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Hi all,

Today is the 443rd Anniversary of Maharana Pratap's ascension to the throne of the kingdom of Mewar. He became the ruler of Mewar on 28th February 1572, after the demise of his father - Rana Udai Singh. To remember the day, i thought of making a post & describe that historic occasion.

I am listing the events which happened at a great pace on that day - 28th February 1572.

Here is the Link : -> Click HERE to READ

PS : This includes some information about Rawat Chundavat Ji and his son.!



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Hi all,

Recently some interesting discussion has been going on related to Akbar.

Here is the link to a post shared by Radhika ; which speaks of many things like how much Akbar was influenced by his Rajput wives and by Birbal to the extent that he started worshiping the Sun, festivals like the Nau Roz that revolved around the sun and even introduced a new calendar and a new era based on the Sun's movement in the sky.

He even kept a hom burning in his palace at all times, under the influence of his Rajput wives. This is what the accounts say, not me. :-P

Click HERE to READ

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This Post is so heavily referenced from accounts with scans that you will find reference for almost EACH LINE written in this. ! Makes up for a good read.!


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Posted: 9 years ago

Historian Smith in his book on Akbar writes the following on Page-58, Edition of 1917, while mentioning Akbar's marriage with Princess of Amer, eldest daughter of Raja Bharmal -->>


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Akbar's marriages with Hindu princesses, on the contrary, produced important effects both on his personal "rule of life" and on his "public policy".

His leanings towards Hinduism will be more conveniently discussed at a subsequent stage, and the effects of the Rajput matrimonial alliances on public affairs also will become more apparent as the story proceeds.

But at this point of the narrative so much may be said, that the marriage with the Amber princess secured the powerful support of her family throughout the reign, and offered a proof manifest to all the world that Akbar had decided to be the Padshah of his whole people" Hindus as well as Muhammadans.

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The below article was published before the release of the movie JA .




Akbar did marry Jodha Bai, insists Zafar


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Hyderabad, Feb. 23: A descendant of the Mughal dynasty has asserted that Emperor Akbar had married the Rajput princess Jodha Bai. His comments gain significance in the wake of allegations by various groups that Ashutosh Gowarikar's film, Jodhaa-Akbar distorts history. According to Y. Ziauddin Tucy, 70, the great grandson of the last Mughal emperor Bahadur Shah Zafar, such allegations are false.

Tucy, a fifth generation descendent of Bahadur Shah Zafar, treasures a painting of Akbar and Jodha Bai at his rented house in Chanchalguda in the city. "This painting was done after their nikaah," he told this correspondent. "The text in Persian gives details about Akbar, including the day and time of his birth according to the Hijri calendar. At the time it was painted, the Emperor was 51 years, two months and 11 days old."

The footnotes on the painting say Akbar was coronated at Amarkot in Lahore in Hijri 963. "Such paintings of a Mughal couple were made only after their nikaah was solemnised," said Tucy. "Some people even falsely claim that Jodha Bai was Emperor Akbar's daughter-in-law." Tucy has retained hundreds of such paintings passed on to him by his ancestors. According to him, after her nikaah with Akbar, Jodha Bai, a Rajput, was renamed Maryam Zamani Begum.

"People who are unaware of facts distort history," he said. "Emperor Moinuddin Mohammad Akbar Shah, father of Bahadur Shah Zafar, also married a Rajput woman, Kaiyu Bai, who was given the title of Taj Mahal Begum." Tucy also has a painting of Moinuddin Mohammad Akbar Shah and Taj Mahal Begum.

"I do not understand why some sections want to deny the nikaah of Emperor Akbar and Jodha Bai," he said. "Even Aurangzeb got married to a Maharani." He pointed out that there had been no continuity in the recording of Indian history. "Between the first war of Independence in 1857 and 1947, historians put away their pens and stopped writing about the Mughal dynasty," he said. "This, despite the fact that Emperor Bahadur Shah Zafar was among those who led the first war of Independence." Tucy, however, is yet to see Jodhaa Akbar that is facing a ban in some states.
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Posted: 9 years ago
Rashmi
TFS :)

But Akbar was not coronated at Umerkot. He was only born there.

Wish we could see that painting. :)
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Hi Friends,
This is from Edicts from the Mughal Harem, by S.A.I. Tirmizi, former Deputy Director of Archives, Govt of India.

Recently a comment was posted that harem inmates hardly knew each other and did not interact with each other. This book however differs on this point.

"Within the precincts of the harem the inmates appear to have lived a happy domestic life with a strong tradition of affection and love which led many credulous foreign travellers to believe in curious tales and scandals. As a matter of fact the ladies of the royal harem, according to Gulbadan Begam, sister of Humayun, used to mix freely with their male-friends and visitors. Sometimes they went out in male-garments, played polo and applied themselves to music. They were also well-versed in the use of pellet-bow and other practical arts.

Akbar organised the Mina or Fancy bazar and ordered that "for a stated time (it) be given up for the enjoyment of the Begams and women of the harem." "

This clearly shows that women in the harem were on friendly terms with each other and did not live in isolation in their own hojras.

Further, the book mentions:

"This comparitive freedom given to the consorts and princesses of the Mughal harem inculcated in them a greater sense of dignity and honour with the result that they exercised no mean influence on the court and participated in the politics of the state and exercised considerable authority as is evident from the edicts issued from time to time by Hamida Banu Begam, Maryam Zamani, Nur Jahan, Mumtaz Mahal, Nadira Begam and Jahan Ara. The power thus wielded by these ladies can best be studied in the context of the participation of the pre-Mughal Indian, Persian, Turkish and Mongol women in the politics of their times."

This book as well as many other books, including those by Gulbadan Begam and women historians, clearly show that no matter how smart Akbar was, his womenfolk did play an active role in court politics and had a lot of influence and authority.

Btw, this book itself is dedicated to "the woman behind this book". 😊 Every great man definitely has a great woman behind him or beside him to guide him in moments of doubt.
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Hyderabad, Feb. 23: A descendant of the Mughal dynasty has asserted that Emperor Akbar had married the Rajput princess Jodha Bai. His comments gain significance in the wake of allegations by various groups that Ashutosh Gowarikar's film, Jodhaa-Akbar distorts history. According to Y. Ziauddin Tucy, 70, the great grandson of the last Mughal emperor Bahadur Shah Zafar, such allegations are false.

Tucy, a fifth generation descendent of Bahadur Shah Zafar, treasures a painting of Akbar and Jodha Bai at his rented house in Chanchalguda in the city. "This painting was done after their nikaah," he told this correspondent. "The text in Persian gives details about Akbar, including the day and time of his birth according to the Hijri calendar. At the time it was painted, the Emperor was 51 years, two months and 11 days old."

The footnotes on the painting say Akbar was coronated at Amarkot in Lahore in Hijri 963. "Such paintings of a Mughal couple were made only after their nikaah was solemnised," said Tucy. "Some people even falsely claim that Jodha Bai was Emperor Akbar's daughter-in-law." Tucy has retained hundreds of such paintings passed on to him by his ancestors. According to him, after her nikaah with Akbar, Jodha Bai, a Rajput, was renamed Maryam Zamani Begum.

"People who are unaware of facts distort history," he said. "Emperor Moinuddin Mohammad Akbar Shah, father of Bahadur Shah Zafar, also married a Rajput woman, Kaiyu Bai, who was given the title of Taj Mahal Begum." Tucy also has a painting of Moinuddin Mohammad Akbar Shah and Taj Mahal Begum.

"I do not understand why some sections want to deny the nikaah of Emperor Akbar and Jodha Bai," he said. "Even Aurangzeb got married to a Maharani." He pointed out that there had been no continuity in the recording of Indian history. "Between the first war of Independence in 1857 and 1947, historians put away their pens and stopped writing about the Mughal dynasty," he said. "This, despite the fact that Emperor Bahadur Shah Zafar was among those who led the first war of Independence." Tucy, however, is yet to see Jodhaa Akbar that is facing a ban in some states.</td></tr></table>


awsum info shared by u its really sad 2 knw dat der r sum ppl in our country who still dnt want 2 accept d facts thnx fr d info
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Posted: 9 years ago
@Radhika,

superb info radhika I ws trying 2 download dis book online bt m nt able 2 gt it do u hav soft copy of dis book or sumthng plz let me knw
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@Radhika,

superb info radhika I ws trying 2 download dis book online bt m nt able 2 gt it do u hav soft copy of dis book or sumthng plz let me knw


Harshu

I have the book, sorry, no soft copy.

But if you need to know anything specific from the book, let me know. 😊
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Harshu

I have the book, sorry, no soft copy.

But if you need to know anything specific from the book, let me know.😊


ohhh k no prob jst wanted 2 read fr my knowledge its ok if I want 2 knw sumthng wil defintly ask u thnx alot 😛
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