Whose mother is she anyways..

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Posted: 13 years ago
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The mother of Disparities

i am one person who has tried to appreciate each character for the conviction he or she portrayed in this show.. but its been 9 months now..and the only conviction Baa has incessantly shown is being inconsistent.. projecting something but doing something else..

Never has she really supported everything she jumps at Ishwar for... So I come with this post.. to see if there is anyone who can make me SEE Baa a little more objectively.. and her real persona..

Who is she..

As extremely aptly put by her husband who loves her for her spirit... She is one with million reasons but zilch solutions...

But my bigger question here remains.. she is BAA.. but WHOSE mother is she ANYWAYS?

let me break it up..

IShwar/ IMV- She was shown to see Ishwar beyond what his father ever could.. coz he inherited her fire.. her spirit.. hence she supported his bigger dreams.. of moving to mumbai.. from mangrol.. but then.. what REALLY happened.. by her own admission.. Bhawanji Bha.. held respect for Master.. and his family.. which included IMV.. so Why did she NOT REASON with BB to give Ishwar a thought.. did she have doubts on her own upbringing.. I think not.. did she doubt IMV wouldn't succeed in life if he made his mind on it.. did she doubt IMV wasnt good for CP.. was she ASHAMED of IMVs love for CP..to support BBs opinion of him.. fine she did not support it.. but she did not DEBATE it either.. wldnt Bha have taken her more seriously.. if she had tried one time.. the only explanation she was ASHAMED.. shied away ...

Charulata Virani: One more person she claims to be a mother to.. But then why has she never raised a voice in Charu's support or rights in front of IMV.. why has she ONLY LENT her shoulder for Charu to cry on when she wanted.. Why has she ONLY SYMPATHIZED with her and at the same time gone and sat with IMV sharing his pain for CP.. why has she never slapped IMV for not being fair to Charu if she claims so ALL THE TIME..

LENDING her shoulder and SYMPATHIZING is like her specialty.. an art she has mastered in..coz that is the ONLY THING she has offered to All her children.. whether its IMV.. Charu.. or the other kids she claims to mother.. aka

DEVKI: Do I need to say more.. how can she not have seen the love Devki festers for VV.. oh wait she does.. she sees how D writhed in a hopeless expectation from her husband.. so while she could have gone and slapped the lack of responsibility in her grandson all she chose to do was sit by D and claim to stand up for her rights.. ONLY AGAINST IMV.. why not against VV.. if she soo supported her happiness.. why not against Sabina.. oh wait she is her another UNFORTUNATE DAUGHTER...

Sabina: A daughter she claimed by karma.. someone whom she has loved and related to for her fiery spirit determination.. etc.. then WHAT stopped her from ENCOURAGING that very daughter.. to egg her on to embrace life after a bitter past.. why could she not tell Sabina -no you are wrong to let your life wasted on your past.. dont think you will never find love.. dont think you would never get married.. open your mind.. open your heart.. if anyone YOU CAN.. coz you ARE STRONG..why hasnt she.. all she did was sit and sympathize.. ask her if she ever could forget V.. apologize on behalf of her unfortunate son.. unfortunate coz he bears her very trait.. of self-motivation..

the only time she has shown some level of proactiveness is towards Manhar and Sonal's cause.. by moving out with them.. but that to me also now comes across her act of defiance towards IMV more than for Sonal/ Manhar.. coz I failed to see her follow up on Sonal's dream.. or be involved in Manhar's vision.. All she did was pat their back for being brave enough to stand up for themselves.. AGAINST her other SON.. whose biggest fault comes across as contrasting conviction from her own.. being not doing what SHE APPROVES OF.. today she does the same.. Supports D. .coz she sees that as one more opportunity to STOP IMV from his dominance.. taking extremely lowly pleasure out of it... talking of woman power.. where is the REAL WOMAN POWER.. that stops one woman from being another woman's undoing.. (talking about CPs memory against Charu's present and Sabina's memory against Devki's present and future)

A mother does lend her shoulders to cry on.. but thats not THE ONLY THING a mother does.. If any time I cry in front of my mom.. she slaps me.. coz SHE CAN.. she tells me to toughen up.. coz the world wont run on my whims.. that I need to fight for myself.. she doesnt empathize with me.. coz she thinks its my undoing.. A MOTHER PROVIDES STRENGTH.. She is a shadow.. who is an invisible inspiration... for all the great convictions she portrays.. when has she practiced it on any of her children..she has been a weak influence on every person she has claimed as a child..

Why cant she go all the way in scolding IMV.. where it REALLY MATTERS... why cant she stand as a force for and against all the other children when its most appropriate.. WHY

so my question remains.. Who is she. .WHAT does she STAND FOR.. and more imp.. whose mother is she anyways..

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Posted: 13 years ago
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A song of love.. that I CAN only relate to completely wrt my love for my mother.. never felt love this way for anyone else..๐Ÿ˜Šone of my fave songs.. enjoy..

Somewhere.. I see IMV feel such for Baa.. somewhere I do..

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJCnbsryxkc[/YOUTUBE]
Edited by sonali.19281 - 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Faith-

LOLLL love the title!


I should put a credit there.. shamelessly borrowed from my all time fave show.. Whose LINE is it anyway๐Ÿ˜†..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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LOL credit chaddo its obvious enough ๐Ÿ˜†

And now that I have read the post...I saw the title and replied without reading the whole post ... I love the post (as always) and totally agree with you (that too as always)

Aaah and LOVEEE the song!
Its such a beautiful song

We still have to another day for the IMV-D scene *sigh*๐Ÿ˜†

And you were saying in another post na... the way V hugged PK and patted... I know I am also hoping against hope... he has some plan .. kuch tou ho warna as you said he might as well not come back


Oh and that day in your other post... went back to lurking tou jawab nahi saki to Paji's muh khola tou kitna khola๐Ÿ˜†... yeh apun ka ishtyle hai๐Ÿคฃ nahi bolna tou nahi bolna ... bolna hai tou chup nahi karna๐Ÿ˜†
Edited by -Faith- - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Faith-

LOL credit chaddo its obvious enough ๐Ÿ˜†

woh chori ki kya.. jiska zikar na kiya jaye๐Ÿ˜†

And now that I have read the post...I saw the title and replied without reading the whole post ... I love the post (as always) and totally agree with you (that too as always)
๐Ÿ˜† esp today.. she completely did a bheja fry today.. makes me wonder how IMV bears these women in his household.. time and again.. daily.. I have more respect for him..

Aaah and LOVEEE the song!

Oh I love it.. it gives u this inherent strength.. i guess thts what reverence is all abt.. a weird force.. that makes you at peace.. gives u tht inherent strength..
We still have to another day for the IMV-D scene *sigh*๐Ÿ˜†

arey they will obv use it as Week's finale bonanza.. firework wala IMV-D scene.. the very essence of MB.. I toh watch it mostly for tht.. apart from CP hopes.. bhad mein jaye rest


And you were saying in another post na... the way V hugged PK and patted... I know I am also hoping against hope... he has some plan .. kuch tou ho warna as you said he might as well not come back

I know eh.. I just cant fathom how tht bugger was so much at peace. and so nashukar ehsaanfaramosh like tht.. how cld PKs helpless sobbing not move him.. unless he has more than what meets the eye.. IDK I just cant see thro fools well if he is one..๐Ÿ˜†

Oh and that day in your other post... went back to lurking tou jawab nahi saki to Paji's muh khola tou kitna khola๐Ÿ˜†... yeh apun ka ishtyle hai๐Ÿคฃ nahi bolna tou nahi bolna ... bolna hai tou chup nahi karna๐Ÿ˜†

Arey ye to wahi baat huyi.. hum bolega to bologe ki bolta hain... ded fro zainab-ji.. to paa-ji๐Ÿ˜†

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbiAHGzYBBk

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonali.19281

woh chori ki kya.. jiska zikar na kiya jaye๐Ÿ˜† LOLL zikar karo par fikar na karo๐Ÿ˜‰.. Waisay yaar kya yaad dila diya... Once upon a time I was tou known as Chorni Morni ๐Ÿคฃ .. thought chor and emoticon chor etc kay ilzaam laga kartey thay *nostalgic muh* kya din thay...

๐Ÿ˜† esp today.. she completely did a bheja fry today.. makes me wonder how IMV bears these women in his household.. time and again.. daily.. I have more respect for him.. I know finally Master gave her a dose... He should ban her gajras for life now๐Ÿ˜†


Oh I love it.. it gives u this inherent strength.. i guess thts what reverence is all abt.. a weird force.. that makes you at peace.. gives u tht inherent strength.. Absolutely! :-)


arey they will obv use it as Week's finale bonanza.. firework wala IMV-D scene.. the very essence of MB.. I toh watch it mostly for tht.. apart from CP hopes.. bhad mein jaye rest I know woh bhi hai they are saving the best .. chalu loag ... *sigh* CP hopes kab rang laiyein gi


I know eh.. I just cant fathom how tht bugger was so much at peace. and so nashukar ehsaanfaramosh like tht.. how cld PKs helpless sobbing not move him.. unless he has more than what meets the eye.. IDK I just cant see thro fools well if he is one..๐Ÿ˜† hahahaha exactly nashukra ehsaan faramosh ... araam say thank you buddy chipkaya samaan uthaya muh uthaya aur chal pada... Aur jo kuch PK nay kaha woh bhi sun'nay kay baad he was so calm o_O


Arey ye to wahi baat huyi.. hum bolega to bologe ki bolta hain... ded fro zainab-ji.. to paa-ji๐Ÿ˜†

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbiAHGzYBBk
THANK you!!! that is perfect!!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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kyaa title hain

main aa gayaa, me planning to kidnap baa and send her to teerth yaatr๐Ÿ˜†
she is mad totally mad baapuji is much better , he is more objective and sees the larger picture
thats why he kept quiet over the bank manager fiasco too,
baa kii idealism kii aisi ki taisi , usko sadhvi banna chahiye
Edited by intruderfast - 13 years ago
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Might be we share same interest for D's future but not abt BAA I think. Atleast not for the above points u wrote. Lemme answer what I think

IMV/Ishwar : BB held respect for Master and his family . But we don't know when Baa came to know all abt CP and IMV, we don't know. Isn't it? He is in mumbai and baa is in mangrol and may be IMV has said to Baa after everything (After CP's marriage) . Even though if he would have said b4hand and Baa know's everything, what to reason with. It is not a business deal where she can go and say BB , that trust and invest in him, if he fails u can tack back the investment. It's BB's daughter and maybe if BB has respect for Master, he can't let his daughter marry a no-nothing guy.(Even though he is masters son) . We can't blame Baa, while we don't know fully what happened in the past. Isn't it? We don't still know what dirty game Dalli has played against IMV to marry CP, When Baa learnt about IMV's love with CP? We don't know anything and how can we blame Baa in CP and IMV's love matter.

Chaaru : I read in another one of ur posts that even though IMV loved CP, he has been fair to Chaaru and has been a good husband and the distance between (parda) chaaru and IMV were only after he became rich. Then what Baa should slap IMV for? Does Baa knw that there is a parda between IMV and Charu? I don't think she does. And all we know IMV is IMV, he never listens to anybody (not even Baa, U can review in all episodes, he listens to her but does only what he wanted to to do). She sympathized with IMV abt CP Bcoz she knows it can be never healed, bcoz it is the base of IMV's life or his wealth. Love for CP and hatred for BB. And as a mother and the only person who knows abt IMV's past , is she wrong to give him her sympathy. But, even though whenever she sympathized, she always advised to move on. Didn't she?

Devaki : Here in VD's case also, does she know that VD are sleeping in separate beds? No, I don't think so. After S came to Vaibhav Villa also, Baa is confident that nothing will go wrong in VD's relation bcoz of S, bcoz she saw VD in farmhouse, so, she is as innocent as all others. Even we viewers knowing that VD's marriage is a compro marriage and V is seeing only S in D in every scene in the farmhouse and remembering S all the time, we raised our hopes for VD's relation after seeing how he attended D when she got sprain in her leg. Without knowing any of the above things how can Baa slap VV to be responsible . Even when S got the bullet and hospitalized she convinced that she has done only as a friend, didn't she? I don't think Baa has done anything wrong by saying everything about VS to D, As she said yesterday, D heard it all from VV and came to know abt vicky also. The why to hide from her when we know that, without hearing from VV she started investigating about S and VO, after listening would she sit quite. She would go and dig the past. Isn't it better that Baa told everything , at least D can feel good that they were not still trying to keep in dark after she knew half of the truth.


Sabina : When Baa saw her suffering to this day abt his first love being a man, how can she say S to move on in her life. She is a woman and she knows that when a woman loves and knows that the person she loves also loves her even today, how can she move on and how can Baa advise her. S has many friends to give advise and in anyway, she can make whats good for her and whats not (After all she has done her life alone without anybody's advise)S is a matured girl and has seen world unlike D's innocence. Does she need a advise from Baa. No, all she need is a shoulder to cry on. Thats what baa has given, then what wrong in it

I don't see anywhere Baa doing injustice for her family. At every step she tried to keep the peace of VVilla. So, I don't blame Baa in any body's case. She has done what she can do and what she thought was correct for the family




Edited by janavii - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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btw one thing u noticed, baapuji and kaka who know abt all imv dirty tricks r with him on this one๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜†

they r not thinking abt sabina , and why should they , they r concerned abt devki only,and r wanting vd together , cos thats what is right for this house , for everyone,
i am sure they will never blurt out the truth abt bank manager too, cos they know that iss wajah se family mein daraar aa sakti hain
and really i am disappoined with charu, i had so much expectations from her
but she is bheegi billi types, ekdum darpok
cant wait for tom , imv blast her fully , u have full right , d had full right to divorce vv but she has no right to ask vv to go to s and tell him to bring her here, tell her that he is the boss here
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Posted: 13 years ago
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First whn I read d topic heading, I thought it was abt Charu, as she's d first person tht comes 2 mind whn I think of mothers in MB. ๐Ÿ˜‰

Baa doesn't take any action, but she is d pilar of support for all d chars of MB, whether IMV or S...she's like a sounding board for all nd I think tht's d only thing required of her char... nd of course to reprimand IMV nd make attempts to foil his daibolic plans.๐Ÿ˜‰
Don't know wat kind of role Baa played or how much she knew in d CP-IMV love story, so can't comment on dat. Only aware dat she knew dat BB had slapped IMV nd humiliated a self-respecing young man nd dat humiliation shaped IMV 2 a gr8 extent later on.
BTW Sonali, I agree wid Jhanvi whn she says tht Baa isn't always aware of d whole situation nd her actions r based on wat is known to her. She also did her utmost 2 bring VD closer during d picnic track nd did gv D d ILU card 4 V. She does things within her capacity, but is basically der to offer support. She's no pillar of strength, but dat's ok as all d chars. r shown strong enuff.
PS: I hv gone green frm now onwards, which is of course self-evident.๐Ÿ˜†
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