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Posted: 6 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Yash004



Karns exposed character of draupadi and other than this there was no role of karna. Karna's words were bitter but truth. I thought some people want peace here but they are provoking for war. Last few topics are war provoking and we just make sure it should not start from our side. thanks


Somebody who has read BORI should be knowing what was the exact role of Karna. We will come to that discussion when the episode comes.

Till then, reporting your comment.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Please don't turn this thread into a war zone of abuses. This is meant to be a safe space for those that are interested in discussing the original Mahabharata.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: SweetRogue

Please don't turn this thread into a war zone of abuses. This is meant to be a safe space for those that are interested in discussing the original Mahabharata.


Unfortunately 70% of those who read Mahabharat these days are interested only either in Karna or in Arjun. Such a huge epic reduced to only juvenile debates. Sometimes I get tired of the stupidity.

This is a request to Pandava fans as well, if you have to discuss flaws of Karna, please try to do it mainly with regards to the aired episode. Not out of the blue.





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Posted: 6 years ago
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was drapaudi really born out of fire??? or is it just a myth??
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: amritat


Unfortunately 70% of those who read Mahabharat these days are interested only either in Karna or in Arjun. Such a huge epic reduced to only juvenile debates. Sometimes I get tired of the stupidity.

This is a request to Pandava fans as well, if you have to discuss flaws of Karna, please try to do it mainly with regards to the aired episode. Not out of the blue.


@Amritat,

Hello. I'm new here.
I'm kind of shocked to find this forum full of arguments and wars when it's about the fiction written by Kavita Kane. I agree with you on the bold lines. I'm a Pandava as well as a Karna fan (rarely found I guess). I hope this thread will be different from the others.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

was drapaudi really born out of fire??? or is it just a myth??


Phew. Finally a question which will not cause debates. 😆

Mahabharata does mention Draupadi and her brother's birth from fire. This story is narrated by a Brahmin to the Pandavas, when they were roaming around after the House of Lac incident.

A Brahmin visits the home they were staying at, and he tells them about Draupadi emerging from fire with prohecies being chanted from the skies.

Personally, I do not believe any such thing had happened. In fact, I feel all divine births were either metaphorical or rumours spread for a cause.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: amritat


Phew. Finally a question which will not cause debates. 😆

Mahabharata does mention Draupadi and her brother's birth from fire. This story is narrated by a Brahmin to the Pandavas, when they were roaming around after the House of Lac incident.

A Brahmin visits the home they were staying at, and he tells them about Draupadi emerging from fire with prohecies being chanted from the skies.

Personally, I do not believe any such thing had happened. In fact, I feel all divine births were either metaphorical or rumours spread for a cause.

exactly all these divine birth being metaphor make the epic much more real and believable

amritat you mentioned their being a southern recension of the epic can you give bit more details on that front? like how different is it from northern one ? or are they same?
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Mahabharata was originally written as a poem, as far as I know. Poems use a lot of metaphors and similes. Perhaps they got taken literally turning history into myth. Then there are the interpolations. A text that was composed thousands of years ago is hardly going to stay unadulterated. Finally, it all depends on personal belief. I'm a rationalist and an athiest so I take every 'miracle' with a pinch of salt. There are people who believe fully grown adults could be born from fire in Dwapar Yuga and they're right in their own place. To each his own.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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I'm a devotee and a spiritualist, and I do believe in miracles. I believe in the age of Dwapara it isn't that uncommon to have divine births. So I believe Draupadi, Pandavas, Krishna and his wives, and Karna of course, had divine births. As SweetRogue mentioned, to each their own.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

exactly all these divine birth being metaphor make the epic much more real and believable

amritat you mentioned their being a southern recension of the epic can you give bit more details on that front? like how different is it from northern one ? or are they same?


The Southern Recension basically is the Editions that were found in Sanskrit but in South Indian scripts. Sanskrit as a language has no native script. It can be written in multiple scripts, for example Devanagari script, Bengali script, Telugu script, etc. Please note, it is not necessarily the same as translations of Mahabharata in the South Indian languages

You can google The Southern Recension, critically edited by P.P. S. Shastri. It is available in public domain. The Edition along with Shastri's commentary is in Sanskrit, but you can read his Preface in English. It is very informative.

There are considerable differences, but the basic crux of the epic is the same. Southern Recension is longer than Northern, and is far more detailed. Sukthankar, who was the general editor of BORI (the institute that collated the Critical Edition) opines the SR is far more systematic than NR.

The story of SR is divided into 24 Parvas, whereas NR has 18 Parvas. Karna fails in SR at Draupadi's Swayamvar. We do not find Balaram setting up Duryodhan-Subhadra marriage in NR. But in SR, we find that theme. The very famous "Subhadra driving chariot of Arjun" story is taken from Southern Recension. There are plenty of other stuff...but since SR does not have an English translation, the stories are not very famous.


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