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Posted: 4 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

Drona was part of the gang who attacked abhimanyu he was part of the planning committee .

Yes bhim bajaoed him and drishtdyum too 😎. Boss!! Drishtdyum forgave arjuna dearest 😛

Plus arjuna d father figure did not helped his son figure in time of need 😵


We know what happened Arjuna wasn't there, even Yudi didn't know that Drona was guiding Karna, Yudi didn't tell this to Arjuna, As CIC, it was Drona's job to plan but did he plan to capture Yudi or to kill Abhimanyu?


Drona and Bhishma were important to Arjuna, and it was an emotional outburst from his side when he saw his father figure dying, for me its very natural

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Posted: 4 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: NoraSM

@Bold -

Was he? Damn

I don't think Drona deserved Arjuna's love and devotion but he did play a very important role in his life, he was a father figure to him and agreed Bhishma and Drona were very important to him.

To be honest I don't think Drona loved Arjuna the way we assume he did. At his childhood he had understood the calibre that Arjun possessed, he knew that nurturing him properly might help him get his much anticipated revenge from Drupad and would also get Ashwathama the throne. So he shoved all the love and special treatment onto him taught him exclusive lessons and always told him that his real objective was to make Arjun number 1 so as to become dearest to him.


Arjun became the best and saw Dronacharya as a father figure, got him his revenge and his son the throne all good, but suddenly he married Drupad's daughter, which meant now if at all South Panchal attacks Ashwathama, he can't expect Arjun's help. His biggest weapon against Drupad was now his family member. This drifted him away from Arjun. He probably secretly became a Kaurav supporter, else he wasn't tied to the throne of Hastinapur to have supported Kauravas


Just my views no citations prove this

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Posted: 4 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: NoraSM


We know what happened Arjuna wasn't there, even Yudi didn't know that Drona was guiding Karna, Yudi didn't tell this to Arjuna, As CIC, it was Drona's job to plan but did he plan to capture Yudi or to kill Abhimanyu?


Drona and Bhishma were important to Arjuna, and it was an emotional outburst from his side when he saw his father figure dying, for me its very natural

We can't be sure that he didn't knew who all was behind it. .most probably he did.

But on a different note arjuna was present in the dice hall drona was present bhism was present did the two father figure did anything to rescue him?? NO.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: NoraSM


We know what happened Arjuna wasn't there, even Yudi didn't know that Drona was guiding Karna, Yudi didn't tell this to Arjuna, As CIC, it was Drona's job to plan but did he plan to capture Yudi or to kill Abhimanyu?


Drona and Bhishma were important to Arjuna, and it was an emotional outburst from his side when he saw his father figure dying, for me its very natural

While Abhimanyu was seeming invincible Karna asked Drona the way to defeat. It was Drona who told that he should ensure that Abhimanyu doesn't have the bow since they can't kill him with his bow. The entire plan to kill Abhimanyu was by Drona


The most active participants in killing were Drona, Karna and ofcourse Dushy's son

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Posted: 4 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

We can't be sure that he didn't knew who all was behind it. .most probably he did.

But on a different note arjuna was present in the dice hall drona was present bhism was present did the two father figure did anything to rescue him?? NO.

I don't think they knew Drona asked Karna to attack Abhimanyu from behind, it was Drona's job as CIC to form vyuhs

If he knew Drona did it still cried to help him then his love for Drona was much more deeper than we were thinking


Arjuna's brother staked him, he accepted his right on him so I don't see why would he blame Bhishma and Drona for something he accepted but he blamed Yudi for gambling

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Posted: 4 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

While Abhimanyu was seeming invincible Karna asked Drona the way to defeat. It was Drona who told that he should ensure that Abhimanyu doesn't have the bow since they can't kill him with his bow. The entire plan to kill Abhimanyu was by Drona


The most active participants in killing were Drona, Karna and ofcourse Dushy's son


Yes, we know it

I was saying that Pandavas didn't know what happened in side the vyuh and Drona's role in it because Abhi was alone there, they didn't know how Drona asked Karna to break Abhimanyu's bow


I don't think Arjuna's love was rational but I am thinking after all this, it was definitely unconditional

Edited by NoraSM - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#57

To summarize everyone agrees here,


During the dice game and in its aftermath Yudhi was the priority for bhima arjun nakul and sahdev. Bhim chose Yudhi over Draupadi. Arjun tried to support Drau without betraying yudhi twins remained silent


Drona and Bhishm and Peace were more important to Arjuna than Draupadi before the war and Drona and bhism during the war, to the extent that he would kill draupadi's brother who was fighting for him.


Peace was more important for Yudhi Bhima and Nakul before the war. But during the war they were only focussed on winning. Bhim remembers draupadi during the war. Reminds Arjuna as well but that's about.it. Nakul silently does his job as he always did


Sahadev was the only one who did not want peace over Draupadi before war and during it. Though he remained silent in the dyut sabha


So to conclude Sahadev wins.

Edited by Chiillii - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: Chiillii

To summarize everyone agrees here,


During the dice game and in its aftermath Yudhi was the priority for bhima arjun nakul and sahdev. Bhim chose Yudhi over Draupadi. Arjun tried to support Drau without betraying yudhi twins remained silent


Drona and Bhishm and Peace were more important to Arjuna than Draupadi before the war and Drona and bhism during the war, to the extent that he would kill draupadi's brother who was fighting for him.


Peace was more important for Yudhi Bhima and Nakul before the war. But during the war they were only focussed on winning. Bhim remembers draupadi during the war. Reminds Arjuna as well but that's about.it. Nakul silently does his job as he always did


Sahadev was the only one who did not want peace over Draupadi before war and during it. Though he remained silent in the dyut sabha


So to conclude Sahadev wins.

Yes sahadev wins amongst pandavas. But then......

Sakha makes an entry and sweep all the accolades with all the promise he gave to her and all the time he rebuked tormentors. 😆😎

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Posted: 4 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: Chiillii

To summarize everyone agrees here,


During the dice game and in its aftermath Yudhi was the priority for bhima arjun nakul and sahdev. Bhim chose Yudhi over Draupadi. Arjun tried to support Drau without betraying yudhi twins remained silent


Drona and Bhishm and Peace were more important to Arjuna than Draupadi before the war and Drona and bhism during the war, to the extent that he would kill draupadi's brother who was fighting for him.


Peace was more important for Yudhi Bhima and Nakul before the war. But during the war they were only focussed on winning. Bhim remembers draupadi during the war. Reminds Arjuna as well but that's about.it. Nakul silently does his job as he always did


Sahadev was the only one who did not want peace over Draupadi before war and during it. Though he remained silent in the dyut sabha


So to conclude Sahadev wins.

Completely correct response Sahdev for the win

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Posted: 4 years ago
#60

Originally posted by: Chiillii

To summarize everyone agrees here,


During the dice game and in its aftermath Yudhi was the priority for bhima arjun nakul and sahdev. Bhim chose Yudhi over Draupadi. Arjun tried to support Drau without betraying yudhi twins remained silent


Drona and Bhishm and Peace were more important to Arjuna than Draupadi before the war and Drona and bhism during the war, to the extent that he would kill draupadi's brother who was fighting for him.


Peace was more important for Yudhi Bhima and Nakul before the war. But during the war they were only focussed on winning. Bhim remembers draupadi during the war. Reminds Arjuna as well but that's about.it. Nakul silently does his job as he always did


Sahadev was the only one who did not want peace over Draupadi before war and during it. Though he remained silent in the dyut sabha


So to conclude Sahadev wins.


Nope, I don't agree.

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