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Posted: 11 years ago
#31
But if Shalv truly loved Amba then he would not have did what he did to her...
I don't think Bheeshma was wrong...I think that Amba wanted to blame someone other than herself and Shalv...
How can she want someone to break a life long oath..he was willing to help her but in the end I think that Shalv was a coward and let his ego get in the way!!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#32
she seeked calmness in bhishma's destruction as she cldn't blame shalya as it was her love...otherwise bhishma's act dnt seem like crime.
I stick to that after all the reviews.
plus I liked the way parashuram said to bhisma why he wanted to fight wth him...only for Amba's satisfaction
Edited by angelina285 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33
I dont hate Bhishma for this, because if you blame him then you must blame Shalva even more, because he claimed to love Amba...
you can not blame anyone entirely for your own fate, because you have free will
However, if there is mistake that Bhishma did make it was not speaking up against the molestation of Draupadi- thats the only time I didnt like him, but I have a lot of respect for him

Like today when he brought Vidur for the naming ceremony and gave him equal title as his brothers!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ratilal22192

I dont hate Bhishma for this, because if you blame him then you must blame Shalva even more, because he claimed to love Amba...

you can not blame anyone entirely for your own fate, because you have free will
However, if there is mistake that Bhishma did make it was not speaking up against the molestation of Draupadi- thats the only time I didnt like him, but I have a lot of respect for him

Like today when he brought Vidur for the naming ceremony and gave him equal title as his brothers!


they say that it was only bhishma amng all elders who said that it was not right but as bound by his pratigya he cldn't go against the ruling king of hastinapur and he cldn't help draupadi.
Edited by angelina285 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#35

OMG, this just made me laugh. 🤣
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Posted: 11 years ago
#36
I don't think the blame for this goes to just one person.
There are multiple people to blame.

Bhishma - for violating the basic meaning of swayamvar.

King of Kashi - for not finding out his daughter's heart. Did he even ask them if they wanted a swayamvar?

Amba - for keeping her love affair with Shalva a secret. Had she revealed it to her father, it would have saved everyone a lot of trouble. After all, Ambika and Ambalika were still eligible, so the swayamvar did not have to stop.

Shalva - for choosing duty over love. Although he may be justified considering those times, he still had a responsibility towards Amba. It was rather rude of him to reject her as if she was a blade of grass.


The thing is, all of these people can be justified for their actions, but regardless of that, they all share at least a little blame IMO.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Bhishma had only listened to his queen's order. I would rather blame Satyavati for being blind with her son's love and sending Bhisma for the swayambar. I would also blame king Salva for his ego problem
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Posted: 11 years ago
#38
according to me, there is no one to be actually blamed or there is no one in this scenario who is not to be. it is entire circumstances that lead to the chain of events.
be that bheeshma's pride and high regards for their family, or be it salva's ego. or be that amba's blind love.

Kuru's were not invited to the kashi princess's swayamwar, which enraged bhishma.
satyavati found the 3 girls of kashi king worthy for their family, and she immediately agreed to bheeshma's idea to gate crash the swayamwar. and the events there, we pretty much know.

and in an open swayamwar, where there were no competitions, a girl would usually choose a person or i ll go with king or prince, who was good looking, powerful. and the royal families would not be conducted without the consent of the daughters. so its quiet clear that the three princess were approached and amba had all rights to lay bare her feelings to her parents.

i am not justifying what bheeshma did was right with my words. but we now never know what the circumstances were back then. all we can do is just analyse with analytical minds of today and the scriptures we read now.

i also find salva and amba equally to be blamed in this.
he who claimed to love her unconditionally, left her just because he was defeated and was at bheeshma's mercy? is it worth called 'True love'??
and even when facing bheeshma, he never said that he and amba loved each other. had he told that, may be...may be the scenario would be different. or if amba had told him...

and coming to amba... she had let go of every opportunity to tell bheshma that she loved salva.
could she not tell him at the swayamvar, or when bheeshma proposed her sister's wedding with his brother? or when they were being taken to hastinapur??
did not satyavati and bheeshma send her to salva when they knew she loved salva? they sent her like a princess but then she did not have any qualms with them!!! she dreamt her wedding with salva and her life after...

what salva did was also not right. he left her and sent her back.
hurt and tormented, rejected by the man she loved she returned to hastinapur and demanded bheeshma to marry her.
did she not know that he was vowed to celibacy? then why him? had he not made it clear he was at swayamvar for his brother?? (although i am not sure if this could be done in those times... but let me leave that aside) when she refused, she was hurt again.
a beautiful maiden was rejected twice, once by the man she loved and once by the man who won her.
why did she not find salva wrong? why only bheeshma?? is it true what they say? a lady never finds any faults in the person she loves!!
it was then she looked forward to desroy bheeshma... she approached parashuram and when she failed, she gave her life, and took rebirth as shikhandi or shikhandini...


i am not sure who is actually to be blamed... because all have played their parts... its up to out perception...

sorry if offended anyone but these were my thoughts...

Edited by princess_pari - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#39
The blame game, is not all as simple as that bearing in mind the faults of each individual in question, and as people have rightly pointed out these so I won't repeat them.
it is an the ongoing pattern for the generations in the story who have yet to be seen:
man has free will thus should take responsibility for her/his own fate regardless of her/his circumstances; something that becomes applicable for every character @ some point in the story. A story of our mankind, love the Mahabharata
Edited by rangeeni - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#40
evn i dun think dat bheeshm is to b blamed..!! he was bonded by orders ...n in those tyms voilatin any order of any person at higher post was like invviting death n evn he was bound by his own promise .so i barely think dat he was to b blamed for dat prince nt accepting amba.he had lost he ws nt courageous enough..!!
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