of course .


Baa knew d truth a long time ago, so it's unfair 2 say she destroyed VD's marraige.

She destroyed VD marraige the moment she told D that S still loved V and what what Tyaags S did . THAT was the crucial factor that clinched it . Thats the reason even Master fired her . D had come to her crying and looking for solace . Had Baa assured her that S had left and it was upto HER to now calm V down and bring him on track , marrage wud NOT have broken . Telling her S still loves him just like V still loves her made it sound like D was the HINDRANCE . Baa ko toh kabhi maaf nahi karna chahiye .πŸ˜†

I am not refuting d fact tht IMV is fond but inspite of tht he has sabotaged her chances Y? Just so tht she works 4 him nd her brilliance benefits V industries?

He wants her wholly to himself .πŸ˜† Those sabotage attempts were not to destroy her but to distract her and make her return to HIM . If he wanted to destroy her he would incapacitate her for LIFE and that wud be very easy for him Like he does to others .. But he wants her as she is , for HIMSELF .
Also by harming BB he is personally harming her too. Yes but as I hv already said, he'll only harm D directly as a last resort nd dat he'll not need 2 do, as he has many other means.

Ah but he does not see it that way , his account with each one is seperate . He is very strict in his segregation . Also , his intent to harm BB was by mental humiliation . Which he wud be careful to do when D was not present .πŸ˜† BB ko thappad nahi marega IMV .Acha khilayega pilayega aur badappan jatayega . And in this mental humiliation , BB wud be alone , D wud NOT be part of it .😊


Ah but u hv hit d nail on d head by saying he loves her on his own terms. Also he loves her coz she's toeing his line, let her rebel outrightly, thn we'll see how he reacts. Anyways in dis situation, his grouse isn't against D, but V bringing S home.

He will do WHATEVER it takes to get her home , to be by HIS side and Vaibhavs side . If she stands opposite him and challenges him by promising to bring Sabina in his house and this city etc ,he will weaken her by fighting dirty . IMV loves ALL those whom he loves on HIS terms only . Be it Vaibhav , be it Devki or Nirali . He will give them the world but he will not pamper foolish emotions . And going OTT over Sabina issue is in his eyes a foolish emotion . Thats exavtly what D is doing . She has NOT stopped at signing divorce papers has she .She is announcing to press that she will bring Sabina home . Why ? Who is D to decide it ?Thats Sabinas prerogative . She is going OTT and is forcing IMV to open his fist unknowingly . Had she simply signed and stayed quietly with BB IMV wud start going over there to have talks and persuade BB and her to reconsider etc . The sad fact is D endangered Sbina with her innocent OTT goals . Otherwise IMV had simply let Sabina be.


I hope IMV is blasted by ALL.

Woh toh roj hi hota hai . Sab toh usi ko blast karte hai . Anmol said very correctly ...he is the punching bag when this time honestly its Baa who is the villain , not he . I agree with him .

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Posted: 13 years ago
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wow what a discussion
yes yes imv is obsessed for devki, he wants her badly .
last time when she decided to go , he played and manipulated,bb kaa diwaala nikaal diya
and the stakes r very high this time
the two ppl in this world who admire him the most r his son and dil, if vs happens
both go away from him, he cannot afford that ,
he will never allow sabina to enter the house as the bahu, so vv will leave , devki will go too
uske empire kii band baj jaayegi, there is lot at stake this time, and he will play double triple hard to get his way
this time he can very well influence vv, cos somehwere vv is at fault
devki will not bend unless vv decides to change his decision , the final decision rests with vv
the thing is printing sabina mom photos might help in forcing sabina to stay in s pore but it wont help in uniting vd,
and i think this time if they unite it will not be a compro marriage , its too big a risk to get into compro marriage again
this time they have to make it work in a real sense
his only real hope is vv, he should conc on that aspect, make vv see sense lekin abbhi uskaa beta chala gaya hain


Paaji.. there is more to it I am thinking.. VV has left.. yes.. but the thing is he knows 2 things are VVs love.. Sabina.. and V.Ind..πŸ˜‰πŸ˜† he will play both cards I think.. CP Ind ki band bajaney mein ek aur ghaata hain.. V ke paisey.. and V.ind and obv Sabina ka reputation and keeping her away.. coz D kept this juvenile sharth.. idiot.. she cld have left.. I dont get her now.. Sabina ke aney tak kyun wait karna.. why is she delaying it. .and wats was wid dat statement to the media tht she will ensure Sabina's return..she is making a tamasha of her marriage.. have some dignity.. kal when Sabina supposedly comes back as potential Virani bahu.. in Ds mind.. how is she gonna stop the media from wrecking havoc if she is letting them in.. Sabina ko handle karna is relatively easy for IMV as of now.. he can tapkao her.. if he wants any timeπŸ˜†.. its the least damage he has to look at for V/ D and V. Ind.. and by putting D on the backfoot he is ensuring V to return and protect her and himself.. coz he knows V lives with that guilt .. tht she did all this for him.. and his love for Sabina..

thts my reading of his moves.. layered hain just like him.. Sabina centric nahiπŸ˜‰.. jitni asani se D bolke nikal gayi ki V.Ind pe nuksaan nahi hone dungi.. V has a lil more understanding in terms of whats at stake for V. Ind.. and what it means to himself and his dad.. either he gives up all his stakes and moves out of the house and settles abroad.. which negates Ds point of not breaking the family.. or he comes back and takes over as the responsible mind keeping his jigar ka hoon aside..πŸ˜† dono sharthon mein Ds intended POA stands futile.. what she completely hasnt regarded is S ke Virani household mein ana is IMPOSSIBLE.. IMV wld die b4 he lets tht happenπŸ˜‰

and yes what Baa and master told him.. he has always exercized.. he has made moves thinking how D and V wld react.. the thing is.. VD dono ko guilt trip bahut jaldi hota hain.. and he will play tht on business.. finally business is back.. jokers ne ghar ka to tamasha bana diya.. ab IMV will use his corporate dimage to ensure both domesticity and enterprise.. He will use V. Ind and CP Ind AGAIN.. D has confidence of doubling Vs money.. lets see how she handles losing his moneyπŸ˜‰
Edited by sonali.19281 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Tht's d best part of dis forum...I think we understand each other pretty well, so no offence taken.

Sabina? No ways...I'm too conservative.πŸ˜†
I must say I relate 2 Charu d most. I think for u IMV...no no not IMV, but I guess it's CP for u.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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sonali u know what i feel ? All r focussed on Sabina Sabina he is the ONLY one focussed on Devki alone . I admire him for THAT . Sabina he is not worried about , he will squash her like a bug and flick her aside . He was worried that he wud lose Devki . That look on his face when she firmly told him that she wud not remain Virani bahu for long ??? When she went to get the file of divorced papers ? Priceless . Worried Look . She is the ONLY one who affects him this way . She renders him silent with her innocent devotion to him ...she calms him down like CP did , and she drives him to worry by making him feel insecure that he may lose her like CP did . No one else worries IMV . He is in full control . Only D shakes it .
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