Raghav and Pallavi - walking backwards along the road to romance - Page 5

Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

I don't think this has been discussed before ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGA3Ka9Baq8

Supreet Nikam, the actor who played Vishnu, said in an interview on July 23, 2021 (starting around 17:23 mark), that we would see a love track for Vishnu! That was what he had been told to expect, and he didn't think it would change.

He also said that (starting around 20:58 mark) that we would see the bonding between Raghav - er - Mandar and Vishnu as "next level."

And he said (starting around 25:33 mark) that yes, with Mandar's entry a love triangle is predictable, but there would be a twist.

Hi how are you😊

As far as it is concerned, we all know that after starting mandar track, makers themselves forgot what they wanted to show in this track and when fans and viewers rejected the track, they abruptly ended it with so many unresolved questions

Originally posted by: ManishaShah

Hi how are you😊

As far as it is concerned, we all know that after starting mandar track, makers themselves forgot what they wanted to show in this track and when fans and viewers rejected the track, they abruptly ended it with so many unresolved questions

I am very well. How are you?

Thanks for replying. Yes, we all know that after months of Vijay remembering Mandar fondly, we got hints that Mandar was terrified of Vijay, then Mandar's self-harm for attention, an announcement that the track was changed, and some pointless hide-and-seek ending with the ruin of Sharada. You say the makers "forgot;" I suspect that story ideas were getting approved and overruled one after another, and "viewer backlash" was just an excuse for the makers' internal discord. I was curious: what was so terrible that they didn't dare to show us? When I found information that I hadn't known before, I shared.

After listening to the interview, I feel sympathy for the actors. It's never a secure profession, but ... Supreet Nikam said that without any audition, he was called in Sangli at 11 am to begin shooting the same day in Kolhapur. Who knows if the casting team urgently needed to replace another actor for Vishnu, or the story was written in such a hurry that they couldn't audition anyone! Mr. Nikam was informed that his character would have a love track, and he commuted between cities for this job, his first Hindi serial. And around July 23, when he gave this interview urging everyone to watch his upcoming scenes, probably the decision had already been made to let him go, discard whatever scenes he had shot, and reduce Ashok Phaldesai's four months' job into barely two months.

Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

I am very well. How are you?

Thanks for replying. Yes, we all know that after months of Vijay remembering Mandar fondly, we got hints that Mandar was terrified of Vijay, then Mandar's self-harm for attention, an announcement that the track was changed, and some pointless hide-and-seek ending with the ruin of Sharada. You say the makers "forgot;" I suspect that story ideas were getting approved and overruled one after another, and "viewer backlash" was just an excuse for the makers' internal discord. I was curious: what was so terrible that they didn't dare to show us? When I found information that I hadn't known before, I shared.

After listening to the interview, I feel sympathy for the actors. It's never a secure profession, but ... Supreet Nikam said that without any audition, he was called in Sangli at 11 am to begin shooting the same day in Kolhapur. Who knows if the casting team urgently needed to replace another actor for Vishnu, or the story was written in such a hurry that they couldn't audition anyone! Mr. Nikam was informed that his character would have a love track, and he commuted between cities for this job, his first Hindi serial. And around July 23, when he gave this interview urging everyone to watch his upcoming scenes, probably the decision had already been made to let him go, discard whatever scenes he had shot, and reduce Ashok Phaldesai's four months' job into barely two months.

I am also fine. thanks

Yeah they changed the story many times first they showed that Pallavi and mandar met at the matrimonial site and later they made mandar a psycho lover who killed her best friend then by showing sharda knew everything about mandar, they ruined her character too i mean he fell in the pit in front of her and after coming back home how she behaved normally till the family members came to know about his death not only this where did he go from hospital, his connection with ved and that Dr, all remained unresolved

I think makers could not handle the show after forced marriage track they turned a post marriage revenge story into romantic comedy then they rushed their falling in love phase and same happened in this track, they started it but couldn't handle it and kept changing the story

I'm overthinking, I know, but Raghav's behaviour between bailing Kirti and Jaya and defaming Pallavi was more erratic than his usual mood swings.

When Jagadish's unnamed son told Raghav that Pallavi had sent him to deliver Kirti's photos to Jaya's house, Raghav didn't believe it. Why not? When Jagadish's son delivered the parcel to Jaya, he said that it was from Pallavi. Wouldn't Jaya have told Raghav what the messenger said, and that the "obscene" photos were hidden behind legitimate photos from Pallavi's photo shoot? Wouldn't Raghav think back to when he went to court to bail Jaya and Kirti, and Pallavi stood in his way, saying that she wouldn't let him win? Had Raghav forgotten about Pallavi telling him that she would punish him, and that he would cry when someone dear to him suffered what her sisters had suffered?

To be fair to Raghav, other details of that scene didn't make sense either. Farhad said that he identified Jagadish's son from the CCTV near Jaya's house, and he always walks home along this road. How is it possible to identify one man out of all of Hyderabad just from a CCTV recording, let alone access his GPS location history? If Jaya's neighbourhood is so run-down that Raghav wasn't surprised that she got food poisoning, whose CCTV is it? And if the CCTV caught Jagadish's son going to Jaya's door, why didn't it catch him talking to Sulochana just a few steps away, with her car window rolled all the way down? Moreover, when Jagadish's son told Raghav to ask the office for the sender's name, Raghav said that he already checked, and the name and address were both fake. Since Raghav was able to trace the parcel to the office and get information about the sender, wouldn't that be the easiest way to find the messenger, not by CCTV?

Back to Raghav's erratic behaviour ... When Jagadish's son insisted that Pallavi wanted revenge for Raghav's offence against her sister, Raghav fired his gun into the air, yelling "Pallavi Deshmukh!" Yet the next episode began with Raghav in his bedroom, hallucinating Pallavi and saying that he knows she could never do this; in all of their fights, she never stooped so low; Jagadish's son lied; someone is framing Pallavi. Well, Raghav, you recently caught someone framing Pallavi. Who was it? And if Pallavi never stooped so low in your fights, did you just admit that she didn't drug your food so that Anjali could violate you?

That scene ended when Farhad found Raghav clutching air as he tried to choke Pallavi. The very next scene was Raghav with Farhad in his den, throwing knives instead of darts at a dartboard, where they miraculously rearranged into an X on a photo of Pallavi that hadn't been there. Raghav insisted on calling Jaya to ask when those photos were taken of Kirti undressed. Why? Wouldn't Kirti have told him already that she wasn't assaulted or seduced, just spied upon as she changed sarees at Pallavi's photo shoot, from which the other photos in the parcel came?

Then Raghav asked Farhad, what's Pallavi's assistant's name? Raghav had known the answer when he told Farhad to call "Krishna" to Dr. Kanika's office. Ostensibly, Raghav went to meet Krishna to tell her that he respects Pallavi, he wants to say he's sorry, he wants to support her ... lies that he could have told to Pallavi directly, but never did. It would have been a throwaway scene, except that Krishna for no reason told Raghav about the fake accounts, and instead of his usual three-piece suit, Raghav was luckily wearing an untucked shirt so that he could slip the "fake accounts kā book" inside. Shouldn't Raghav have looked for the "asalī accounts kā book" instead?

No matter what tricks Raghav had planned against Pallavi, how could he think to convince her of his sincerity while acting carefree and gracious when they met, as if his sister and mother weren't going through the worst experience of their lives? Raghav believed that Pallavi knew that Kirti and Jaya were taken to jail, and that embarrassing photos of Kirti were being ogled on Photogram, because it was Pallavi's revenge and her intention was to hurt Raghav. Wouldn't Raghav imagine that Pallavi expected him to be in a bad mood, even if he didn't suspect her?

And from Raghav's point of view, why wouldn't Pallavi expect Raghav to suspect her? Kirti's disgrace matched Pallavi's promise to teach Raghav a lesson. Even if Raghav didn't know that the parcel was delivered in Pallavi's name, as if she was proud to claim responsibility, did Raghav have a reason to believe that Jagadish's son hadn't warned Pallavi that he had told Raghav her name? The last time they had met, Raghav had almost struck Pallavi in the face, and he had actually shoved her out of his way to Jaya's and Kirti's bail hearing. How could Raghav smile at Pallavi, offer her orange juice, sit quietly while she read the contract, shake hands with her, and not expect her to find it suspicious that he wasn't devastated by her revenge?

It's amazing that the creative team was able to assemble any kind of story, considering that scenes shot in Kolhapur (e.g. Raghav and Krishna in the saree shop, Raghav drinking in the RR mansion after Pallavi's party, Kirti finding Pallavi outside the saree shop while Vijay was having a heart attack) had to be juxtaposed with scenes shot in Hyderabad (e.g. Pallavi meeting Raghav in a restaurant, Pallavi's party at Janakamma's house, hospital scenes after Vijay's heart attack). For the scene of Raghav driving to Pallavi's party, they ran out of time, and just used old footage of Raghav driving to Manasi's saṃgīta, which is why he's wearing the "traditional" costume of black garbage bag material instead of the suit in which he arrived at the party, and he's smiling as he thinks of Jaya and Kirti in jail.

You are right. If we sit back and contemplate objectively this was a show specially with regards to what a woman might want or what she needs or rather how she is portrayed. I will draw a parallel with Sickand's former show which I used to watch prior to MHRW.

*edited by DT*

The plot devices had no credibility and the usage was so crass that it was jarring. Exactly like what happened in mhrw.

*edited by DT*

This idea of the lead pair ( the FL is almost every case majorly) of being 'pure' which is suggestive of their virginity is just fan service at this point. I have actually seen people favouring this kind of inclination towards relationships even when they make headcannons or write fanfictions.

Its kinda sad how women (and men) are portrayed in Indian Television.

PS: strike off for unnecessary domestic physical violence and normalizing it which is a Sickand speciality as I've seen. The sheer number of slaps the characters have bestowed upon each other on trivial and either matters is staggering. Verbal condemnation is okay but physically hitting someone even if that's a man is not something I personally can accept.

Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

I'm overthinking, I know, but Raghav's behaviour between bailing Kirti and Jaya and defaming Pallavi was more erratic than his usual mood swings.

When Jagadish's unnamed son told Raghav that Pallavi had sent him to deliver Kirti's photos to Jaya's house, Raghav didn't believe it. Why not? When Jagadish's son delivered the parcel to Jaya, he said that it was from Pallavi. Wouldn't Jaya have told Raghav what the messenger said, and that the "obscene" photos were hidden behind legitimate photos from Pallavi's photo shoot? Wouldn't Raghav think back to when he went to court to bail Jaya and Kirti, and Pallavi stood in his way, saying that she wouldn't let him win? Had Raghav forgotten about Pallavi telling him that she would punish him, and that he would cry when someone dear to him suffered what her sisters had suffered?

To be fair to Raghav, other details of that scene didn't make sense either. Farhad said that he identified Jagadish's son from the CCTV near Jaya's house, and he always walks home along this road. How is it possible to identify one man out of all of Hyderabad just from a CCTV recording, let alone access his GPS location history? If Jaya's neighbourhood is so run-down that Raghav wasn't surprised that she got food poisoning, whose CCTV is it? And if the CCTV caught Jagadish's son going to Jaya's door, why didn't it catch him talking to Sulochana just a few steps away, with her car window rolled all the way down? Moreover, when Jagadish's son told Raghav to ask the office for the sender's name, Raghav said that he already checked, and the name and address were both fake. Since Raghav was able to trace the parcel to the office and get information about the sender, wouldn't that be the easiest way to find the messenger, not by CCTV?

Back to Raghav's erratic behaviour ... When Jagadish's son insisted that Pallavi wanted revenge for Raghav's offence against her sister, Raghav fired his gun into the air, yelling "Pallavi Deshmukh!" Yet the next episode began with Raghav in his bedroom, hallucinating Pallavi and saying that he knows she could never do this; in all of their fights, she never stooped so low; Jagadish's son lied; someone is framing Pallavi. Well, Raghav, you recently caught someone framing Pallavi. Who was it? And if Pallavi never stooped so low in your fights, did you just admit that she didn't drug your food so that Anjali could violate you?

That scene ended when Farhad found Raghav clutching air as he tried to choke Pallavi. The very next scene was Raghav with Farhad in his den, throwing knives instead of darts at a dartboard, where they miraculously rearranged into an X on a photo of Pallavi that hadn't been there. Raghav insisted on calling Jaya to ask when those photos were taken of Kirti undressed. Why? Wouldn't Kirti have told him already that she wasn't assaulted or seduced, just spied upon as she changed sarees at Pallavi's photo shoot, from which the other photos in the parcel came?

Then Raghav asked Farhad, what's Pallavi's assistant's name? Raghav had known the answer when he told Farhad to call "Krishna" to Dr. Kanika's office. Ostensibly, Raghav went to meet Krishna to tell her that he respects Pallavi, he wants to say he's sorry, he wants to support her ... lies that he could have told to Pallavi directly, but never did. It would have been a throwaway scene, except that Krishna for no reason told Raghav about the fake accounts, and instead of his usual three-piece suit, Raghav was luckily wearing an untucked shirt so that he could slip the "fake accounts kā book" inside. Shouldn't Raghav have looked for the "asalī accounts kā book" instead?

No matter what tricks Raghav had planned against Pallavi, how could he think to convince her of his sincerity while acting carefree and gracious when they met, as if his sister and mother weren't going through the worst experience of their lives? Raghav believed that Pallavi knew that Kirti and Jaya were taken to jail, and that embarrassing photos of Kirti were being ogled on Photogram, because it was Pallavi's revenge and her intention was to hurt Raghav. Wouldn't Raghav imagine that Pallavi expected him to be in a bad mood, even if he didn't suspect her?

And from Raghav's point of view, why wouldn't Pallavi expect Raghav to suspect her? Kirti's disgrace matched Pallavi's promise to teach Raghav a lesson. Even if Raghav didn't know that the parcel was delivered in Pallavi's name, as if she was proud to claim responsibility, did Raghav have a reason to believe that Jagadish's son hadn't warned Pallavi that he had told Raghav her name? The last time they had met, Raghav had almost struck Pallavi in the face, and he had actually shoved her out of his way to Jaya's and Kirti's bail hearing. How could Raghav smile at Pallavi, offer her orange juice, sit quietly while she read the contract, shake hands with her, and not expect her to find it suspicious that he wasn't devastated by her revenge?

It's amazing that the creative team was able to assemble any kind of story, considering that scenes shot in Kolhapur (e.g. Raghav and Krishna in the saree shop, Raghav drinking in the RR mansion after Pallavi's party, Kirti finding Pallavi outside the saree shop while Vijay was having a heart attack) had to be juxtaposed with scenes shot in Hyderabad (e.g. Pallavi meeting Raghav in a restaurant, Pallavi's party at Janakamma's house, hospital scenes after Vijay's heart attack). For the scene of Raghav driving to Pallavi's party, they ran out of time, and just used old footage of Raghav driving to Manasi's saṃgīta, which is why he's wearing the "traditional" costume of black garbage bag material instead of the suit in which he arrived at the party, and he's smiling as he thinks of Jaya and Kirti in jail.

Whatever you have written in this post is absolutely correct but it,s not just about these episodes, rather there are many unanswered questions related to each track throughout the show

Bold- but i did not understand one thing ke wo kis office ke bare me baat karte hain jab wo ladka kehta hai ke use office se jo parcel mila tha wo hi usne deliver kiya or raghav kehta hai ke office me fake name or address hai? Bcs wo ladka courier boy toh tha nahi or ye baat raghav bhi janta tha

Please explain

In that scene of Raghav threatening to shoot the boy, they only said "office," and I guess they were referring to a business that offers photo printing and delivery services.

The boy's first scene (beginning of April 19 episode, I think) had him sitting in an office, talking on the phone with Sulochana. He said that Nānna (his father) was out of town but he could do her work equally well, being Jagadish Aṇṇā's son. The work was to print the photos of Kirti undressed that Sulochana had posted on Photogram, slip them inside a catalog from Pallavi's photo shoot, deliver the parcel to Jaya, saying that Pallavi had sent it, get caught by Raghav, and pretend to be reluctant to say that Pallavi did it for revenge.

In an earlier scene (March 1 episode, perhaps), Jagadish was sitting with his laptop in the office for Q Report TV, telling Pallavi that tomorrow's newspaper would describe her as a fraud. Pallavi went there to meet Jagadish, and bumped into Anjali before she blackmailed Jagadish about his furniture shop. A conversation between Farhad and Raghav told us that Anjali and Pallavi met outside a news agency office.

So, putting all of that together, a tenuous conjecture is that Jagadish's son works at a news agency office (TV and newspaper combined!) that also offers photo printing and delivery services, and that's why Jagadish gets to sit there. Like everything else, it was never made clear on the show!

I guess the writers' reason for identifying the boy as Jagadish's son was that they planned to bring Jagadish back into the story. Maybe they even planned to have Jagadish deliver the photos and get caught by Raghav and Farhad, but they couldn't get the actor, so they decided to give Jagadish a son.

At first I thought that maybe the scenes were shot in Hyderabad and the actor playing Jagadish was left behind in Kolhapur. However, I suspect that the actor playing Jagadish's son is Kolhapur-based, because I saw him playing a seller of glass bangles on Ābhāḷācī Māyā, a Marathi TV show that I believe is shot in Kolhapur.

Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

In that scene of Raghav threatening to shoot the boy, they only said "office," and I guess they were referring to a business that offers photo printing and delivery services.

The boy's first scene (beginning of April 19 episode, I think) had him sitting in an office, talking on the phone with Sulochana. He said that Nānna (his father) was out of town but he could do her work equally well, being Jagadish Aṇṇā's son. The work was to print the photos of Kirti undressed that Sulochana had posted on Photogram, slip them inside a catalog from Pallavi's photo shoot, deliver the parcel to Jaya, saying that Pallavi had sent it, get caught by Raghav, and pretend to be reluctant to say that Pallavi did it for revenge.

In an earlier scene (March 1 episode, perhaps), Jagadish was sitting with his laptop in the office for Q Report TV, telling Pallavi that tomorrow's newspaper would describe her as a fraud. Pallavi went there to meet Jagadish, and bumped into Anjali before she blackmailed Jagadish about his furniture shop. A conversation between Farhad and Raghav told us that Anjali and Pallavi met outside a news agency office.

So, putting all of that together, a tenuous conjecture is that Jagadish's son works at a news agency office (TV and newspaper combined!) that also offers photo printing and delivery services, and that's why Jagadish gets to sit there. Like everything else, it was never made clear on the show!

I guess the writers' reason for identifying the boy as Jagadish's son was that they planned to bring Jagadish back into the story. Maybe they even planned to have Jagadish deliver the photos and get caught by Raghav and Farhad, but they couldn't get the actor, so they decided to give Jagadish a son.

At first I thought that maybe the scenes were shot in Hyderabad and the actor playing Jagadish was left behind in Kolhapur. However, I suspect that the actor playing Jagadish's son is Kolhapur-based, because I saw him playing a seller of glass bangles on Ābhāḷācī Māyā, a Marathi TV show that I believe is shot in Kolhapur.

Thanks for this explanation 😊

I was also watching these epi,s yesterday or mujhe ye bahut weird laga that after returning from jail, Jaya told Raghav that there were so many people present there on the day of photoshoot or unme se kisi ne aisa kiya hoga toh kya unhone ye nahi socha ke phir wo pics Pallavi ki album ke sath kaise thi agar Pallavi ya uski family me se koi nahi tha toh uske paas wo album kaise aayi?

Or kya sulochna ko ye pata nahi tha ke agar police involve hogi toh investigation bhi hogi or what if Raghav handed the boy over to the police?toh kya usne us ladke ko police ke samne bhi Pallavi ka naam lene ke liye nahi kaha and why did not that boy take Pallavi's name in front of police?

Wo ladka Jaya se kehta hai ke Pallavi ne parcel bheja hai agar Sulochana ne office me fake address likhwaya tha toh Jaya ke samne Pallavi ka naam kyu liya bcs agar wo pallavi par blame dal rahi thi toh Pallavi apne naam se parcel kyu bhejegi? Or agar wo Pallavi ka naam nahi bhi leta to kya Jaya wo parcel nahi dekhti? Waise kya parcel par bhejne wale ka address nahi hota bcs phir toh wahan bhi fake address hi hota ab ek taraf Pallavi fake address degi or dusri taraf khud apna name mention karegi ye Sulochana ka kaisa plan tha? Kuch samjh nahi aata

My replies in green.

ManishaShah wrote:

Thanks for this explanation 😊

You're welcome, and thanks for bringing up questions about the show. Just for fun, I'll try to come up with answers to your points.

ManishaShah wrote:

I was also watching these epi,s yesterday or mujhe ye bahut weird laga that after returning from jail, Jaya told Raghav that there were so many people present there on the day of photoshoot or unme se kisi ne aisa kiya hoga toh kya unhone ye nahi socha ke phir wo pics Pallavi ki album ke sath kaise thi agar Pallavi ya uski family me se koi nahi tha toh uske paas wo album kaise aayi?

Nikhil uploaded the photos from the photo shoot to Photogram. Anyone could have downloaded those photos and printed a catalog. Although it looked like a photo album, they used the word "catalog" on the show. Deshmukh Saree Emporium already had a catalog that Pallavi showed to Raghav's customers when she crashed the pop-up display of jewelry at Raghav's house. So, maybe Pallavi actually sent the catalog to Kirti from the "office" that always printed it for her, and an unidentified person (Sulochana) got Jagadish's son to print the undressed photos and stuff them into that parcel.

ManishaShah wrote:

Or kya sulochna ko ye pata nahi tha ke agar police involve hogi toh investigation bhi hogi or what if Raghav handed the boy over to the police?toh kya usne us ladke ko police ke samne bhi Pallavi ka naam lene ke liye nahi kaha and why did not that boy take Pallavi's name in front of police?

I'm not an expert on Indian law enforcement, but at least on TV, it seems that police investigations start when a complaint (FIR) is made against an identified person. Indian movie trials (not sure about TV) often end with someone other than the defendant being convicted of a crime without an indictment, but I don't think courts do that in the real world. So, the police investigated the tip that Jaya Rao is a pimp and arrested her and Kirti, and the court would rule that the evidence was insufficient, case closed. If Jaya or Kirti (or Raghav) made an FIR against Pallavi Deshmukh for defamation, the police would arrest Pallavi, and the court might convict Pallavi because Sulochana, Amruta, Asha, Rahul, and maybe Dr. Kanika heard her say that she would punish Raghav. Even if Pallavi alleged that someone had framed her, she would probably have to name someone in the FIR before police would take it seriously.

Sulochana's character is like that: she devises elaborate and expensive schemes to hurt one person and implicate another, but doesn't think ahead to the part where her victim retaliates against her. It was Sulochana's dumb luck that Raghav hadn't identified his mother and sister to the police as VIPs, and Raghav-bribed Inspector Swami wasn't in charge. So, Sulochana got her revenge against Raghav in three phases: violate his sister's privacy, splash the photos on Photogram, and tip off the police so that Jaya's and Kirti's neighbours see them getting arrested. She couldn't have known that Raghav would question Jagadish's son himself instead of having the police torture him, but probably her instructions were the same in either case: pretend to know nothing, then say that Pallavi did it for revenge, and leave Hyderabad for 4-5 weeks.

The show never told us who tipped off the police or how - Sulochana herself from a phone booth? When a new actor wearing Inspector Swami's name tag reported that they caught "the man who leaked photos of your sister," Raghav flashed back to pointing his gun at Jagadish's son, and Farhad said that they already spoke to that boy. So, we could guess that Jagadish's son returned to Hyderabad after only 3 weeks, and he got caught. In my fan fiction (Chapter Twenty-Four), I wrote that the police came to Jagadish's house to question his son who had previously gone to the police to report Jaya and Kirti. Why did he name Sulochana instead of Pallavi? Maybe because he realized that the police still investigating after a few weeks meant that the matter was serious, and naming Pallavi might provoke her criminal husband to shoot him. Of course, this is just my speculation.

ManishaShah wrote:

Wo ladka Jaya se kehta hai ke Pallavi ne parcel bheja hai agar Sulochana ne office me fake address likhwaya tha toh Jaya ke samne Pallavi ka naam kyu liya bcs agar wo pallavi par blame dal rahi thi toh Pallavi apne naam se parcel kyu bhejegi? Or agar wo Pallavi ka naam nahi bhi leta to kya Jaya wo parcel nahi dekhti? Waise kya parcel par bhejne wale ka address nahi hota bcs phir toh wahan bhi fake address hi hota ab ek taraf Pallavi fake address degi or dusri taraf khud apna name mention karegi ye Sulochana ka kaisa plan tha? Kuch samjh nahi aata

As I wrote above, maybe Pallavi actually gave the office an order to print and deliver catalogs. Sulochana just told Jagadish's son to record a fake name and address at the office for the extra photos that he printed and slipped into the catalog being delivered to Kirti. The parcel probably had the print-and-deliver office's address (which is how Raghav found the office), and maybe Pallavi's name and address, but not any fake name and address for the extra photos hidden inside. Even if Jaya accepted the parcel without knowing who sent it, she would have assumed that such a catalog came only from Pallavi. So, I guess Sulochana wanted Raghav to look for the person who hijacked Pallavi's parcel for Kirti and stuffed extra photos in it, and then Jagadish's son would tell Raghav that Pallavi used a fake name and address to make it look like someone else when it was all her own plan.

Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

My replies in green.

ManishaShah wrote:

Thanks for this explanation 😊

You're welcome, and thanks for bringing up questions about the show. Just for fun, I'll try to come up with answers to your points.

ManishaShah wrote:

I was also watching these epi,s yesterday or mujhe ye bahut weird laga that after returning from jail, Jaya told Raghav that there were so many people present there on the day of photoshoot or unme se kisi ne aisa kiya hoga toh kya unhone ye nahi socha ke phir wo pics Pallavi ki album ke sath kaise thi agar Pallavi ya uski family me se koi nahi tha toh uske paas wo album kaise aayi?

Nikhil uploaded the photos from the photo shoot to Photogram. Anyone could have downloaded those photos and printed a catalog. Although it looked like a photo album, they used the word "catalog" on the show. Deshmukh Saree Emporium already had a catalog that Pallavi showed to Raghav's customers when she crashed the pop-up display of jewelry at Raghav's house. So, maybe Pallavi actually sent the catalog to Kirti from the "office" that always printed it for her, and an unidentified person (Sulochana) got Jagadish's son to print the undressed photos and stuff them into that parcel.

ManishaShah wrote:

Or kya sulochna ko ye pata nahi tha ke agar police involve hogi toh investigation bhi hogi or what if Raghav handed the boy over to the police?toh kya usne us ladke ko police ke samne bhi Pallavi ka naam lene ke liye nahi kaha and why did not that boy take Pallavi's name in front of police?

I'm not an expert on Indian law enforcement, but at least on TV, it seems that police investigations start when a complaint (FIR) is made against an identified person. Indian movie trials (not sure about TV) often end with someone other than the defendant being convicted of a crime without an indictment, but I don't think courts do that in the real world. So, the police investigated the tip that Jaya Rao is a pimp and arrested her and Kirti, and the court would rule that the evidence was insufficient, case closed. If Jaya or Kirti (or Raghav) made an FIR against Pallavi Deshmukh for defamation, the police would arrest Pallavi, and the court might convict Pallavi because Sulochana, Amruta, Asha, Rahul, and maybe Dr. Kanika heard her say that she would punish Raghav. Even if Pallavi alleged that someone had framed her, she would probably have to name someone in the FIR before police would take it seriously.

Sulochana's character is like that: she devises elaborate and expensive schemes to hurt one person and implicate another, but doesn't think ahead to the part where her victim retaliates against her. It was Sulochana's dumb luck that Raghav hadn't identified his mother and sister to the police as VIPs, and Raghav-bribed Inspector Swami wasn't in charge. So, Sulochana got her revenge against Raghav in three phases: violate his sister's privacy, splash the photos on Photogram, and tip off the police so that Jaya's and Kirti's neighbours see them getting arrested. She couldn't have known that Raghav would question Jagadish's son himself instead of having the police torture him, but probably her instructions were the same in either case: pretend to know nothing, then say that Pallavi did it for revenge, and leave Hyderabad for 4-5 weeks.

The show never told us who tipped off the police or how - Sulochana herself from a phone booth? When a new actor wearing Inspector Swami's name tag reported that they caught "the man who leaked photos of your sister," Raghav flashed back to pointing his gun at Jagadish's son, and Farhad said that they already spoke to that boy. So, we could guess that Jagadish's son returned to Hyderabad after only 3 weeks, and he got caught. In my fan fiction (Chapter Twenty-Four), I wrote that the police came to Jagadish's house to question his son who had previously gone to the police to report Jaya and Kirti. Why did he name Sulochana instead of Pallavi? Maybe because he realized that the police still investigating after a few weeks meant that the matter was serious, and naming Pallavi might provoke her criminal husband to shoot him. Of course, this is just my speculation.

ManishaShah wrote:

Wo ladka Jaya se kehta hai ke Pallavi ne parcel bheja hai agar Sulochana ne office me fake address likhwaya tha toh Jaya ke samne Pallavi ka naam kyu liya bcs agar wo pallavi par blame dal rahi thi toh Pallavi apne naam se parcel kyu bhejegi? Or agar wo Pallavi ka naam nahi bhi leta to kya Jaya wo parcel nahi dekhti? Waise kya parcel par bhejne wale ka address nahi hota bcs phir toh wahan bhi fake address hi hota ab ek taraf Pallavi fake address degi or dusri taraf khud apna name mention karegi ye Sulochana ka kaisa plan tha? Kuch samjh nahi aata

As I wrote above, maybe Pallavi actually gave the office an order to print and deliver catalogs. Sulochana just told Jagadish's son to record a fake name and address at the office for the extra photos that he printed and slipped into the catalog being delivered to Kirti. The parcel probably had the print-and-deliver office's address (which is how Raghav found the office), and maybe Pallavi's name and address, but not any fake name and address for the extra photos hidden inside. Even if Jaya accepted the parcel without knowing who sent it, she would have assumed that such a catalog came only from Pallavi. So, I guess Sulochana wanted Raghav to look for the person who hijacked Pallavi's parcel for Kirti and stuffed extra photos in it, and then Jagadish's son would tell Raghav that Pallavi used a fake name and address to make it look like someone else when it was all her own plan.

Hello, I want to tell you ke jab ye epi,s on air hue the tabhi mujhe sab kuch bahut confusing laga tha but at that time maine IF join nahi kiya tha so that,s why main discuss nahi kar payi about these epi,s but when you come up with some questions regarding these epi,s i also got a chance to clear my doubts or aisa hua bhi you gave a very good explanation to my questions but i still can't understand that what was the need to keep keerti,s undressed pics with Pallavi's photoshoot pics? I mean if Sulochana wanted to put the blame on Pallavi toh wo sirf keerti ki undressed photos, fake name or address office me record karwa kar bhej sakti thi or wo ladka Raghav se keh sakta tha ke Pallavi ne aisa kiya hai bcs Pallavi ke catalog ke sath wo pics aane se na toh Jaya keerti or na raghav ne Pallavi ko blame kiya

Bold- jaisa ke aapne kaha hai ke sulochana chahti thi that raghav looked for a person who hijacked Pallavi's parcel and put extra photos in it and after that Jagadish's son would tell him that it was Pallavi's own plan but what was the need to do all this? Pallavi fake name or address se sirf wo pics bhi toh bhej sakti thi catalog ki kya zarurat thi or agar Pallavi ne same office ko catalog printing ja order diya bhi tha or Sulochana ne us ladke ko Pallavi ke parcel me wo pics rakhne ko kaha tha toh bhi blame toh phir bhi Pallavi par nahi aaya jab tak Raghav ko fake name or address ka pata nahi chala or us ladke ne Pallavi ka naam nahi liya tab tak kisi ko Pallavi par doubt nahi hua toh aisa toh Sulochana undressed pics ko separately bhej kar bhi kar sakti thi

And i want to know ke raghav ka fake name or address ke bare me pata chalne ke baad us ladke ko suspect karna kya sahi tha? I mean agar koi fake identity ke sath photos printing or delivert ka order deta hai toh kya isse ye prove ho jata hai ke us ladke ne kisi ke kehne par aisa kiya hai bcs koi bhi apni fake identity bata sakta hai toh isme order deliver karne wale ko kaise suspect kiya ja sakta hai usne toh sirf apna kaam hi kiya tha or agar usi ladke ne pics leak bhi ki thi toh bhi usne kisi ke order par hi ki thi raghav ko kaise laga ke kisi ne use paise dekar ye karwaya hai?

I hope i have been able to explain my point to you properly