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Posted: 2 years ago
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What Raghav thought Pallavi told the messenger depends on whether Raghav feels vain or cynical. Vain Raghav thinks that the boy wouldn't dare to hurt the family of Raghav Rao. Cynical Raghav thinks that everyone has a price to risk his life.


I have not seen any Turkish shows, but maybe I should. I have no information about how many Hindi-listeners live in Turkey or what they demand. I suspect that corporate relationships dictate what content is repurposed for which channel. For example, on the Sun Marathi channel that started last October, almost every daily drama seems to be a remake of a Tamil story because Sun TV Network is headquartered in Tamil Nadu. There doesn't seem to be any effort to make the superstitious and patriarchal content palatable for a Marathi audience. Turkish audiences may be stuck with whatever Star Plus wants to export.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

What Raghav thought Pallavi told the messenger depends on whether Raghav feels vain or cynical. Vain Raghav thinks that the boy wouldn't dare to hurt the family of Raghav Rao. Cynical Raghav thinks that everyone has a price to risk his life.


I have not seen any Turkish shows, but maybe I should. I have no information about how many Hindi-listeners live in Turkey or what they demand. I suspect that corporate relationships dictate what content is repurposed for which channel. For example, on the Sun Marathi channel that started last October, almost every daily drama seems to be a remake of a Tamil story because Sun TV Network is headquartered in Tamil Nadu. There doesn't seem to be any effort to make the superstitious and patriarchal content palatable for a Marathi audience. Turkish audiences may be stuck with whatever Star Plus wants to export.

Bold 1- Now when writers have left everything to our imagination and we have to answer our own questions regarding the story then we can see Sulochana,s plan as we like😆

Bold 2- Agar indian channels apni marzi se apne shows other countries ko export karte hain to phir wo apne high trp shows export karenge na ke avg trp wale shows

Ab mhrw ko toh channel ne khud hi bcs of low trp offair kar diya tha toh wo aise show ko kyu export karega?

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Hello how are you?

I want to discuss with you about epi 114 and 117

In epi 114 Jaya, Pallavi ko raghav ke sath ek hi room me rehne ke liye kehti hai and after that Pallavi raghav se is bare me baat karti hai and convinces him to stay in the same room with her but jab raghav Pallavi ko uske sath bed share karne ke liye kehta hai toh wo bahut uncomfortable lagti hai and she even starts crying then after raghav assures that she is,safe with him, she agrees then during tera chahra song sequence she again looks uncomfortable and when she covers herself with the blanket, her facial expressions make it seem she is very scared and when raghav takes the file from under the blanket toh Pallavi ko uske blanket touch karne se bhi problem hoti hai

I don't understand one thing ke jab Pallavi itni hi uncomfortable thi raghav ke sath room or bed share karne me toh use Jaya ko is bare me bata dena chahiye tha wo use force toh nahi kar sakti thi na or kuch din pehle Jaya raghav se kehti bhi hai ke ab wo pallavi ko kisi bare me force nahi karna chahti or agar Pallavi ko sirf bed share karne se problem thi bcs wo kehti hai ke aajtak usne kisi ke sath bed share nahi kiya toh uski first marriage ke baad mandar ke sath bhi toh wo bed share karti or uske sath bhi uski arrange marriage hi thi or jab ek bar raghav ke vishwas dilane par wo bed share karne ko man gayi thi toh baad me uska aise react karna mujhe weird laga

Then in epi 117 when raghav falls asleep on her tummy, she doesn't look uncomfortable ,for a while she seems shocked but nothing more and after that in washroom she feels happy and blushes just thinking about it or makers ne Pallavi ke behavior me ye change sirf ek raat ke baad hi dikha diya tha agar ye hi change wo kuch din baad dikhate toh samjh me aata hai but only after one night I think makers have made a bit of haste to show this change in her behavior

Or agar makers ye dikhana chahte the ke Pallavi ke mann me raghav ke liye feelings aane lagi thi isliye use raghav ka touch acha laga toh phir epi 114 me Pallavi jaise react Kiya wo kya tha?

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Hello, I am well; I am trying to stay hydrated as the days get hotter. I hope you are well too.


My interpretation of the June 26 episode's moving-into-his-bedroom scenes is that Pallavi was forcing herself to face her fear. Human nature isn't perfectly rational or self-preserving. Victims of violence don't always avoid the perpetrator or the scene of the crime; sometimes, they seek him/it out for reassurance that it won't happen again, or to prove that they're not afraid, or even to reimagine their mistreatment as a prank or a consensual interaction. And I must be clear (even if the dialogue and direction weren't): the situation was not that Pallavi felt bashful because she was inexperienced with men in general. It was about Pallavi feeling physical attraction and sympathy and wanting intimacy with a man who had repeatedly invaded her personal space with aggressive behaviour, a man who had publicly lied about enjoying sex with her.


I don't find it weird that Pallavi's body language showed discomfort even as she was verbally agreeing to share a bedroom and share a bed. At that point, she had given up her desire to return to the Deshmukh family, and she had declared herself to be Raghav's wife. It was time to decide what kind of marriage it would be, and moving into the RR mansion gave Pallavi a choice: either claim her place in Raghav's bedroom right now, and work towards intimacy in spite of her discomfort, or lose this opportunity and stay in the habit of a sexless marriage. From the way Raghav talked, Pallavi might expect that if she didn't offer sex, he would find other women. So, Pallavi's hasty decision and lingering discomfort both make sense to me.


In the June 30 episode's scene of Pallavi waking up to find Raghav hugging her, I think she felt excited that she could sleep comfortably with him holding her and that he liked sleeping with her. It meant that her unease with Raghav wouldn't last forever, and someday they could have intimacy in their marriage. She was also happy to see Raghav sleeping peacefully after his agitated behaviour at the Vaṭa-Paurṇimā event.


If I had to make sense of Pallavi's behaviour on earlier occasions, when she shouldn't have felt safe with Raghav but she got closer anyway, I would guess that she was trying to convince herself not to be ruled by fear of him.


After Raghav threatened to run over Pallavi with his car, confined her with his body, and threatened to smash her mobile phone, Pallavi didn't have to meet him to pay him back for his keḷavaṇa "charity to the needy." She could have accepted it as compensation for the raw material that he had burned. Yet she went to the RR mansion and talked defiantly to his giant portrait and to him. The scene was played as comedy, but her bravado showed that she was trying not to be intimidated by Raghav's animosity.


That same night, Pallavi could have learned to stay away from Raghav when he carried her out of her house and tied her in front of a truck. Out of desperation to stop the bulldozer, she went to the RR mansion again, and Raghav kept her shivering for hours. Then (Pallavi thought) he had her kidnapped and tied up, and in fact he brought her to the RR mansion and kept her there overnight. After all of these traumatic experiences, it would have been natural for Pallavi to avoid the RR mansion. Instead, Pallavi visited Raghav's home to disrupt his pop-up display.


When Pallavi went to the RR mansion and dared Raghav to take back his complaint to the weavers' association and give her thirty days, she had to do it to survive. But when Raghav showed up at Manasi's maṅganī and fell on top of Pallavi, she didn't have to dance with him! Was she trying to reassure herself that he would behave in a crowd?


If that's what Pallavi thought, Raghav immediately disproved it by following her to her bedroom and trying to touch her blouse after she said no. After that, why did she accept his invitation to meet to discuss sarees for Jayati Jewels? Was it so important to act unflustered?


When Raghav refused to put on clothes for their meeting, Pallavi should have felt alarmed. Raghav might put his jacket over her torn sleeve and tell men not to look at her unhooked blouse, but when his mood changed, he would intimidate her with indecency. Yet Pallavi went to Raghav's house at night to embroider sarees. Was she so desperate to believe that she was safe from Raghav after saving his life?


The first time Raghav and Pallavi shared a bed was the May 26 episode, 3-4 weeks after he had dragged her into his car for forcible marriage. At the time, Pallavi's trick to make Raghav sleep in a chair was played as comedy, not in the context of his past invasions of her personal space. The later scene of Raghav gagging Pallavi and throwing her over his shoulder was also presented as comedy rather than a traumatic experience for a woman who had been restrained and transported against her will by this man three times before (counting the fake police kidnapping). The writing for the episodes shot in Hyderabad was different than the episodes shot in Kolhapur. So, Pallavi's attitude about sleeping in the same room with Raghav changed when they got back to the RR mansion.


In my fan fiction, after wearing the black dress for Raghav and almost kissing him, Pallavi admits that she is still terrified of him and not ready to feel his body all around hers. She has nightmares about being restrained by him and not being able to think clearly (e.g. not realizing that her hands are free to remove her gag). I think my version of the story is more responsibly written and more dramatic than having Pallavi fall in love as quickly as Raghav.


As for what Pallavi would have done with Mandar, it was mentioned on the show that she was waiting in Mandar's bedroom on their wedding night. Maybe that was just tradition, or maybe Pallavi felt that intimacy has to begin with some effort to share space.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

Hello, I am well; I am trying to stay hydrated as the days get hotter. I hope you are well too.


My interpretation of the June 26 episode's moving-into-his-bedroom scenes is that Pallavi was forcing herself to face her fear. Human nature isn't perfectly rational or self-preserving. Victims of violence don't always avoid the perpetrator or the scene of the crime; sometimes, they seek him/it out for reassurance that it won't happen again, or to prove that they're not afraid, or even to reimagine their mistreatment as a prank or a consensual interaction. And I must be clear (even if the dialogue and direction weren't): the situation was not that Pallavi felt bashful because she was inexperienced with whatmen in general. It was about Pallavi feeling physical attraction and sympathy and wanting intimacy with a man who had repeatedly invaded her personal space with aggressive behaviour, a man who had publicly lied about enjoying sex with her.


I don't find it weird that Pallavi's body language showed discomfort even as she was verbally agreeing to share a bedroom and share a bed. At that point, she had given up her desire to return to the Deshmukh family, and she had declared herself to be Raghav's wife. It was time to decide what kind of marriage it would be, and moving into the RR mansion gave Pallavi a choice: either claim her place in Raghav's bedroom right now, and work towards intimacy in spite of her discomfort, or lose this opportunity and stay in the habit of a sexless marriage. From the way Raghav talked, Pallavi might expect that if she didn't offer sex, he would find other women. So, Pallavi's hasty decision and lingering discomfort both make sense to me.


In the June 30 episode's scene of Pallavi waking up to find Raghav hugging her, I think she felt excited that she could sleep comfortably with him holding her and that he liked sleeping with her. It meant that her unease with Raghav wouldn't last forever, and someday they could have intimacy in their marriage. She was also happy to see Raghav sleeping peacefully after his agitated behaviour at the Vaṭa-Paurṇimā event.


If I had to make sense of Pallavi's behaviour on earlier occasions, when she shouldn't have felt safe with Raghav but she got closer anyway, I would guess that she was trying to convince herself not to be ruled by fear of him.


After Raghav threatened to run over Pallavi with his car, confined her with his body, and threatened to smash her mobile phone, Pallavi didn't have to meet him to pay him back for his keḷavaṇa "charity to the needy." She could have accepted it as compensation for the raw material that he had burned. Yet she went to the RR mansion and talked defiantly to his giant portrait and to him. The scene was played as comedy, but her bravado showed that she was trying not to be intimidated by Raghav's animosity.


That same night, Pallavi could have learned to stay away from Raghav when he carried her out of her house and tied her in front of a truck. Out of desperation to stop the bulldozer, she went to the RR mansion again, and Raghav kept her shivering for hours. Then (Pallavi thought) he had her kidnapped and tied up, and in fact he brought her to the RR mansion and kept her there overnight. After all of these traumatic experiences, it would have been natural for Pallavi to avoid the RR mansion. Instead, Pallavi visited Raghav's home to disrupt his pop-up display.


When Pallavi went to the RR mansion and dared Raghav to take back his complaint to the weavers' association and give her thirty days, she had to do it to survive. But when Raghav showed up at Manasi's maṅganī and fell on top of Pallavi, she didn't have to dance with him! Was she trying to reassure herself that he would behave in a crowd?


If that's what Pallavi thought, Raghav immediately disproved it by following her to her bedroom and trying to touch her blouse after she said no. After that, why did she accept his invitation to meet to discuss sarees for Jayati Jewels? Was it so important to act unflustered?


When Raghav refused to put on clothes for their meeting, Pallavi should have felt alarmed. Raghav might put his jacket over her torn sleeve and tell men not to look at her unhooked blouse, but when his mood changed, he would intimidate her with indecency. Yet Pallavi went to Raghav's house at night to embroider sarees. Was she so desperate to believe that she was safe from Raghav after saving his life?


The first time Raghav and Pallavi shared a bed was the May 26 episode, 3-4 weeks after he had dragged her into his car for forcible marriage. At the time, Pallavi's trick to make Raghav sleep in a chair was played as comedy, not in the context of his past invasions of her personal space. The later scene of Raghav gagging Pallavi and throwing her over his shoulder was also presented as comedy rather than a traumatic experience for a woman who had been restrained and transported against her will by this man three times before (counting the fake police kidnapping). The writing for the episodes shot in Hyderabad was different than the episodes shot in Kolhapur. So, Pallavi's attitude about sleeping in the same room with Raghav changed when they got back to the RR mansion.


In my fan fiction, after wearing the black dress for Raghav and almost kissing him, Pallavi admits that she is still terrified of him and not ready to feel his body all around hers. She has nightmares about being restrained by him and not being able to think clearly (e.g. not realizing that her hands are free to remove her gag). I think my version of the story is more responsibly written and more dramatic than having Pallavi fall in love as quickly as Raghav.


As for what Pallavi would have done with Mandar, it was mentioned on the show that she was waiting in Mandar's bedroom on their wedding night. Maybe that was just tradition, or maybe Pallavi felt that intimacy has to begin with some effort to share space.

Yeah I,m fine 🙂 and thanks for your reply

I read your post and i am sorry to say that i am not able to understand some of the things you said, in your interpretation of epi 114 and 117

Bold 1- what was her fear?

Bold 2-Was she afraid that raghav might try to get close to her without her consent?

Bold 3- this qus was always on my mind ke agar raghav Vijay Deshmukh ki Pallavi ko lekar misunderstandings dur kar deta to kya Pallavi wapis Deshmukh house rehne chali jati? And now you also said that Pallavi had given up her desire to return to d family bcs jab raghav Pallavi ko kolhapur Jane se rokta hai or use 30 days me uski family se wapis milane ka promise karta hai toh wo pallavi ko apni wife hone ke rights dene ki baat karta hai or wo nahi chahta ke Pallavi use chodkar jaye wo sirf ye chahta hai ke d family Pallavi ko phir se accept kar le as their daughter but jab necklace case ke time Vijay Pallavi ko apne sath le Jane ki baat karta hai to raghav Pallavi se kehta hai ke use ye chance miss nahi karna chahiye tha i don't understand ke raghav chahta kya tha

Bold 4- Pallavi or raghav dono jante the ke unki marriage ek deal hai and knowing this, Raghav had promised her all the rights of being a wife or Pallavi ko nahi pata tha ke raghav ka anjali ke sath ya or ladkiyon ke sath kaisa relation tha i mean ya toh Pallavi ko pata hota ke raghav ka kisi se physical relationship nahi tha phir toh use is baat ka darr hota ke agar un dono me physical relation nahi hua then raghav would find another woman but agar use lagta tha ke raghav ka pehle bhi ladkiyon ke sath physical relation raha hai toh phir toh wo pallavi ke sath physical relations hone ke baad bhi aisa kar sakta tha use Pallavi ke sath physical relation hone ya na hone se kya farak padta

So if you don't have any problem toh pehle please in baton ko lekar mere doubts clear kar do so that i can understand your interpretation regarding these epi,s better

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Posted: 2 years ago
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ManishaShah wrote:

Bold 1- what was her fear?

Fear of whatever an unpredictable and violent man might do when she was sleeping or intimate with him. Raghav had proved himself capable of gagging her, tying her up, shoving her, and threatening to kill her. The next time he misunderstood her, he could take photos and show them around, the way he showed photos of him and Anjali and said they were of him and Pallavi. Or, he could think of new ways to punish her for letting down her guard.

Bold 2-Was she afraid that raghav might try to get close to her without her consent?

Sure. At the very least, he would take off his own clothes to make fun of her. Or, Raghav could just show up drunk and smelly, and she would have to lie awake remembering his crude, cynical, demeaning words.

Bold 3- this qus was always on my mind ke agar raghav Vijay Deshmukh ki Pallavi ko lekar misunderstandings dur kar deta to kya Pallavi wapis Deshmukh house rehne chali jati? And now you also said that Pallavi had given up her desire to return to d family bcs jab raghav Pallavi ko kolhapur Jane se rokta hai or use 30 days me uski family se wapis milane ka promise karta hai toh wo pallavi ko apni wife hone ke rights dene ki baat karta hai or wo nahi chahta ke Pallavi use chodkar jaye wo sirf ye chahta hai ke d family Pallavi ko phir se accept kar le as their daughter but jab necklace case ke time Vijay Pallavi ko apne sath le Jane ki baat karta hai to raghav Pallavi se kehta hai ke use ye chance miss nahi karna chahiye tha i don't understand ke raghav chahta kya tha

Everything that you wrote is valid, and also Raghav promised that if he failed to reunite Pallavi with her family, he would give her a divorce. If Raghav felt remorse, releasing Pallavi from the forcible marriage should have been unconditional. And wouldn't Raghav's most persuasive arguments for Vijay to forgive Pallavi have been these? (1) "Pallavi didn't marry me for money; I forced her; she's an innocent victim of slander." (2) "Your daughter needs you to rescue her from me." (3) "I agree to divorce Pallavi and stay away from her family. No more jailing your son right after giving you a heart attack." I guess Raghav expressed what he wanted to Luṅgīvālā Raghav: "Pallavi isn't somebody else; she's my wife." So, Raghav tried to get forgiveness for Pallavi without letting her out of his shadow, and Pallavi had to give up because Vijay couldn't accept Pallavi with Raghav. Only when Vijay tried to rescue Pallavi from him, Raghav sacrificed what he wanted for what Pallavi wanted. Raghav knew what he wanted when he asked Pallavi if she would deny Mandar, and he knew he didn't deserve it when he told Pallavi that he hoped to be not a good husband but a good friend.

Bold 4- Pallavi or raghav dono jante the ke unki marriage ek deal hai and knowing this, Raghav had promised her all the rights of being a wife or Pallavi ko nahi pata tha ke raghav ka anjali ke sath ya or ladkiyon ke sath kaisa relation tha i mean ya toh Pallavi ko pata hota ke raghav ka kisi se physical relationship nahi tha phir toh use is baat ka darr hota ke agar un dono me physical relation nahi hua then raghav would find another woman but agar use lagta tha ke raghav ka pehle bhi ladkiyon ke sath physical relation raha hai toh phir toh wo pallavi ke sath physical relations hone ke baad bhi aisa kar sakta tha use Pallavi ke sath physical relation hone ya na hone se kya farak padta

You are right that a husband could try out his wife and move on, or even have simultaneous partners, but that is theoretically possible even with perfect premarital celibacy. Pallavi couldn't predict a good sex life, but Raghav had promised her a wife's rights, and this was her opportunity to accept the offer and act on her physical attraction to the man to whom she was legally bound. The show left it up to us to guess when Raghav was lying: when he bragged to Pallavi about his experience or when he didn't want Jaya to hear scandals about him. I revealed a surprising answer to Pallavi in my fan fiction (Chapter Twenty-Five). Pallavi probably believed what the news reported, because Raghav didn't deny it. So, in my previous post I wrote that Pallavi would think that Raghav is used to satisfying his sex drive, and if she doesn't claim him, eventually he will get tired of waiting for her.

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Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

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ManishaShah wrote:

Bold 1- what was her fear?

Fear of whatever an unpredictable and violent man might do when she was sleeping or intimate with him. Raghav had proved himself capable of gagging her, tying her up, shoving her, and threatening to kill her. The next time he misunderstood her, he could take photos and show them around, the way he showed photos of him and Anjali and said they were of him and Pallavi. Or, he could think of new ways to punish her for letting down her guard.

Bold 2-Was she afraid that raghav might try to get close to her without her consent?

Sure. At the very least, he would take off his own clothes to make fun of her. Or, Raghav could just show up drunk and smelly, and she would have to lie awake remembering his crude, cynical, demeaning words.

Bold 3- this qus was always on my mind ke agar raghav Vijay Deshmukh ki Pallavi ko lekar misunderstandings dur kar deta to kya Pallavi wapis Deshmukh house rehne chali jati? And now you also said that Pallavi had given up her desire to return to d family bcs jab raghav Pallavi ko kolhapur Jane se rokta hai or use 30 days me uski family se wapis milane ka promise karta hai toh wo pallavi ko apni wife hone ke rights dene ki baat karta hai or wo nahi chahta ke Pallavi use chodkar jaye wo sirf ye chahta hai ke d family Pallavi ko phir se accept kar le as their daughter but jab necklace case ke time Vijay Pallavi ko apne sath le Jane ki baat karta hai to raghav Pallavi se kehta hai ke use ye chance miss nahi karna chahiye tha i don't understand ke raghav chahta kya tha

Everything that you wrote is valid, and also Raghav promised that if he failed to reunite Pallavi with her family, he would give her a divorce. If Raghav felt remorse, releasing Pallavi from the forcible marriage should have been unconditional. And wouldn't Raghav's most persuasive arguments for Vijay to forgive Pallavi have been these? (1) "Pallavi didn't marry me for money; I forced her; she's an innocent victim of slander." (2) "Your daughter needs you to rescue her from me." (3) "I agree to divorce Pallavi and stay away from her family. No more jailing your son right after giving you a heart attack." I guess Raghav expressed what he wanted to Luṅgīvālā Raghav: "Pallavi isn't somebody else; she's my wife." So, Raghav tried to get forgiveness for Pallavi without letting her out of his shadow, and Pallavi had to give up because Vijay couldn't accept Pallavi with Raghav. Only when Vijay tried to rescue Pallavi from him, Raghav sacrificed what he wanted for what Pallavi wanted. Raghav knew what he wanted when he asked Pallavi if she would deny Mandar, and he knew he didn't deserve it when he told Pallavi that he hoped to be not a good husband but a good friend.

Bold 4- Pallavi or raghav dono jante the ke unki marriage ek deal hai and knowing this, Raghav had promised her all the rights of being a wife or Pallavi ko nahi pata tha ke raghav ka anjali ke sath ya or ladkiyon ke sath kaisa relation tha i mean ya toh Pallavi ko pata hota ke raghav ka kisi se physical relationship nahi tha phir toh use is baat ka darr hota ke agar un dono me physical relation nahi hua then raghav would find another woman but agar use lagta tha ke raghav ka pehle bhi ladkiyon ke sath physical relation raha hai toh phir toh wo pallavi ke sath physical relations hone ke baad bhi aisa kar sakta tha use Pallavi ke sath physical relation hone ya na hone se kya farak padta

You are right that a husband could try out his wife and move on, or even have simultaneous partners, but that is theoretically possible even with perfect premarital celibacy. Pallavi couldn't predict a good sex life, but Raghav had promised her a wife's rights, and this was her opportunity to accept the offer and act on her physical attraction to the man to whom she was legally bound. The show left it up to us to guess when Raghav was lying: when he bragged to Pallavi about his experience or when he didn't want Jaya to hear scandals about him. I revealed a surprising answer to Pallavi in my fan fiction (Chapter Twenty-Five). Pallavi probably believed what the news reported, because Raghav didn't deny it. So, in my previous post I wrote that Pallavi would think that Raghav is used to satisfying his sex drive, and if she doesn't claim him, eventually he will get tired of waiting for her.

I agree with you ke Pallavi ke mann me raghav ke liye feelings aane lagi thi but i don't think ke Pallavi ne raghav ke sath room share karne ka decision physical intimacy ke bare me sochkar liya tha i think ke usne ye decision sirf Jaya ke kehne par liya tha bcs abhi wo khud hi raghav ke liye apni feelings ko samjh nahi pa rahi thi but jab Jaya ne usse kaha ke ab staff unke relation ke bare me baat karne laga hai bcs they were living in separate rooms or wo nahi chahti ke bahar bhi sab is bare me baat kare toh Pallavi ko Jaya ka reason valid laga and that's why she agreed to live in the same room with him or use room share karne me itni problem bhi nahi thi but she was uncomfortable to share bed with him bcs usne kabhi kisi ke sath bed share nahi kiya tha and that,s why she was afraid ke pata nahi use kaisa feel hoga if raghav comes close to her or touches her while sleeping bcs jab raghav usse qus karta hai ke kya use raghav pe trust nahi hai toh Pallavi kehti hai ke aisa nahi hai that means ke Pallavi ko raghav par trust tha that he would not come close to her without her consent

But i found it weird when in epi 117 Pallavi doesn't feel uncomfortable when just after 1 day she finds raghav sleeping on her tummy by hugging her i mean just after one day itna change a gaya Pallavi me kuch din baad dikhate toh weird nahi lagta

Ya toh makers ye dikhana chahte the ke Pallavi ko suddenly realize hua ke use raghav ke touch karne se uncomfortable feel nahi hota rather it feels good or uska darr bewajah tha

And i think you are right ke raghav nahi chahta tha ke Pallavi d family ke paas wapis jaye wo sirf unki misunderstandings dur karna chahta tha or necklace case ke time usne sirf Pallavi ki khushi ke liye use Vijay ke sath Jane ke liye kaha tha but jab raghav ne Pallavi ko d family se phir se milane ka promise kiya tha kya tab raghav ne ye nahi socha ke agar Vijay ne Pallavi ko d family me phir se accept karne ke liye raghav ko divorce dene ke condition rakhi toh wo kya karega?

kya Pallavi bhi ye hi chahti thi ke agar raghav uske bare me Vijay ki misunderstanding clear kar deta hai toh wo raghav ke sath hi rahegi d house main rehne nahi jayegi? Bcs jab Vijay raghav ko uske pair dhone ke liye kehta hai toh Pallavi kehti hai ke use ab Pallavi Deshmukh nahi banna wo pallavi raghav rao bankar khush hai toh kya Pallavi pehle wapis d house jana chahti thi or Vijay ne jo raghav ke sath kiya bcs of that usne apna decision change kar diya or raghav ke sath rehne ka faisla kiya ?

Or jaisa apne kaha ke Pallavi khud physical intimacy chahti thi raghav ke sath toh agar aisa hota toh Pallavi ko uske sath room ya bed share karne me problem kyu hoti? Or agar use raghav ke pehle uske sath kiye behaviour se darr tha or use lagta tha ke rahhav phir se uske sath kuch aisa kar sakta hai toh that means ke use raghav par trust hi nahi tha or jis person par use trust nahi tha wo uske sath intimacy ke bare me kaise soch sakti hai?

Or agar raghav ke pehle ladkiyon ke sath physical relation the bhi toh is wajah se Pallavi ko physical intimacy offer karne ki kya zarurat thi bcs raghav usse intimacy expect kyu karta or uska wait kyu karta jab ke Pallavi ko wapis late waqt usne khud kaha tha ke wo uska acha friend bankar dikhayega bcs wo janta hai ke unki marriage ek deal hai or ye jante hue hi usne Pallavi ke sath forced marriage ko nibhane ka decision liya tha toh Pallavi ko is baat se darne ki zarurat nahi thi ke agar unke relation me intimacy nahi hogi toh raghav use chod dega and will find another woman

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Posted: 2 years ago
#68

Yes, Pallavi told Raghav that she didn't want the staff and everyone talking about their separate bedrooms, but was that her real motive? I doubt that such gossip would bother Pallavi, for these reasons:

1. At the wedding reception, Pallavi had threatened to turn the world against Raghav, meaning that she would ruin his image in the way that he had ruined hers. If public opinion didn't bother her then, or when she made Raghav move out of his bedroom, or when she left for Kolhapur, would respect for Jaya or sympathy for Raghav suddenly make her protective of his image?

2. Raghav had already told Pallavi's family and neighbours that she regularly visited him at night for sex before marriage. What better way to dispel that scandal than for everyone to know that they were sleeping apart after marriage?

3. Pallavi had felt terrible when she was accused of an abortion, but she learned to hold her head high. Pallavi even said to Asha, I'm the one accused, and let's leave it at that. If she could live with that scandal, would she care if the staff speculated that she snores?


Yes, Pallavi told Raghav that she trusts him, but was she telling the truth? Her body language suggested that it wasn't true yet, even if she wanted it to be true so that they could grow closer.


I assume that Pallavi wanted to be able to enjoy Raghav's embrace. If he had been awake when she awoke to find him on top of her, she might have been terrified, but seeing him asleep, she didn't feel threatened.


Raghav had promised Pallavi that if he failed, he would sign divorce papers, so he must have been aware that Pallavi might want a divorce even if he won the challenge. In the hypothetical situation of Vijay ordering Pallavi to divorce Raghav against her will, I think Raghav would have gotten drunk if Pallavi left him, and ignored her missing her family if she stayed with him.


When Pallavi left for Kolhapur, she said to Raghav that they had nothing but bad memories and hatred between them. I'm sure that she would have ended the marriage by contested divorce if necessary, and the promise of divorce by mutual consent was a factor in her decision to give Raghav thirty days. She didn't think Raghav would succeed, but if he did, she could return to the Deshmukh house and divorce him anyway. In my fan fiction, Pallavi tells Raghav that she stayed with him to punish him, and that if he had washed Vijay's feet, Vijay would have felt ashamed, and resented Raghav for that too, because he wasn't ready to forgive. However, the show wanted us to equate Vijay with the man who made Raghav's father lap up tea like a dog, and then Raghav wouldn't need actual redemption.


I may not be able to convince you that my interpretation is reasonable, but it is possible to dread someone's aggression and also feel physical attraction to him. Pallavi felt bad and wanted to feel good, so she took a step to get accustomed to Raghav as her husband.


Raghav had promised to give Pallavi a wife's rights, but Pallavi knew that Raghav was capable of going back on his vāgdānam. One time, he had told her that he didn't remember giving her thirty days, and she shouldn't trust what he says when he's drunk. So, Raghav might at first respect his marriage by not having extramarital affairs (regardless of any premarital affairs), but if Pallavi wanted sex with Raghav and didn't let him know, he could stray.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

Yes, Pallavi told Raghav that she didn't want the staff and everyone talking about their separate bedrooms, but was that her real motive? I doubt that such gossip would bother Pallavi, for these reasons:

1. At the wedding reception, Pallavi had threatened to turn the world against Raghav, meaning that she would ruin his image in the way that he had ruined hers. If public opinion didn't bother her then, or when she made Raghav move out of his bedroom, or when she left for Kolhapur, would respect for Jaya or sympathy for Raghav suddenly make her protective of his image?

2. Raghav had already told Pallavi's family and neighbours that she regularly visited him at night for sex before marriage. What better way to dispel that scandal than for everyone to know that they were sleeping apart after marriage?

3. Pallavi had felt terrible when she was accused of an abortion, but she learned to hold her head high. Pallavi even said to Asha, I'm the one accused, and let's leave it at that. If she could live with that scandal, would she care if the staff speculated that she snores?


Yes, Pallavi told Raghav that she trusts him, but was she telling the truth? Her body language suggested that it wasn't true yet, even if she wanted it to be true so that they could grow closer.


I assume that Pallavi wanted to be able to enjoy Raghav's embrace. If he had been awake when she awoke to find him on top of her, she might have been terrified, but seeing him asleep, she didn't feel threatened.


Raghav had promised Pallavi that if he failed, he would sign divorce papers, so he must have been aware that Pallavi might want a divorce even if he won the challenge. In the hypothetical situation of Vijay ordering Pallavi to divorce Raghav against her will, I think Raghav would have gotten drunk if Pallavi left him, and ignored her missing her family if she stayed with him.


When Pallavi left for Kolhapur, she said to Raghav that they had nothing but bad memories and hatred between them. I'm sure that she would have ended the marriage by contested divorce if necessary, and the promise of divorce by mutual consent was a factor in her decision to give Raghav thirty days. She didn't think Raghav would succeed, but if he did, she could return to the Deshmukh house and divorce him anyway. In my fan fiction, Pallavi tells Raghav that she stayed with him to punish him, and that if he had washed Vijay's feet, Vijay would have felt ashamed, and resented Raghav for that too, because he wasn't ready to forgive. However, the show wanted us to equate Vijay with the man who made Raghav's father lap up tea like a dog, and then Raghav wouldn't need actual redemption.


I may not be able to convince you that my interpretation is reasonable, but it is possible to dread someone's aggression and also feel physical attraction to him. Pallavi felt bad and wanted to feel good, so she took a step to get accustomed to Raghav as her husband.


Raghav had promised to give Pallavi a wife's rights, but Pallavi knew that Raghav was capable of going back on his vāgdānam. One time, he had told her that he didn't remember giving her thirty days, and she shouldn't trust what he says when he's drunk. So, Raghav might at first respect his marriage by not having extramarital affairs (regardless of any premarital affairs), but if Pallavi wanted sex with Raghav and didn't let him know, he could stray.

At the wedding reception when Pallavi threatened to ruin Raghav's image or when she made him move out of his room or when she left for Kolhapur, at that time they were enemies of eo and she hated him neither she had feelings for him nor she had accepted him as her husband toh wo kyu raghav ki image ke bare me ya staff or society kya kahenge ke bare me sochti but now she had accepted him as her husband and even had feelings for him toh wo uske bare me care karegi hi na and Pallavi was such a person jis ne hamesha khud se pehle apni family ke bare me socha hai that's why when she was accused of an abortion, she took the blame on herself to protect amruta from humiliation regardless of what people would think of her she had no other way but now the situation was completely different this time she had a way to stop people from speculating

And as for that scandal, now she was married to raghav and as i said earlier she had accepted this marriage as well so now there was no point in proving anything to people but i always felt jaiseRaghav ne sab ke samne Pallavi ka character defamation kiya tha waise hi use sab ke samne ye batana chahiye tha ke Pallavi was innocent and he lied about it but makers ne character defamation jaise issue ko bhi bahut lightly liya hai just like keerti and raghav,s mms

Pallavi used to respect Jaya just like she used to respect sharda and Vijay then if bcs of her respect for Jaya usne Jaya ki baat maan li then it,s not a big deal just like when Vijay asked her to stay in d house due to mandar,s health issue, she could not refuse him either

When Pallavi left for Kolhapur usne raghav se divorce ke bare me koi baat nahi ki or usne mangalsutra or sindur bhi pehna hua tha divorce ki baat sirf raghav ne ki thi and he was always afraid that if did not fulfill his promise, Pallavi would leave him or ye baat usne kai bar Pallavi se bhi kahi hai toh iska matlab toh ye hi hua na ke agar wo promise pura kar dega toh wo nahi jayegi or i don't think ke raghav ko lagta tha ke uske promise pura karne ke baad bhi Pallavi usse divorce le sakti hai bcs he was sure ke agar usne promise pura kar diya toh Pallavi nahi jayegi but Pallavi kya chahti thi ye surely nahi keh sakte bcs usne khud kabhi d house me wapis rehne ya na rehne ke bare me kuch nahi kaha even when Vijay asks raghav to wash his feet she tells Vijay that he is their son in law but at the same time she also says that she doesn't want to be Pallavi desmukh anymore, she is happy as Pallavi raghav rao toh uski ye baat confuse kar deti hai ke wo chahti kya thi

Actually makers ko clear karna chahiye tha ke Pallavi kya sochti thi even jab Pallavi ne hamesha ke liye rukne ka decision liya tha tab bhi Jaya ko ya raghav ko usse is bare me puchna chahiye tha ke usne ye decision kyu liya hai bcs agar ye pata chal jata ke Pallavi raghav ke sath apne relation ko lekar aage kya chahti hai toh uske raghav ke sath room share karne ka reason bhi clear ho jata

But yeah jaisa aapne kaha waisa bhi ho sakta hai ke Pallavi ke mann me raghav ke liye feelings toh aane lagi thi so may be wo sochti ho kya un dono ka relation bhi husband wife jaisa ho sakta hai or ye hi dekhne ke liye usne uncomfortable hote hue bhi Jaya ke kehne par raghav ke sath room share karne ka decision liya and she gets the answer when she finds raghav sleeping by hugging her and she feels happy about it bcs it was something, she didn't expect from herself

But after all this i didn't like that Pallavi needed Krishna to realize her love for Raghav bcs before that nail incident when Raghav tried to kiss her she had no problem with that but when Krishna tells her that she is in love with raghav, she refuses

So what was all that for Pallavi, that she was feeling for raghav?

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Members have commented in other topics that even when the plot dictates that a woman intends or pretends to seek a divorce, such as when Pallavi put on an act for Mandar, she goes on wearing sindūra and mangalasūtra.


Allegedly, the producers are afraid that their target audience will shun them if the heroine doesn't physically appear devoted to her husband at all times.


So, Pallavi could have wanted a divorce while wearing sindūra and mangalasūtra after leaving Raghav for Kolhapur. You never really know.

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