Originally posted by: ssandhya1237
hey,
in sikh culture, if the bridegroom is not present, or like unable to come, then the bride can marry the kirpan (like a knife which sikh's usually carry with them).this is usually done when the bridegrrom is out of country and cannot come. so family members of the bridegroom come and get their daughter in law married to a kirpan...which is considered equal to marriage with the bridegroom.hope this helps...usually i am very bad at explaining things!!!
Originally posted by: ssandhya1237
oh i am sorry if i gave the wrong information....😔 never ment to do that. if this doesnt happen that way...then i would also love to know what marrying to a kirpan would mean. i might not be a sikh..but i have lived in punjab for most of my life...and i seriously dont rememeber how on the earth i know what marrying a kirpan is....
The authorities witnessing his better health and shining face thought of new methods to torture him and his family. They prevented his fiance from visiting him, stating that she could only visit once they were married. Bibi Surinder Kaur decided she would marry a photo of Satwant Singh so that they could not use this excuse. Their relatives were unhappy with this decision. Bhai Satwant Singh's father, Sardar Tarlok Singh stated, "Dear daughter, we will marry you to our youngest son Swaran Singh. The Khalsa Panth has had to deal with this brutal Indian Government. How can you ever expect any justice from such a brutal regime? Even the courts are just pawns in the hands of Rajiv Gandhi. There is no hope that Satwant Singh will ever be free!"
Bibi Surinder Kaur replied, "Bapu ji, a woman only ever loves one man. I have already accepted Satwant Singh as my beloved husband. He is my husband, and I am his wife. That is how it shall remain. The brother of Satwant Singh, will be my brother."
Bibi Surinder Kaur's father, Sardar Virsa Singh said, "Daughter, if you do not change your decision to marry the photo of Satwant Singh, then I will commit suicide by taking poison!"
Bibi Surinder Kaur replied, "Dear Father ji, Gurbani states, 'Marran Lekiaee Mandal Mae Ayee' so every person has their death written by Akaal Purakh Waheguru before they are born on this earth. Waheguru has already written your last breath and in the same way the decision of my marriage to Satwant Singh cannot change either. If it is written that he is going to die by hanging then that will happen also. I am ready to face whatever comes my way in the future. Until my last breath, I will never let any stain come on respect due to the dastar of Satwant Singh, your dastar, father, and the dastar of my father-in-law."
It was now the year 1988 and the role of Siri Akal Thakhat Jathedar was held by the questionable Jasvir Singh Rode. Due to the fact that Bibi Surinder Kaur would not change her mind to marry the photo of Satwant Singh, both families decided to take her to the Jathedar so he could convince her. Jasvir Singh said to her, "Bibi, do not rush to make such a big decision. There is no hope that the authorities will not give Satwant Singh a sentence of hanging. So do not make such a big life decision, without thinking it through…"
Bibi Surinder Kaur replied, "Singh Sahib ji, you are right. The authorities will give Satwant Singh the hangman's noose. Both our families had decided to marry me and Satwant Singh. Due to Satwant Singh not geeting vacation time off, the wedding was delayed at the last moment. However, if Satwant Singh had killed Indira Gandhi after our marriage, then he would have been sentenced to hanging as well. I, as Satwant Singhs wife would have had to see every hard time in the future. My husband, Satwant Singh completed a great and brave task! The integrity of the Sikh Nation, its dastar, was ripped off by Indira Gandhi and she stamped on it with her feet in June 1984. My husband took the dastar of the Sikh Nation and replaced it on its head. Even in my worst dreams, I could never turn my back on such a great man. It can never happen! I have accepted Satwant Singh as my husband. I will never let a stain come on his Dastar. I will spend my whole life as the widow of Satwant Singh!"
Akal Takhat Jathedar, Jasvir Singh Rode, said to both fathers of Satwant Singh and Bibi Surinder Kaur, that, due her strength of will, she should be allowed to marry the photo of Satwant Singh, in the presence of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. According to the hukam of Singh Sahib, on the 2nd May 1988, Satwant Singh's father, Bapu Tarlok Singh, his mother, his elder brother and his wife, left their house with a picture of Satwant Singh and went to the house of Sardar Virsa Singh. In the presence of Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji, Bibi Surinder kaur married the photo of Satwant Singh. In the afternoon, the Doli of Bibi Surinder Kaur left the residence of Sardar Virsa Singh for the house of Bhai Satwant Singh.
so this is the truth of that story.... look how many people got involved, even the main guy from our Akal Takht Sahib...... I hope I was able to put some sense in those brains who think that Sikhs are idiots adn do these stupid things........
I am sikh too born and brought up in Punjab but currently in US. Whatever SSandhya1237 has said is absolutely right. This happens a lot in the Punjab villages where the girls in arranged marriage are married to the Kirpan where usually the groom being in another country or being hospitalized under unfortunate circumstance is unable to be present in the wedding. This, FYI, Sonu98 , is true and real even these days although now the immigration rules are so tough.
Also having seen both the east and west, and knowing my culture very well and a staunch believer in Guru Granth Sahib and also reading Granth Sahib almost everyday, let me tell you that Guru Granth Sahib was written well before our Sikh religion was established by the 10th Guru, Guru Gobindsinghji. He set up the sikh maryada and the anandkaraj rasm of four pheras aound the Holy book as Gobind Singh ji being a scholar and a warrior knew that according to the vedas 3.5 Pheras complete the wedding, so even though the Hinduism has seven pheras with seven vows, 3.5 pheras accomplish the wedding. SO Guru GobindSinghji established four pheras and since for sikhs our Guru is The Granth Sahib, the Ultimate, we have four pheras around The Holy Book. You will not find this written in the Granth Sahib. But Sonuji, for Hindus, the Fire is as Pure as our Babaji is to us, so to write so strongly against somebody with half a knowledge is wrong.
Also FYI, I don't think there are many sikhs out there who consider Satwant Singh as Bhaiji ( a term used for reverence for sikh men) as what happened during that phase was bad ,ugly and very political. Please enlighten yourself with the complete basics of the problem, the political system, the atrocities and bias of the government and above all difference between terrorism, fight for justice and Gundaism.
Having said that, I would like to say that I am proud to be a sikh and will keep all the maryada no matter where I live, but would not demean any other religion.
The boy and girl, after every circumambulation, should bow before the Guru Granth Sahib in genuflexion, lowering their forehead to touch the ground and then stand up to listen to the recitation of the next stanza. There being four matrimonial circumambulation stanzas in the concerned hymn, the proceeding will comprise four circumambulations with the incidental singing of the stanza. After the fourth circumabulation, the boy and girl should, after bowing before the Guru Granth Sahib, sit down at the appointed place and the ragis or the person who has conducted the ceremony should recite the first five and the last stanza of the Anand Sahib. Thereafter, the Ardas should be offered to mark the conclusion of the Anand marriage ceremony and the sacred pudding distributed.
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