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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: najma123

Idk if this discussion happened here or not but since a lot of you know quite a bit about the epic, I have a doubt.

There's a story about Janmayeya's snake sacrifice and how Vaishampayena narrated the Mahabharat then etc. I read somewhere that there was one more person, a disciple of Vyas perhaps, I am not sure, who narrated the epic slightly favouring the Kauravas or from their perspective. I think his name started with J. I can't remember.
But only one part of the epic is available. Can someone give me some website regarding this story ?


Legend is, after composing Jaya, Vyasa narrated it to five of his disciples: Vaisampayana, Jaimini, Paila, Sumanta and his own son Suka. Once his narration got over, he asked them to write the poem in their own language. When the disciples came back with their own versions, Vyasa was overwhelmed with the ones by Vaisampayana and Jaimini. He rejected the rest and chose the two by V n J as his favourite versions.

What we read as Mahabharata today is Vaisampayana's version, whereas Jaimini's is believed to be lost. Only Ashwamedha Parva remains from Jaimini's.

Now, there is a belief that Jaimini is "pro-Kaurava", etc. However, scholars are divided over its authenticity, and whether at all a whole version existed or not. Some opine that other chapters did exist but are lost, while others assert that Jaimini's version was always about Ashwamedha Parva, and no other Parvas ever existed.

Now, the version of "Jaimini's Ashwamedha Parva" I read is an English translation of it by Daniel Sanderson. You can download the pdf from here:

Honestly, I did not find the version to be "pro-Kaurava" as such but yes, the Pandavas are more human and less godly in that.

But one thing which is worthy of observation is that Jaimini's version has heavy Bhakti element. Here Krishna is not just alluded to be an incarnation of Vishnu but is constantly worshipped by everyone. This aspect is not there in the Mbh that we normally read. This Bhakti element makes some scholars to opine that Jaimini's version may have been a later composition during Bhakti movement.

Recently, Jaimini's Ashwamedha Parva has been critically edited by Indologist Pradip Bhattacharya.
Here's a blog article for this:

Happy Reading! 😊
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Posted: 6 years ago
So in the end, we only have what many people thought about what Ugrasharava Souti thought about what Vaishampayana wrote based on what Vyasa told... Some hours ago, I read that there exists a manuscript of MBh that lacked Virata Parva and Anushasana Parva. It is somewhere in Austria. It could be the answer to Debroy's claim that the original war was for cattle. But we still don't know if incidents of Virata parva is a part of other parvas in this particular manuscript. Anyhow I always regarded it to be a later addition. It seems to me that too many Elena Ferrantes have written this book together.
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Posted: 6 years ago
@Brahmaputra - Perhaps, you are referring to the Spitzer Manuscript? It is not a "version" of Mbh but a Parva summary. It lists the Parvas of Mbh. Virat Parva is believed to have had a different name/originally part of Vana Parva, and not necessarily interpolation.
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Posted: 6 years ago
@amritat - oh yes. That one whatever it is. Thanks. I am too old to remember these names.😆 And I couldn't care less since I started to lose my interest in MBh. What is the point, I often think... Is it worth spending all the time for these people who no one surely knew whether existed...🤣
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Posted: 6 years ago
Isn't Jaimini's mahabharata the one that has Vrishketu's character?
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: SweetRogue

Isn't Jaimini's mahabharata the one that has Vrishketu's character?


Yes. Vrishaketu participates in Ashwamedha Yajna with Arjun.
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Posted: 6 years ago
I was reading about Nal Damyanti story in Van parv. Why was that story narrated to yudhisthir. It's similar story of husband staking wife in gambling? Is there any significance, I read that draupadi got inspired by Damyanti to be dutiful wife inspite of whole gambling thing how Damyanti supported her husband n all..
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: riti4u

I was reading about Nal Damyanti story in Van parv. Why was that story narrated to yudhisthir. It's similar story of husband staking wife in gambling? Is there any significance, I read that draupadi got inspired by Damyanti to be dutiful wife inspite of whole gambling thing how Damyanti supported her husband n all..


It was perhaps a message given to Draupadi (and the female readers of the epic) that hubbies must be forgiven, no matter what their transgression.
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Posted: 6 years ago
Interestingly draupadi was so inspired by her that she kept same name sairandhri which Damyanti kept when she was disguised as a maid I think in some kingdom..
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: riti4u

Interestingly draupadi was so inspired by her that she kept same name sairandhri which Damyanti kept when she was disguised as a maid I think in some kingdom..


Sairindhri is not a name, if I am not wrong. It is what they called hairdressers. Draupadi was Sudeshna's Sairindhri, as in hairstylist.
Her "name" was Malini during disguise.
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