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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hi guys
So finally Kartikeya is here and next week we will probably get to see Kartikeya killing Tarkasur. This week episode was well paced and interesting but I am confused about some things.

First of all why did Ganga continue to keep the oorja punj though Devi Parvati had already reached the place? Also when Ganga realizes that there is some danger lurking why didn't the others feel it? Why did Ganga not tell Mahadev and Parvati about this and all no one stops her as she is leaving with the oorja? I really didn't understand this.

Also while Gauri is distraught on loosing her child Mahadev somehow seems detached. While he had been ready to burn Bhandasur, here he is silent. He who always guides and supports Gauri doesn't help her to find the babies. Why did the cvs do this?

Please share your views.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I think you are searching for logic while there is no logic at all in the sequences that are shown in the show.
Parvati never reaches her infant before birth. Only after Krittikas take him she along with Mahadev goes to see her son.

Like you pointed out when Parvati reached in time there is no need of Ganga to protect the oorja.

Tarakasur never tries to destroy the unborn seed. But here every demon be it Bhandasur or Tarakasur laid their hands on it which is impossible.

The original story itself is so thrilling that doesn't need any more additional changes.



Lakshmi

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I understand that the cvs have decided to distort the story but they could try to be a little logical about whatever they plan to show. I really don't understand why Mahadev and Narayan who always support Parvati stay silent as Parvati and Lakshmi Devi leave to look for the baby. They didn't even attempt to console her. Did they know that the child had survived? And why is it that only Parvati is fighting for the child?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hi All,
I had decided not to comment, as it was all so... no words ...

There needs to be some proper logic ... which is missing

Most importantly, they are playing around with such beautiful stories. Yes there are some minor differences in different parts of India, but overall there is no change in the actual substance.

Take the insertion in UN's version of the asurs getting their hands/powers on Shiv Shakti's "Ansh Beej" ... that is totally unnecessary and distasteful - as it is something that takes away from the traditional story, rather than adding to it.

And now Parvati going in search ... Really ...
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On a lighter note, they had Parvati call on Ganga with reference to the motherhood thing and her take, but what about Poor Agni and his 'fatherhood' - after all he really suffered ... he did not get any mention ... no special calling up for his take on things, poor guy😆
Considering UN is having so many 'add ons' in other parts of the story ... I wonder why he did not get Agni also involved in the decision making process ... hmmm ... "Agni ne toh pratham is urjjaa ki raksha ki hain, isliye sarva pratham Agni ko apna paksh rakne ka avsar diya jaye"...😆

No offense guys, but UN's logic is ridiculousness ki parakashta, and I am trying to top him😆


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: rsnarula67




On a lighter note, they had Parvati call on Ganga with reference to the motherhood thing and her take, but what about Poor Agni and his 'fatherhood' - after all he really suffered ... he did not get any mention ... no special calling up for his take on things, poor guy😆
Considering UN is having so many 'add ons' in other parts of the story ... I wonder why he did not get Agni also involved in the decision making process ... hmmm ... "Agni ne toh pratham is urjjaa ki raksha ki hain, isliye sarva pratham Agni ko apna paksh rakne ka avsar diya jaye"...😆

No offense guys, but UN's logic is ridiculousness ki parakashta, and I am trying to top him😆


In that case there is someone else who is part of the decision making process...Mahadev himself...it is his child as well...so I guess asking poor Agni Dev didn't even occur to the cvs😉
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I'll be honest I did not like this week episodes; as much as I enjoyed last week episodes; this week episodes were so let down.
I wished Karthik wasn't introduced so early; anyways hoping tomorrow we get better episodes
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: rsnarula67

Yes there are some minor differences in different parts of India, but overall there is no change in the actual substance.



Actually, the versions vary wildly.😊

In the MBH version, Shiva and Parvati are not Karthikeya's biological parents. He was born to Agni and Swaha. Agni was infatuated with the wives of the saptarishis, and Swaha, his wife, sensing this, takes the form of 6 of them (except ARundhati) and romances her own husband. Eventually, she has Skanda. But then, the saptarishis, suspecting adultery from their wives, toss them out.

I believe after that the 6 wives came to be known as krithikas and demand to keep Skanda. Am still reading on how Skanda ends up with Rudra and Gauri.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Actually, the versions vary wildly.😊

In the MBH version, Shiva and Parvati are not Karthikeya's biological parents. He was born to Agni and Swaha. Agni was infatuated with the wives of the saptarishis, and Swaha, his wife, sensing this, takes the form of 6 of them (except ARundhati) and romances her own husband. Eventually, she has Skanda. But then, the saptarishis, suspecting adultery from their wives, toss them out.

I believe after that the 6 wives came to be known as krithikas and demand to keep Skanda. Am still reading on how Skanda ends up with Rudra and Gauri.


Yeah, I know about this story - but honestly recalled it vaguely only after reading your post.
So don't leave me hanging, please the complete story. Pretty please.


With regard to the show, I think the relevent ones are the versions with Shiv Parvati as parents.

But I really love the give and take here ... 😊, also some of the posts with the detailed stories are really wonderful to read.




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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by rsnarula67

Yes there are some minor differences in different parts of India, but overall there is no change in the actual substance.



"Then Brahma, the lord of all creatures, said to Mahasena, 'Do thou go and visit thy father Mahadeva, the conqueror of Tripura. Rudra coalescing with Agni (the Fire-god) and Uma with Swaha have combined to make thee invincible for the well-being of all creatures. And the semen of the high-souled Rudra cast into the reproductive organ of Uma was thrown back upon this hill, and hence the twin Mujika and Minjika came into being. A portion of it fell into the Blood Sea, another portion, into the rays of the sun, another upon the earth and thus was it distributed in five portions. Learned men ought to remember that these thy various and fierce-looking followers living on the flesh of animals were produced from the semen'. 'Be it so,' so saying, the high-souled Mahasena with fatherly love, honoured his father Maheswara."


This is from Mahabharat Vana Parva KMG translation. So here also the fact that Skanda is Shiva's son is established. Agni is only instrumental similarly Swaha is the means. But it is Shiva's Sakti combined with Parvati's resulted in Kartikeya's birth.

Ved Vyas who wrote this version of Agni and Swaha in Mahabharat validates Shiva's fatherhood to Skandha in Shiv Puran. That looks more convincing. Shiva's Semen eaten up by Agni in the form of a pigeon then when he lusted after the wives of sages this enters Swaha who took the forms of the six women.


No other birth story is as intriguing,fascinating and thrilling as Kartikeya's birth story.Hence I started posting the stories as per different sources,I completed Ramayan,Padma Puran Skand Puran and now writing the story given in Shiv Puran. After that I will proceed to write it as per Mahabharat.


If time permits have a look into that since you appear interested in knowing the facts.


Lakshmi
Edited by ltelidevara - 7 years ago
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I may be missing something, but how does this snippet establish Rudra's biological fatherhood of Skanda?
I am continuing to read the story, but again, this part looks to me like Agni and Swaha were surrogates for Rudra and Ima.

Might as well tell you, I tend to seek rational explanations.

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