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Did Karna let down Duryodhan by giving Kunti the promise he gave her?

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Congrats every one on the new AT.Love the name
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Sabhayata.. I just wanted to write that.. honestly speaking.. reading the number of arrows that a warrior takes on his body being 100s and 500s.. I wonder if they are arrows or acupuncture needles 😆
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Warriors of that age were strong enough to take that arrow, Divyastras were very lethal if taken head on
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ...Diala...

Vrish.. how come are you here right at the time of AT's closure? Father's Instinct? 🤣

Watcher.. SeemsBrahmasira and Brahmastra have been confused a lot within the text..



I'm just about to leave for work.

Yeah, Brahmashira & Brahmastra are distinctly different weapons. In the Ramayana, Brahmastra was used to kill Ravan, while the Brahmashira was the weapon that Indrajit did his final yagna for, the one which was interrupted by the Vanaras

In the MB, everybody seemed to be able to take 100s of arrows - one could only be sure one was dead once the head was lobbed off 🤢
Edited by .Vrish. - 10 years ago
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One more paragraph where Karna defeats Bhimasena.

Then many foremost heroes amongst the Pandavas, desirous of rescuing the king, rushed in wrath towards Karna and began to grind him with their arrows. Satyaki and Chekitana and Yuyutsu and Shikhandi and the sons of Draupadi and the Prabhadrakas, and the twins (Nakula and Sahadeva) and Bhimasena and Shishupala and the Karushas, Matsyas, the Suras, the Kaikayas, the Kasis and the Kosalas, all these brave heroes, endued with great activity, assailed Vasusena. The Pancala prince Janamejaya then pierced Karna with many arrows. The Pandava heroes, armed with diverse kinds of arrows and diverse weapons and accompanied by cars and elephants and steeds, rushing towards Karna, encompassed him on all sides, from desire of slaying him. Thus assailed on all sides by the foremost of Pandava warriors, Karna invoked into existence the brahmastra and filled all the points of the compass with arrows. The heroic Karna then, like unto a blazing fire having shafts for its scorching flame, careered in battle, burning that forest of Pandavas troops. ( Hear Karna is clearly defeating everyone including Bhimasena)

Posting these citations again because that AT is over
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Posted: 10 years ago
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O monarch, that once more took place between Karna and the son of Pandu in battle, became, O king, exceedingly fierce and awful and fraught with a loud din.. Then Bhima, boasting of his prowess in battle, covered Karna in that encounter, O king, with showers of winged shafts in the very sight of thy sons. Then Karna, that warrior acquainted with the highest of weapons, filled with wrath, pierced Bhima with nine broad-headed and straight arrows made entirely of iron. Then Karna, filled with rage, grasped his strong bow and pierced Bhima with ten arrows whetted on stone and equipped with kanka feathers. Deeply pierced by Karna, that great bowman and foremost of all persons endued with might then took up a terrible shaft capable of piercing through the body of his antagonist. That shaft, cutting through Karna's armour and piercing through his body, passed out and entered the Earth like a snake into ant-hill. In consequence of the violence of that stroke, Karna felt great pain and became exceedingly agitated. Indeed, he trembled on his car like a mountain during an earthquake. Then Karna, O king, filled with rage and the desire to retaliate, struck Bhima with five and twenty shafts, and then with many more. With one arrow he then cut off Bhimasena's standard, and with another broad-headed arrow he despatched Bhima's driver to the presence of Yama. Next quickly cutting off the bow of Pandu's son with another winged arrow, Karna deprived Bhima of terrible feats of his car. Deprived of his car, O chief of Bharata's race, the mighty-armed Bhima, who resembled the Wind-god (in prowess) took up a mace and jumped down from his excellent vehicle. Indeed, jumping down from his car with great fury, Bhima began to slay thy troops, ( Here we see bhima realizing he cant prevail over karna and infact was bested by karna here attacking others now )

One more battle of Karna , While Bhima was avoiding Karna, Satyaki got defeated By Karna in the below Paragraph

Meanwhile, Karna also, O king, covered Dharma's son (Yudhishthira) that chastiser of foes, with thick showers of arrows, and felled his driver. Then that mighty car-warrior beholding Yudhishthira fly away in that battle, pursued him, shooting many straight-coursing shafts equipped with Kanka feathers. Karna too, otherwise called Vaikartana, O Bharata, in that battle, resisted Bhimasena, and the Karushas, the Kaikayas, and the Srinjayas. Meanwhile Sharadvata's son, in that battle, O sire, with great activity, sped many
Meanwhile Vikartana himself, resisting Bhimasena supported by the Pancalas and the Cedis and the Kaikayas, covered him with many arrows. In the very sight of Bhimasena, Karna, slew in that battle many mighty car-warriors among the Cedis, the Karushas, and the Srinjayas. Then Bhimasena, avoiding Karna, that best of car-warriors, proceeded against the Kaurava troops like a blazing fire towards a heap of dry grass. The Suta's son also in that battle, began to slay the mighty bowmen amongst the Pancalas, the Kaikayas, and the Srinjayas, in thousands. Indeed, the three mighty car-warriors viz., Partha and Vrikodara and Karna, began to exterminate the samsaptakas, the Kauravas, and the Pancalas, respectively. "Meanwhile the mighty Karna, having vanquished Satyaki and desirous of rescuing the (Kuru) king, (
Here Satyaki is clearly defeated by karna and after seeing karnas prowess again bhima is avoiding him)

Today, I will slay Karna in battle Having said these words unto Acyuta, that foremost of all heroes, that slayer of foes, with blood red eyes, proceeded quickly to battle, for rescuing Bhima and cutting off the head from Karna's trunk.'"
( Here Arjuna is rescuing Bhima that means Bhima was getting defeated by Karna)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Haavi Here Ur's

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Swami Vivekananda too has glorified Karna.Karna's name comes along side Bheeshma and Dronas name who were the spiritual giants of Mahabharata.

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This was the period of the Mahabharata, where the Kshatriya and his valour were worth emulating. We have examples from Karna to Ekalavya, a tribal in the forests hankering after knowledge of weaponry. We also have Brahmans like Dronacharya and Kripacharya, whose traditional pursuit was knowledge', becoming teachers and trainers of warriors.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Vrish.

I'm just about to leave for work.

Yeah, Brahmashira & Brahmastra are distinctly different weapons. In the Ramayana, Brahmastra was used to kill Ravan, while the Brahmashira was the weapon that Indrajit did his final yagna for, the one which was interrupted by the Vanaras

In the MB, everybody seemed to be able to take 100s of arrows - one could only be sure one was dead once the head was lobbed off 🤢

Oh I dint know you work in the nights..
The weapon that was denied for Karna is written to be Brahmastra.. while actually it is Brahmasira.. is that a translation error or typo/scratcho error.. 😕
people of those days seem to have been mam mam mam mammoth to take all the arrows still alive, body red with blood, yet with a smile to be described as Sun & its Rays
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Posted: 10 years ago
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It just says 'Brahma weapon' - the one that Arjun raises against Karna in Draupadi's swayamvara, the one that Arjun & Ashwatthama both got from Drona, the one for which Karna left Drona & went to Parashurama - the one whose mantra Karna forgot just b4 he was killed

From the descriptions, it's clear that they mean 'Brahmashira' while describing the above
Edited by .Vrish. - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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He may not have killed them, but he could have captured alive all the warriors he defeated esp Yudhistir and that would have ended the war. With Yudhistir enslaved Pandavas and their sons and wives would be slaves too. But apparently Karna truly believed Yudhistir, and not Duryodhan, alone was worthy to be the future king. That's what he said to Krishna when the latter offered him the crown.

Or perhaps somewhere he was intoxicated with the idea of defeating Arjun in duel to the point he didn't care for anything else, including a swift victory for Kauravas.

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