Originally posted by: CaptainSpark
This Bheel Bharat story is sick. Alot of folktales, (Jambu fruit incident for instance) are sheer misogynistic trash, especially these ones targeting Drau. This one is so disturbing. I remember reading this years ago.
Bheel is terrible to women. Not just Panchali. Acc to them, Subhadra was also raped by some demon. She got pregnant, and Krishna forced Arjuna to marry her to save her reputation.
Originally posted by: HearMeRoar
Bheel is terrible to women. Not just Panchali. Acc to them, Subhadra was also raped by some demon. She got pregnant, and Krishna forced Arjuna to marry her to save her reputation.
What's with this misogyny? I am apalled 😲
Originally posted by: CaptainSpark
What's your opinion on Alli tale? It's a very disturbing tale, makes me question myself for loving Arjun and Krishna.
I feel alli tale is highly frictional wrote by someone who is anti arjun & krishna , I don't believe this story at all .
Lord krishna will never support this act , as it was he who saved a woman from humiliation in dice game . He wanted justice for draupadi .
Even alli story even Draupadi was ok with whole act coz alli did March towards indraprastha with her army & did met draupadi, who suggested her to drop her weapon & marry arjun. Alli defeatee all be it krishna, arjun or bheem
I think this story is highly frictional & illogical
Originally posted by: deepikagupta9
I feel alli tale is highly frictional wrote by someone who is anti arjun & krishna , I don't believe this story at all .
Lord krishna will never support this act , as it was he who saved a woman from humiliation in dice game . He wanted justice for draupadi .
Even alli story even Draupadi was ok with whole act coz alli did March towards indraprastha with her army & did met draupadi, who suggested her to drop her weapon & marry arjun. Alli defeatee all be it krishna, arjun or bheem
I think this story is highly frictional & illogical
Agreed. Tribal communities just want to make their tribal characters look heroic, moreover they want to make mainstream heroes look bad 😆
Originally posted by: CaptainSpark
Agreed. Tribal communities just want to make their tribal characters look heroic, moreover they want to make mainstream heroes look bad 😆
How does this story even make any tribal as hero
In tribal culture generally female consent is taken in a pretty high regard, but extra martial relations are or pre martial ones aren't considered bad
The stories actually do assume that these girls actually enjoyed those relationships (not saying about the Subhadra one, have no clue about it but the one shared by Deepika), same with the Alli one, she actually enjoyed what the snake did, it was only after she gets to know that that this was Arjun
Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism
How does this story even make any tribal as hero
In tribal culture generally female consent is taken in a pretty high regard, but extra martial relations are or pre martial ones aren't considered bad
The stories actually do assume that these girls actually enjoyed those relationships (not saying about the Subhadra one, have no clue about it but the one shared by Deepika), same with the Alli one, she actually enjoyed what the snake did, it was only after she gets to know that that this was Arjun
But if she enjoyed ie gave consent then how is it rape?
Originally posted by: CaptainSpark
But if she enjoyed ie gave consent then how is it rape?
They are actually not mentioning it as r**e if you read the wording as r**e
The focus is more on Arjun's plight and him thinking only of Draupadi
Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism
They are actually not mentioning it as r**e if you read the wording as r**e
The focus is more on Arjun's plight and him thinking only of Draupadi
From draupadi came in b/w.
The story of alli which I read says alli was raped , can u plz post alli story
Originally posted by: deepikagupta9
From draupadi came in b/w.
The story of alli which I read says alli was raped , can u plz post alli story
You'll have to look for old southern stories on MBh. Google search gives you Allu Arjun😆.
Basically, Arjuna wanted sex with Queen Alli. She refused. Krishna got him into her room in the form of a snake. You can use your imagination to understand what snake means in male anatomy.
Then, Alli takes an army to Indraprastha. Panchali convinces her to marry Arjuna instead of battling the nation.
So no, Panchali wasn't actually okay with it. She didn't even know about it. She cleaned up the immoral mess created by the two men. Which does make her culpable, but it's a far cry from her being okay with it.
Edited to add: I don't believe it happened. Nothing in their nature says they would've resorted to rape. Abduction and marriage, yes. Not rape.
Originally posted by: HearMeRoar
You'll have to look for old southern stories on MBh. Google search gives you Allu Arjun😆.
Basically, Arjuna wanted sex with Queen Alli. She refused. Krishna got him into her room in the form of a snake. You can use your imagination to understand what snake means in male anatomy.
Then, Alli takes an army to Indraprastha. Panchali convinces her to marry Arjuna instead of battling the nation.
So no, Panchali wasn't actually okay with it. She didn't even know about it. She cleaned up the immoral mess created by the two men. Which does make her culpable, but it's a far cry from her being okay with it.
If Alli was a Queen was she a maiden or a married woman??
As far as I have read Pandayas, Cheras and Cholas were all patriarchal society. Unmarried woman becoming queen could be acceptable for Manipur but probably not for Alli
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