Mahabharat from Subhadra's POV . - Page 2

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

draupadi got importance coz she was common wife of five pandavas , which gave her major lime light & made her heroine of MB , i can guarantee u if she was only wife of arjun then she would have not this importance as she would never been d queen of pandavas .

It was due to marriage to drapaudi that yudhishtra and his brother had it enough money and political footing to go and demand their rights from their cousins. So it was mutual thing pandavas needed drapaudi. Kuru panchal alliance brought together the merging of two of the most powerful kingdoms of its. I can guarantee it that no matter Arjuna won the Swamyvaar drapaudi would have either been married to yudhishtra or the all the five and in the both the cases her importance remain intact even in the war panchal was their major alliance. Drapaudi was empress she run the show in Aryavarth. She was an important political figure and everyone from shakuni to karna to yudhishtra recognise her importance and her contribution. Had it not been for their marriage to drapaudi pandavas would have still been roaming around in forest.

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

draupadi got importance coz she was common wife of five pandavas , which gave her major lime light & made her heroine of MB , i can guarantee u if she was only wife of arjun then she would have not this importance as she would never been d queen of pandavas .

Draupadi whole life revolve around 5 Pandavas.

No her life didn't revolved only around her husband she had great deal of responsibilities to fullfilll and weilded a great deal of power she was a very important political figure of those times.

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

draupadi got importance coz she was common wife of five pandavas , which gave her major lime light & made her heroine of MB , i can guarantee u if she was only wife of arjun then she would have not this importance as she would never been d queen of pandavas .

Draupadi whole life revolve around 5 Pandavas.

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Draupadi was the Empress of Indraprastha, It was because of Draupadi that Pandavas could go to Hastinapur after Dury attempted to burn them alive, they were living their lives without hope of Kingdom, Draupadi with her dowry and Panchal was the force which made it possible for Pandavas to get half the Kingdom (Khandavprastha)

Draupadi was treasurer of Indraprastha, she handled the economy of Indraprastha, Yudi was famous because he was a man and could become a King, Draupadi was the Protagonist of Mahabharata.

Every little thing moved because of Draupadi and Arjuna in the story, Arjuna gets enough credit for it, Draupadi deserves much much more credit for her role in politics

I mean Arjuna could marry Subhadra because he was exiled and Draupadi was part of this story too, there's not a single part where Draupadi is not present after her entry

You take out Draupadi and there's no Mahabharata, Pandava's lives revolved around her as much as her life revolved around them

Originally posted by: NoraSM

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Draupadi was the Empress of Indraprastha, It was because of Draupadi that Pandavas could go to Hastinapur after Dury attempted to burn them alive, they were living their lives without hope of Kingdom, Draupadi with her dowry and Panchal was the force which made it possible for Pandavas to get half the Kingdom (Khandavprastha)

Draupadi was treasurer of Indraprastha, she handled the economy of Indraprastha, Yudi was famous because he was a man and could become a King, Draupadi was the Protagonist of Mahabharata.

Every little thing moved because of Draupadi and Arjuna in the story, Arjuna gets enough credit for it, Draupadi deserves much much more credit for her role in politics

I mean Arjuna could marry Subhadra because he was exiled and Draupadi was part of this story too, there's not a single part where Draupadi is not present after her entry

You take out Draupadi and there's no Mahabharata, Pandava's lives revolved around her as much as her life revolved around them

I very well know about Draupadi & her contribution , but totally disagree for d fact if no Draupadi no mahabharat , Mahabharat hone ke bahut reasons the , Draupadi dint started d enemity b/w Pandavas & kouravs or other things , it's completely wrong 2 blame her 4 mahabharat.

Marriage b/w Draupadi & Pandavas was highly political benefiting both d parties.

Draupadi was d queen of indraprastha as finance minister .

Regarding arjun's exile , sorry 2 inform u it's was not coz of Draupadi as both yudhishthira & Draupadi asked arjun not 2 go for exile coz they got 2 know why arjun broke d rule still it was arjun who was adamant 2 go .

Arjun is a man who lived his major lives on war field , traveling , exile rather living in palace & enjoying.

Even Draupadi many times had reminded yudhishthira that the riches which they were enjoying in indraprastha were coz of arjun's valour.

Draupadi was not d reason of his marriage with Chitrangada & subhadra.

Draupadi was given d highest priority by Pandavas coz she herself earned it.

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

No her life didn't revolved only around her husband she had great deal of responsibilities to fullfilll and weilded a great deal of power she was a very important political figure of those times.

Draupadi marriage with Pandavas was highly political keeping d benefits of both parties.

Even drupad had kept this condition that only Draupadi children will given d throne . Prativindhya Draupadi son with yudhishthira was born d very first yr only I guess coz he was left with drupad in kampilya later brought 2 indraprastha by arjun .

She was queen that's why she has huge responsibility ,

I m not disgracing Draupadi nor denying her contribution

Just try 2 understand what I m trying 2 say

Devika was also yudhishthira's wife but that lady never got that importance, why she was also a princess even wife of d king.

Only Draupadi got this importance coz she was wife of 5 Pandavas , this gave her much power than any other queen of Pandavas.

Draupadi only being king Drupad's daughter would have never given this importance 2 her , or wife of only arjun would never give her this importance.

As u said subhadra has only importance of Abhimanyu 's mother & Parikshit's grandmother ,

" Boond boond se sagar banta hai , ek boond se nhi ".

That's why I said vedvyas never gave importance 2 any other woman in Mahabharat other than Draupadi.

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

I very well know about Draupadi & her contribution , but totally disagree for d fact if no Draupadi no mahabharat , Mahabharat hone ke bahut reasons the , Draupadi dint started d enemity b/w Pandavas & kouravs or other things , it's completely wrong 2 blame her 4 mahabharat.

Marriage b/w Draupadi & Pandavas was highly political benefiting both d parties.

Draupadi was d queen of indraprastha as finance minister .

Regarding arjun's exile , sorry 2 inform u it's was not coz of Draupadi as both yudhishthira & Draupadi asked arjun not 2 go for exile coz they got 2 know why arjun broke d rule still it was arjun who was adamant 2 go .

Arjun is a man who lived his major lives on war field , traveling , exile rather living in palace & enjoying.

Even Draupadi many times had reminded yudhishthira that the riches which they were enjoying in indraprastha were coz of arjun's valour.

Draupadi was not d reason of his marriage with Chitrangada & subhadra.

Draupadi was given d highest priority by Pandavas coz she herself earned it.

@red -

I didn't blame her for the war, which part of my reply implies that I am "blaming" her for the war? Blaming is a negative thing, my reply was a positive one for Draupadi, and I said there's no Mahabharata without her, Mahabharata The Epic not the war

@Blue - I didn't say Draupadi was the reason behind Arjuna's exile, I said she was "Part" of this story too

It was to imply how Draupadi was a central character who was involved in every event including Arjuna's exile which led to him marrying Subhadra, to assert my main point that Mahabharata is not Mahabharata without Draupadi, she is the protagonist

@bold - Agree

I don't think Panchal benefitted from this alliance but its a different debate

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

Draupadi marriage with Pandavas was highly political keeping d benefits of both parties.

Even drupad had kept this condition that only Draupadi children will given d throne . Prativindhya Draupadi son with yudhishthira was born d very first yr only I guess coz he was left with drupad in kampilya later brought 2 indraprastha by arjun .

She was queen that's why she has huge responsibility ,

I m not disgracing Draupadi nor denying her contribution

Just try 2 understand what I m trying 2 say

Devika was also yudhishthira's wife but that lady never got that importance, why she was also a princess even wife of d king.

Only Draupadi got this importance coz she was wife of 5 Pandavas , this gave her much power than any other queen of Pandavas.

Draupadi only being king Drupad's daughter would have never given this importance 2 her , or wife of only arjun would never give her this importance.

As u said subhadra has only importance of Abhimanyu 's mother & Parikshit's grandmother ,

" Boond boond se sagar banta hai , ek boond se nhi ".

That's why I said vedvyas never gave importance 2 any other woman in Mahabharat other than Draupadi.

Drapaudi kunti and gandhari contribute to the plot of the great epic hence they were important they were queens who weilded power in political alliance and held important position. Subdhara or devaki did held any such power did not had any such position and certainly did not contribute in anyway to the plot hence they are not important. Hence drapaudi kunti and gandhari are important female personalities/characters and not the other two.

I would like if you can provide citation for drapaud wanting throne for prativindhya.

No matter what the fact remains that drapaudi was important personality/character of Mahabharata an important political figure and subdhara was not. If you consider Mahabharata as a story than drapaud will be the female protagonist while subdhara will be supporting character. Kunti is the next important character after drapaudi followed by Gandhi the original point was that Mahabharata was incomplete without subdhara which is certainly not true the events will still follow their course even if subdhara is not there in the epic . While if drapaudi is taken out the event will definitely Change

Ps - i like subdhara but she is certainly was not an important character.

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

No matter what the fact remains that drapaudi was important personality/character of Mahabharata an important political figure and subdhara was not. If you consider Mahabharata as a story than drapaud will be the female protagonist while subdhara will be supporting character. Kunti is the next important character after drapaudi followed by Gandhi the original point was that Mahabharata was incomplete without subdhara which is certainly not true the events will still follow their course even if subdhara is not there in the epic . While if drapaudi is taken out the event will definitely Change

Ps - i like subdhara but she is certainly was not an important character.

I said Draupadi is heroine of MB u can also call her as sixth pandav.

We can agree 2 disagree coz acc 2 me no character of MB was unimportant

Had Subhadra not been there we would have neither had Mahabharata (the epic that we have) since her Great grandson heard it nor Srimad Bhagwatam since her grandson heard it

So she might not have been important to the happenings back then but she has full credit in the tale becoming a legend and that is as great a contribution