Harsh Rajput - Page 2

Again it's an open forum, just because you don't agree with something and you don't barge into a topic I can understand because most of the topics you've disagreed with have been about the show itself alone. I am yet to see anyone here trolling or speaking ill about people watching and appreciating the show unlike you who directly passed the blame on the Naagin 5 fandom for not watching or criticizing the show.

Where have I specifically put the blame on the entire N5 FD, can you point out?

If it was about the ML then you should have just sticked to appreciating the ML, why did you drag us that is a 'section of fans' into your conversation or posts in the first place? If you talk about us obviously you will get a response from us.

Responsibility for what exactly? You make it sound like being critical of this show and belonging to the group that constantly criticises the show is something to feel guilty about? Why should we? If you love the show so much why don't you take the responsibility for being unable to bring it's ratings up in that case instead of blaming us? Your talking as if Naagin 5 fandom is the only group around that watches TV, if Naagin 5 fans didn't watch I'm sure there were others right, or was the Nazar fandom, that is a certain section of the nazar fans not good enough to keep this shit afloat? Is it that hard or difficult to accept and admit that most of the people have rejected this show for what it is?

Funny how even the mention of minute things stir up your penned up frustration and then you come preaching about what should I comment or not.

First of all, I was replying to another fellow member with whom I agreed on certain points. You didn't need to interfere in the first place.

And secondly, if you have selective blindness I can't do anything about it. I have specifically mentioned in every post that the show itself lacks a solid ground and there should have been more detailing. Still, since the last few episodes they were revealing the details and it was good enough. So that's the point where I said any show and actors need to be given time.

But you are stuck with a portion of fan.

And about responsibility, you don't like the show but when we talk about different view, you have a problem if we talk about it. And who has informed you whether I watch it or not? As a whole it doesn't have high TRP but there are shows with lesser TRP that have been there for ages. So there are a lot of things that goes behind the camera. But you march here with authority as if you are the advocate of entire ITV audience.

I have no problem in accepting the show has problems. I also have no problem in appreciating the good things.

If you want to voice it out go ahead but don't expect people to just sit and put up with your blame game.

There is negativity against this show because it simply sucks to the core. If you like watching and appreciating crap good for you, you're free to do that, just don't expect everyone here to do the same and then complain that they are responding to you after pointing fingers at them.

I am not expecting anything. But it's funny how some people expect me to agree to their claims.

bold Because it is an open forum, and yes I'm quoting you because I am responding to you. Second of all I am yet to see anyone barge into a thread where the show is being appreciated alone, from what I know blaming a certain section of fans is no where close to appreciating the show or its cast. Seriously you're giving us way too much credit here now.

As fans or antifans we are allowed to criticise the show which you think is ridiculing provided it's restricted to the show itself

If you like the show so much it's fair enough for you to appreciate it however you have no right to point fingers at anyone who doesn't watch or like this crap because it just makes you look really petty for doing so. Keep your criticisms or appreciation limited to the show itself.

There are people who have appreciated certain aspects even in this forum. The original post was about that only. But I guess selective blindness has no cure.

So go ahead, take your time and quote me. I am all for healthy discussion but I have no time for people who ride on high horses.

Originally posted by: infinity101

A while back in a post I said that Harsh is a misfit for the role he has been given in the show. I have kinda changed my perception now 😆. TBH he isn't that bad, I think his performance has improved and he is doing a good job 👍🏼.And he looks very very cute .And though I don't watch the show regularly or anything, just some tidbits when my mother is watching, I think even the story isn't that bad, it's kinda interesting, too bad that the show is already doomed and wrapping up soon(as per the news articles).

I am feeling the same. Harsh is improving. He was looking good in some of shorts (in Youtube) and so the episode. The story and scenes are fine but still story needs to find its right path.

Originally posted by: nushy1995

The blame is to be shared by both the PH and a certain portion of fans.

It's not like N5 wasn't given enough time. They were and even when that didn't work, they switched to the next season, in the same way when a rather unsuccessful Season 4 paved the way to Season 5.

But the way some people are behaving that the leads couldn't pull the crowd, here they are conveniently forgetting that the show hasn't been given any time at all and they pulled the plug.

Anyway, the PH didn't want to waste money. But I hope they do understand that with half baked stories they wouldn't be able to succeed. The story was finally getting better and they jeopardized it by forcing the Naagin concept. What a waste!

I wish people stopped their hypocrisy that when their favorites are the leads, the failure of the show is makers' fault but otherwise it's the actors' fault.

Hope the cast and crew get better projects in future.

I think the blame is of course to be taken by the makers or the team. The makers should have given a small break to the show like a month or two and then they should have started thid show. So that the wrath of Naagin 5 fans would have been reduced. But makers wrote the story overnight and brought it next day after Naagin 5's end. That pissed the fans of Naagin 5. But now, many of the Naagin 5 are liking the show (I mean from the past 3 episodes), leads as well as the couple.

Even though it is half baked, the cinematography and picture quality is better than the whole Naagin series. I kinda liked the supporting cast characteristics too... Not so loud like Naagin series...

Originally posted by: InsaneSoul08

I think the blame is of course to be taken by the makers or the team. The makers should have given a small break to the show like a month or two and then they should have started thid show. So that the wrath of Naagin 5 fans would have been reduced. But makers wrote the story overnight and brought it next day after Naagin 5's end. That pissed the fans of Naagin 5. But now, many of the Naagin 5 are liking the show (I mean from the past 3 episodes), leads as well as the couple.

Even though it is half baked, the cinematography and picture quality is better than the whole Naagin series. I kinda liked the supporting cast characteristics too... Not so loud like Naagin series...

Exactly!

I can't compare with the last seasons but they were picking up. Specially the logic behind adopting Rehan and other things, even when they were rushing, it made sense.

Given another month they could have improved the quality and may be answer to the remaining questions like why did Farishta impregnated Rags or what was the deal between her and Bani, who is the Aquaman and all.

The PH was way too impatient to launch this immediately after N5 and now too impatient to pull the plug.

Either way, all the best to the cast and crew for their future endeavors. 👍🏼

Originally posted by: nushy1995

Exactly!

I can't compare with the last seasons but they were picking up. Specially the logic behind adopting Rehan and other things, even when they were rushing, it made sense.

Given another month they could have improved the quality and may be answer to the remaining questions like why did Farishta impregnated Rags or what was the deal between her and Bani, who is the Aquaman and all.

The PH was way too impatient to launch this immediately after N5 and now too impatient to pull the plug.

Either way, all the best to the cast and crew for their future endeavors. 👍🏼

I also agreed

Originally posted by: Rein123

Naagin 4 ended because of budget issues and they didn’t want to waste the slot given to them so they had to start Naagin5, however Naagin 5 was a completely different story with barely any connect with season 4, but where it fell short was the promotion and the quick launch right after season 4, in short Naagin 5 did not even get a proper premier but it still managed to complete it preset run.

It is just a rumour that Naagin 4 ended because of budget. It was because of poor ratings...

That is,

Rating: 2.2-2.7 in its last three weeks before lockdown

Position/Rank: 5,8,9 = It is considered low with reference to the achievement of first three seasons (1st rank with 3.5+ ratings)

So they thought to end it and brought Naagin 5. If budget is the problem, Naagin 5 would not have come immediately also with a better VFX than Season 4 in initial episodes. (Still Overall season 4 has the best VFX across all 5 seasons)

But what to do! Naagin 5 ratings goes new level of downhill in ratings and position. So, they thought to bring the show as filler to retrieve the 8pm weekend slot.

Originally posted by: InsaneSoul08

It is just a rumour that Naagin 4 ended because of budget. It was because of poor ratings...

That is,

Rating: 2.2-2.7 in its last three weeks before lockdown

Position/Rank: 5,8,9 = It is considered low with reference to the achievement of first three seasons (1st rank with 3.5+ ratings)

So they thought to end it and brought Naagin 5. If budget is the problem, Naagin 5 would not have come immediately also with a better VFX than Season 4 in initial episodes. (Still Overall season 4 has the best VFX across all 5 seasons)

But what to do! Naagin 5 ratings goes new level of downhill in ratings and position. So, they thought to bring the show as filler to retrieve the 8pm weekend slot.

Thank you for pointing out the obvious. 🤗

Post Season 3, I don't think there's much story left to tell.

Besides, OTT has started to bloom now and it's next to impossible to attain high TRP like earlier unless you have a properly planned story.

But instead of improving the quality, makers choose to deviate from the original storyline, introduce weird tracks and drive away the viewers, finally pull the plug.

I am a bit glad TBH that they'll not have time to butcher the leads more. I was reading the synopsis of N5 and my head started spinning.

But a few more episodes and development between the leads would have been great. 👍🏼

Originally posted by: nushy1995

Thank you for pointing out the obvious. 🤗

Post Season 3, I don't think there's much story left to tell.

Besides, OTT has started to bloom now and it's next to impossible to attain high TRP like earlier unless you have a properly planned story.

But instead of improving the quality, makers choose to deviate from the original storyline, introduce weird tracks and drive away the viewers, finally pull the plug.

I am a bit glad TBH that they'll not have time to butcher the leads more. I was reading the synopsis of N5 and my head started spinning.

But a few more episodes and development between the leads would have been great. 👍🏼

You're right. For a show like Naagin, ratings depend on the storyline not on the filler romance scenes or the masala.

Actually Season 4 had a lot of potential to be a superhit with a simple yet thrilling storyline but the makers were not confident about the story and changed the story every week thus the season becomes a loophole of the whole series.

Coming to Season 5, the weird concept of Eagle and Naagin started. That's not really a problem. Still it managed to hold a lot of potential (even more than S4), but still story was inconsistent and when there is story (Dusshera track - November 2020), there was no ratings. So, blame is on makers as well as audience.

KTH is also a weird concept, Adishaat and Naagin... Again it's not so a problem unless they have a child. But still it would take time to reach conclusion.

Ekta needs to fire her writers...

Originally posted by: InsaneSoul08

You're right. For a show like Naagin, ratings depend on the storyline not on the filler romance scenes or the masala.

Actually Season 4 had a lot of potential to be a superhit with a simple yet thrilling storyline but the makers were not confident about the story and changed the story every week thus the season becomes a loophole of the whole series.

Coming to Season 5, the weird concept of Eagle and Naagin started. That's not really a problem. Still it managed to hold a lot of potential (even more than S4), but still story was inconsistent and when there is story (Dusshera track - November 2020), there was no ratings. So, blame is on makers as well as audience.

KTH is also a weird concept, Adishaat and Naagin... Again it's not so a problem unless they have a child. But still it would take time to reach conclusion.

Ekta needs to fire her writers...

Again, completely agree with you.

It's about detailing and sticking to the original concept. Personally I think there is nothing wrong with the love story between a Naagin and Cheel as long as there's consistency. Even the fact that their child would be cursed made sense.

If you have watched the original version of Charmed, there Leo was a whitelighter (Angel) & Piper was a good witch - protector of the mankind. Yet when Wyatt was born, due to his extreme power the Elders got divided whether he should be protected or eliminated.

I saw some weird comments in IG that calling Rehan Adi-Shaat is an insult to VaNi. Why is that? It's only natural that a hybrid between two sworn enemy clans would be considered as inauspicious. They could have shown VaNi's battle for their kid's safety but they directly shifted to KTH.

Even KTH, it made no sense that a hybrid of Cheel & Naagin turned out to be a Vampire of all species. A winged demon would still make sense minus his fangs and classic vampire traits. It had much potential with the love story a demon and angel. But they forcefully introduced the Naagin angle and that too with the weirdest logic possible.

If only they had stuck to one concept and focused on completing its journey, none of the seasons would meet their unfortunate end.

And yes, audience too are to be blamed when they don't acknowledge a good plot.

Originally posted by: nushy1995

Again, completely agree with you.

It's about detailing and sticking to the original concept. Personally I think there is nothing wrong with the love story between a Naagin and Cheel as long as there's consistency. Even the fact that their child would be cursed made sense.

If you have watched the original version of Charmed, there Leo was a whitelighter (Angel) & Piper was a good witch - protector of the mankind. Yet when Wyatt was born, due to his extreme power the Elders got divided whether he should be protected or eliminated.

I saw some weird comments in IG that calling Rehan Adi-Shaat is an insult to VaNi. Why is that? It's only natural that a hybrid between two sworn enemy clans would be considered as inauspicious. They could have shown VaNi's battle for their kid's safety but they directly shifted to KTH.

Even KTH, it made no sense that a hybrid of Cheel & Naagin turned out to be a Vampire of all species. A winged demon would still make sense minus his fangs and classic vampire traits. It had much potential with the love story a demon and angel. But they forcefully introduced the Naagin angle and that too with the weirdest logic possible.

If only they had stuck to one concept and focused on completing its journey, none of the seasons would meet their unfortunate end.

And yes, audience too are to be blamed when they don't acknowledge a good plot.

@bold:true,i think harsh initially couldnt figure out his character,and it showed in some initial scenes,i mean traits of vampire,bgm of cheel and inbetween wolf sound as well,it didnt make sense..instead of vampire they should've kept it as adi shaat,with adi shaat bgm would have been good

Plot is good overall but i guess makers didnt know how to handle a devil and angel story thus the mess