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Posted: 15 years ago
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why the shikh men cover their head? I live outside India so I am wondering why they do so?

I've seen Piyush's pic without the head being covered and he looked way too handsome in kul avatar with head covered and with beard.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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hi here's some background information that you may find useful:

Dastar or Pagri in Punjabi and Hindi is a mandatory headgear for Sikhs. Dastar is closely associated with Sikhism and is an important part of the Sikh culture. Wearing a turban is mandatory for all Amritdhari (baptized) Sikhs (also known as Khalsa).

Among the Sikhs, the turban is an article of faith that represents honor, self-respect, courage, spirituality, and piety. The Khalsa Sikhs, who adorn the Five Ks, wear the turban partly to cover their long, uncut hair (kesh). The turban is mostly identified with the Sikh males, although some Sikh women also wear turban. The Khalsa Sikhs regard the turban as an important part of the unique Sikh identity. They are easily recognizable by their distinctive turbans. Some Sahajdhari Sikhs do not wear turbans. It is not uncommon to see Hindu males from Punjab wearing turbans signifying their close relationship with Sikhism.

In the Khalsa society, the turban signifies many virtues:
Spirituality
The turban is a symbol of spirituality and holiness in Sikhism.
Honor and self-respect
The turban is also a symbol of honor and self-respect. In the Punjabi culture, those who have selflessly served the community are traditionally honoured with turbans.
Responsibility
Rasam Pagri ("turban ceremony") is a ceremony in North India. Rasam Pagri takes place, when a man passes away and his oldest son takes over the family responsibilities by tying the turban in front of a large gathering. It signifies that now he has shouldered the responsibility of his father and he is the head of the family.
Piety and moral values
The turban also signifies piety and purity of mind. In the Punjabi society, the Khalsa Sikhs are considered as protectors of the weak, even among the non-Sikhs. In the older times, the Khalsa warriors moved from village to village at night, during the battles. When they needed a place to hide from the enemy, the womenfolk, who had a very high degree of trust in them used to let them inside their houses. It was a common saying in Punjab: Aye nihang, booha khol de nishang ("The nihangs are at the door. Dear woman! go ahead open the door without any fear whatsoever.")
Courage
The Sikh warriors (Khalsa) wear turban, partly to cover their long hair, which is never cut, as per the wish of their last human Guru, Guru Gobind Singh. There are many references in the Sikh history that describe how Guru Gobind Singh personally tied beautiful dumalas (turbans) on the heads of both his elder sons Ajit Singh and Jujhar Singh, and how he personally gave them arms, decorated them like bridegrooms, and sent them to the battlefield at Chamkaur Sahib where they both died as martyrs. A saffron-colored turban is especially identified with courage, sacrifice and martyrdom.
Friendship and relationship
Pag Vatauni ("exchange of turban") is a Punjabi custom, in which the people exchange turbans with their closest friends. Once they exchange turbans they become friends for life and forge a permanent relationship. They take a solemn pledge to share their joys and sorrows under all circumstances. Exchanging turban is a glue that can bind two individuals or families together for generations.
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dastar
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Posted: 15 years ago
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i want to discover too!..😲 infact when i have senn his photos without pagri1...i said:"wow heis sooo handsome in these pic!!!"

Sana🤗

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Posted: 15 years ago
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thanks now I know why...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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thanx for the info, Naina! 😃i was also curious about the significance of their turban & hair.

hey,is that derogatory 2 call a sikh, Jutt or Jaath! i once heard that they find it offensive!(can't recall! may b, some Siddhu folly!) ...so, why does Dharmendra sings: "main jaat yamla pagla 🤪deewana...."

another 1: is it necessary 2 carry a kirpan? kulwinder jst died, because of ...
P.S. i love the corageous-confident-khalsa people! i feel they r best among Asians!!!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: mogliF21

thanx for the info, Naina! 😃i was also curious about the significance of their turban & hair.

hey,is that derogatory 2 call a sikh, Jutt or Jaath! i once heard that they find it offensive!(can't recall! may b, some Siddhu folly!) ...so, why does Dharmendra sings: "main jaat yamla pagla 🤪deewana...."

another 1: is it necessary 2 carry a kirpan? kulwinder jst died, because of ...
P.S. i love the corageous-confident-khalsa people! i feel they r best among Asians!!!



Hi... I'm not getting into the whole 'jatt' debate. Personally, I believe everyone on earth is equal regardless of class, creed, religion, sexuality or colour. 😃

As for the Kirpan, we (sikhs) carry a kirpan because according to Guru Gobind Singhji, symbolically, the kirpan represents the power of truth to cut through untruth. It is the cutting edge of the enlightened mind.
The physical presence of a kirpan is to remind all gursikhs about Ahimsa, which means non-violence. The principle of ahimsa is to actively prevent violence, not to simply stand by idly whilst violence is being done. Therefore, the kirpan is a tool to be used to prevent violence from being done to a defenseless person when all other means to do so have failed. As for what happened to Kulvinder, the kirpan was used as a murder weapon and not in defence.

hope that helps 😊

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: warriorprincess



Hi... I'm not getting into the whole 'jatt' debate. Personally, I believe everyone on earth is equal regardless of class, creed, religion, sexuality or colour.😃

As for the Kirpan, we (sikhs) carry a kirpan because according to Guru Gobind Singhji, symbolically, the kirpan represents the power of truth to cut through untruth. It is the cutting edge of the enlightened mind.
The physical presence of a kirpan is to remind all gursikhs about Ahimsa, which means non-violence. The principle of ahimsa is to actively prevent violence, not to simply stand by idly whilst violence is being done. Therefore, the kirpan is a tool to be used to prevent violence from being done to a defenseless person when all other means to do so have failed. As for what happened to Kulvinder, the kirpan was used as a murder weapon and not in defence.

hope that helps 😊

me too! ...sorry! i didn't meant to creat any racist remark!!! but, "East or West, Cosby family is the best"-- i can say that if i adore them so much! ...in a D&G outlet i picked/preferred the green one, but other dresses are also D&G, right?( btw, the others include my own creed too) ...i just love their, the Khalsas, overall qualities (esp, when they do bhangra in a battlefield, after winning that!!!)
thank u, Naina!!! 😊the kirpan thing doesn't seems to me unreasonable any more! but, abuot the Jatt thing, i'm still in smog! 😕adressing a sikh guy as jutt-- derogatory or no?!!
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Originally posted by: mogliF21

me too! ...sorry! i didn't meant to creat any racist remark!!! but, "East or West, Cosby family is the best"-- i can say that if i adore them so much! ...in a D&G outlet i picked/preferred the green one, but other dresses are also D&G, right?( btw, the others include my own creed too) ...i just love their, the Khalsas, overall qualities (esp, when they do bhangra in a battlefield, after winning that!!!)

thank u, Naina!!! 😊the kirpan thing doesn't seems to me unreasonable any more! but, abuot the Jatt thing, i'm still in smog! 😕adressing a sikh guy as jutt-- derogatory or no?!!



hi - definitely no offense taken 😃.

ok with the jatt issue, I am going to try and explain it as diplomatically as I can because I have seen this issue flare up massively and just get nasty.

Just as in other Indian cultures, you have various ethnic branches or tribes within a particular group such as shah, patels etc in punjab you have jatt, tarkhan, ramgharia, saini etc. So you can imagine, if you are a 'Patel' and someone keeps referring to you as a 'Shah'; there is potential for you to get quite offended. therefore some people take this quite personally and it gets messy.

Sikhism DOES NOT believe in the caste system. However, there are people that choose to believe in it and therefore they promote one tribe as being superior than another.

This is against the teachings of the Guru Granth Sahib, because all Gursikhs are equal.


In a nutshell and to answer your question as well - you are safest to ignore the usage of tribal titles like jatt and refer to anyone to claims to be a sikh by simply "gursikh".

hope this helps...

naina

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oh, i don't want to use those, Naina!! in the olden days Navjot Singh Sidhu made a controvery stating: Jutts r inferior caste (or superior, he said-- i can't recall, but there was a controversy)! i was just curious about the fact. ...anyways, not only Indians, but RC-Lutheran- Orthodox/Siah-Sunni/.../-- entire human race is trapped in a nasty maze! we can just hope☯️ that'll end some day! SIGH!!! (😕 or may b it's necessary to fight with each other for controling world population-- as evolutionists say!😡)
...thanx for every thing, fountain of knowledge! 😊
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Originally posted by: mogliF21

oh, i don't want to use those, Naina!! in the olden days Navjot Singh Sidhu made a controvery stating: Jutts r inferior caste (or superior, he said-- i can't recall, but there was a controversy)! i was just curious about the fact. ...anyways, not only Indians, but RC-Lutheran- Orthodox/Siah-Sunni/.../-- entire human race is trapped in a nasty maze! we can just hope☯️ that'll end some day! SIGH!!! (😕 or may b it's necessary to fight with each other for controling world population-- as evolutionists say!😡)

...thanx for every thing, fountain of knowledge! 😊



totally agree with u on how mankind is trapped in this strange maze.... 😡

fountain of knowledge.... iska toh pata nahi... paar ur very welcome 😆

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