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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: amritat


Sairindhri is not a name, if I am not wrong. It is what they called hairdressers. Draupadi was Sudeshna's Sairindhri, as in hairstylist.
Her "name" was Malini during disguise.


That's interesting Devdutt patnaik then got it wrong 😆, I was referring from his episode that used to come on Epic channel.
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: riti4u


That's interesting Devdutt patnaik then got it wrong 😆, I was referring from his episode that used to come on Epic channel.

DP is wrong about many things. His "My Gita" has been criticized by Sanskrit experts.
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: riti4u

I was reading about Nal Damyanti story in Van parv. Why was that story narrated to yudhisthir. It's similar story of husband staking wife in gambling? Is there any significance, I read that draupadi got inspired by Damyanti to be dutiful wife inspite of whole gambling thing how Damyanti supported her husband n all..



Nala never staked Damayanti in dice. When he was asked to stake her, he threw away all dress and ornaments he was wearing, and left the country with Damayanti, in a single piece of dress. [sounds similar?] Yudhi on the contrary went ahead and staked Draupadi.

Draupadi was a princess. So there was no need for her to learn her duties from stories. She was brought up to be perfect.

I think these extra stories are in MBh for a different purpose. Only very few people like us read MBh for the sake of the story. The largest audience of this book are spiritual/religious/moral guidance seekers. And this 'guidance' in MBh is expressed through the black and white portrayals of Ps and Ks. People like us will admit that MBh is not all black and white. But most people believe it to be the opposite. Since the book is so full of 'Yudhishthira the just' and 'evil Duryodhana', it is difficult for them to think otherwise. Whatever, the placement of these extra stories allows the readers to equate Yudhi & Nala, Yudhi & Rama, Yudhi & Satyavan etc, and Dury & Pushkara, Dury and Ravana, Durya & Death etc...and conclude Yudhi as the nice guy and Dury as the bad guy. Otherwise why did the great sage' Vyasa put those stories there, they might ask... In other words, Yudhi is allowed to escape his mistakes scot-free.

And on the other side, Draupadi is equated with the wives of these respective characters. To be quite frank, I find Vyasa attempting to portray Draupadi's life as a mixture of Damayanti & Sita. Draupadi's words to Yudhi & Jayadratha in Vana Parva are clearly inspired by Sita's in Ramayana. If we strip away Damayanti & Sita, and the bits of FFs attached to them, there is nothing much left with Draupadi. She is just like the nameless wives of Dury and Karna. And Yudhi is a kind of Nala & Rama mixture, though his true nature pops out occasionally.😆 I quite feel like the writers/editors wanted to show the suffering of Yudhi and Drau greater than that of other famous sufferers like Nala & Rama, because most people are attracted to sensational and melodramatic narration, and they wouldn't have cared about Yudhi & Drau enough unless the sensational element in their life was more than that of the already famous ones. They would just say 'come on, give us something different and new.'

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Posted: 6 years ago
Or perhaps whoever was told him that story just wanted to show Yudhi how a real king acts 😆. It would've made Yudi more respectable had he done what Nala did in the story.
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Posted: 6 years ago
Ummm... may be, but not to me as I believe that Yudhi never staked anyone. It could be aimed at later readers. Brockington, in the introduction of his translation of Ramayana detailed how male authors shaped the story, especially female characters, according to their own sense of morality, and he hinted that the truth may be different... Essentially, most females in our epics are showing stereotyped characteristics; so do the men. So we have no way of concluding how the real people were.
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Posted: 6 years ago
Jamy I read that he staked his wife second time when he wins back his kingdom ..By then he learnt craft from some skillful person.. first time I agree he leaves with his wife..but second time he stakes her only to win back everything.He didn't loose second time.
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: riti4u

Jamy I read that he staked his wife second time when he wins back his kingdom ..By then he learnt craft from some skillful person.. first time I agree he leaves with his wife..but second time he stakes her only to win back everything.He didn't loose second time.



😆 I read. It sounds unbelievable. So what does MBh teach? Stake your wife and win everything back? Yudhi also got everything back when he staked Drau.😉
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: Brahmaputra



😆 I read. It sounds unbelievable. So what does MBh teach? Stake your wife and win everything back? Yudhi also got everything back when he staked Drau.😉


He got it back because of her defiance actually. Had she not unsettled the Sabha enough for Gandhari to intervene, the Pandavas would've spent the rest of their lives as slaves. It's not the staking that helped him. It's the fact that his wife had enough fortitude and brains to pose a complicated legal question. I think the lesson would be to not treat people like property or not play dice when you're shit at it 😆
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Posted: 5 years ago
Hi guys...
Just a question. Can anyone suggest any book/research paper that explores the regional variations on the epic? By regional variations I do not mean the medieval age retellings (like 14th or 15th Century works) but traditions that are as old as the Sanskrit canon.

Thanks in advance. 😊
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Posted: 5 years ago
@amritat - I can't be of any help because that is an area more puzzling and ambiguous than MBh itself. First one should conclude about the origin and development of classical languages, and from there pick up MBh. You might get some help from John Brockington, one of the honorary vice presidents of International Association for Sanskrit Studies, and Emeritus Professor of Sanskrit in The University of Edinburgh. He is the one who wrote about regional traditions as old as the canon. His research papers are not freely available. From what I know, foreign professors are very kind towards our queries. His contact is given in the below link.

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