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Question is not if Marian uz Zamani was Salim's mother. Marian uz zamani is crown prince mother. And jahangir was crown prince. Question is if Harka Bai was Marian uz Zamani.This thread is dedicated towards digging history and I have quoted the source. I am not shoving it down some one's throat. We can have debate over that. What is wrong with debating? There is a shroud over Jahangir's mother. Historians just call her Muz. There is no 100% confirmed source that Harka was MUZ.
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Love stories and Hyderabad during and after Aurangzeb Interesting reading

Feb 13 2015 : The Times of India (Hyderabad)
FOUR LOVE STORIES AND A HEARTBREAK IN HYDERABAD


Forget the chocolates, purples, pink hearts... This V-Day, soak in the love in a city built for it
When Aurangzeb con quered Hyderabad in 1687, he renamed the city Dar-ul Jihad (land of war). But within a few years, Mughal Subedar Nizam Ali was head over heels in love with a courtesan and everyone forgot about what Aurangzeb wanted to do. And Hyderabad was back to being the city of love where kings would fall in love with courtesans, courtiers would fall in love with nobility...and it all began sometime in late sixteenth century, when a young prince Muhammad Quli Qutb Shah spotted a young girl called Bhagmati. Folklore has it that the king built a bridge for his son to let him meet his lady love. Did Muhammad Quli really meet Bhagmati at the spot where the Charminar stands? Perhaps not."Some people doubt it. Many don't believe it. But I would like to believe it. It is such a romantic story," says historian Oudesh Rani Bawa, with a twinkle in her eyes.

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But Hyderabad came to be built in 1591, and the story lives on in the name Bhagnagar which is still used by the mercantile class in Old City. And in Talab Katta, inside the compound wall of a house of a pehelwan, there is a mysterious tomb that is believed to be the grave of Bhagmati. Is it really her grave? We never know.

17TH CENTURY LOVE

Though historians have managed to nearly erase the name of Bhagmati, the names of Taramati and Premamati are very much in currency. Though a courtesan (French traveller Tavernier reported that Hyderabad had 20,000 prostitutes), Taramati was no ordinary danseuse. Muhammad Quli's grandson Abdullah, who moved the capital back to Golconda, built a dancing pavilion for her and she danced for him alone. And as you drive on the road from Golconda to Gandipet, the remnants of these love stories can be seen on either side of the road. On one side is the Taramati Baradari and on the other Premamati Masjid.

18TH CENTURY LOVE

After the Mughal conquest of Golconda, far away from the city, a family of migrants arrived with a young girl. Adopted by her much older sister who remained childless, the girl Mahalaqa Bai Chanda went on to become a famous courtesan who could sing, dance, fight and of course, make love. Among her many loves was a Englishman John Malcolm, a Maratha soldier Raja Rao Rambha and of course Nizam Ali. After she passed away, the marker affixed to the doorway leading to her grave summed up her life and conquests: Cypress of the garden of grace and rose-tree of the grove of coquetry

19TH CENTURY LOVE

Hyderabad is not just a city of love.Many Hyderabadi women can rightfully say that they have studied in the college of love. The Koti Women's College is not just grand building with a Grecian edifice, but was purpose built for love. When James Achilles Kirkpatrick became the British resident in Nizam's court, he immediately became part of intrigue. As the nobility tried to jostle for privilege, a young Khairunnisa, grand daughter of a Nizam grandee, was pushed into the arms of James Achilles Kirkpatrick. The way the love story panned out reflected the changing society. The family was torn asunder by the pulls and pressures of courtly intrigue and imperial righteousness. This story is set to come alive in a movie based on a novel by Scottish author William Dalrymple.

20TH CENTURY HEARTBREAK

Sometime in the November of 1896, a young Winston Churchill, then a soldier of Queen's Hussars, stepped into Hyderabad where he spotted Pamela Chichele Plowden. Perhaps at the Residency building, and he was smitten. He wrote to her, "I have lived all my life seeing the most beautiful women London produces... Never have I seen one for whom I would forego the business of life. Then I met you... Were I a dreamer of dreams, I would say..."Marry me and I will conquer the world and lay it at your feet."

Alas, it was not to be. Pamela was the Resident's daughter and wealthy and Churchill just another soldier who didn't have much money. In 1902, Pamela got married to someone else. Perhaps, it was this heartbreak that made Churchill such an India baiter in his later life.









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Posted: 9 years ago
^^^^^

Wow..!!!. That was really a nice read Putija. TFS. :))



By the way,

Friends,

I have got a very interesting Love Story today this Valentine's Day..!!!..


It is about Mughal Emperor Aurangzeb...He fell head over heels for someone at FIRST SIGHT...!!!! .. This post is from 3 contemporary accounts. :))

Here is the Link:: Click Here to Read..


PS : It's worth reading. I bet. ! :)

PPS : Don't be shocked. It is Aurangzeb's Love Story only. :-P


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Hindu epic in a foreign tongue


Bangalore Mirror Bureau | Feb 14, 2015, 09.01 PM IST


Hindu epic in a foreign tongue


Razmnama literally means A Book of War. The text was contemporised; the clothing and architecture depicted the India of the 1500s. A copy was made for Akbar's mother HamidaBanu which is in the possessionof the Birla House.




The Persian translation of the Mahabharata hasn't been opened since 1988, says Jayanthi Madhukar


When septuagenarian Asok Kumar Das talks about The Razmnama his eyes light up; it's his favourite subject and he was in the city, at the Mahua art gallery, recently to talk about it.
In November 1972, Das had a chance to become the Director of the Maharaja Sawai Mansingh II Museum in Jaipur. One of the reasons he accepted the job was because of The Razmnama " an exceptionally gorgeous and significant work of art. Four volumes (40.8 x 23.5 cm) " the Persian translation of the Mahabharata prepared exclusively for Akbar " were preserved in the Museum. Over 350 years old, Akbar's personal copy of The Razmnama is a treasure. Very few have been fortunate enough to see it, as it's been kept from public view. Das, a scholar of Mughal and Rajasthani art and culture, who in his career has been associated with world-class museums like Victoria & Albert Museum, London, Smithsonian Museum, Washington DC, and lately, the Indian Museum, Kolkata, is one of them.
It is said, when Akbar became the Emperor of India, he was interested to know the culture of the land that he ruled. In all probability, Das says, Akbar would have enquired about the Mahabharata and Ramayana. "Akbar may have preferred to read it in his own language which is Persian," Das says. "So, Sanskrit Brahmin scholars would have translated the Mahabharata from Sanskrit to Hindi.Following this, it would have been translated into Persian by Muslim and Persian scholars. More than a literal translation, this was more of a retelling.The royal painters would have been asked to do the paintings."
The Razmnama was commissioned in 1582. There were one lakh shlokas of the Mahabharata."The Razmnama is significant because it was the first time the Mahabharata was picturised," Das says. Until then, scenes from it were sculpted in stone in temples. The Persian copy was a project undertaken by the leading court painters of the time, those who were named in the Akbarnama by Abu Fazl, the official biographer of Akbar.
Importantly, almost all the 168 paintings of The Razmnama had the names of the composer, and the artists written on the margins of the page.Each painting involved two-three people. "After all, this was for Akbar," Das says.
Divinely executed, the miniature style paintings were made with natural colours. For instance, the colour blue was derived by grinding lapis lazuli, a semi-precious stone sourced from Badakhshan Province, the northernmost province of Afghanistan.
When Das became the director of the Museum in Jaipur, the Indo-Pak war broke out and all treasures of the Jaipur Maharaja and of the museum were put away in a vault. "I couldn't see it for more than four-five years," recalls Das, laughing at the irony.
But a visit by the Shahanshah and Shahbanu of Iran in 1978 to Jaipur meant The Razmnama was brought out of the vault. "I got one full day to see it extensively," Das says, "and a few more times in later years."
Recalling how the paintings were so bright "like it was done yesterday", Das wanted very much to take photographs. But permission was denied. The royal family feared that the originality would be lost. "I just couldn't understand why."
When he left the museum in 1988 he obtained permission for black and white pictures of some paintings of The Raznama and just one colour photograph " of a scene where Arjuna strikes the eye of a fish looking at its reflection.
Das rues that he could not get The Razmnama into the public domain. "I could not get The Razmnama published," he laments. Instead, Das has been giving lectures about it. "It is a national treasure," he points out.
He worries about the fact that since 1988, the book has not been opened. He has no idea how The Razmnama is faring. And far away from where it is preserved, he thinks about it "Always...every moment."

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Coins of Akbar Regime


alaluddin Muhammad Akbar(Jalal ud-Din Muhammad Akbar), also known as Shahanshah Akbar-E-Azam, Akbar the Great or Mahabali Shahanshah (15 october 1542 - 27 October 1605), was the third Mughal Emperor. He was of Timurid descent; the son of Humayun, and the grandson of Babur, the ruler who founded the Mughal dynasty in India. At the end of his reign in 1605 the Mughal empire covered most of the northern and central India and was one of the most powerful empires of its age.
Akbar was thirteen years old when he ascended the Mughal throne in Delhi, following the death of his father Naseeruddin Muhammad Humayun. During his reign, he eliminated military threats from the powerful Pashtun descendants of Sher Shah Suri, and at the Second Battle of Panipat he defeated the newly self-declared Hindu king Hemu. It took him nearly two more decades to consolidate his power and bring all the parts of northern and central India into his direct realm. He influenced the whole of the Indian Subcontinent as he ruled a greater part of it as an emperor. As an emperor, Akbar solidified his rule by pursuing diplomacy with the powerful Hindu Rajput caste, and by admitting Rajput princesses in his harem.

Akbar's reign significantly influenced art and culture in the country. He took a great interest in painting, and had the walls of his palaces adorned with murals. Besides encouraging the development of the Mughal school, he also patronised the European style of painting. He was fond of literature, and had several Sanskrit works translated into Persian and Persian scriptures translated in Sanskrit apart from getting many Persian works illustrated by painters from his court. During the early years of his reign, he had an intolerant attitude towards Hindus and the other religions, but he exercised great tolerance after he began marriage alliances with Rajput princesses.
His administration included numerous Hindu landlords, courtiers and military generals. He began a series of religious debates where Muslim scholars would debate religious matters with Jains, Sikhs, Hindus, Carvaka atheists, Jews, and Portuguese Roman Catholic Jesuits. He treated these religious leaders with great consideration, irrespective of their faith, and revered them. He even founded a religious cult, the Din-i-Ilahi (Divine Faith), which included the teachings of all the major religions of the world but it amounted only to a form of personality cult for Akbar and started dissolving after his death
Humayun was succeeded by his minor son, Akbar. on Friday, the 14th of February, 1556 A.D. He had experienced so many viccissi-tudes of fortune during the days of his father that he gained practical experience of ruling a kingdom beyond his age. He appointed Bairam Khan, his father's loving and loyal friend, as the Prime Minister and entrusted him with the regency. By 1575 A.D., Akbar had expanded his empire from the borders of Central Asia to Assam in the east, to the Vindhya mountains in the south and to Gujarat in the west. When he was 35, he became the master of the great empire of India. Akbar ruled for a long period of 50 years. He struck silver
Shahrukhi and dumpy copper coins similar to those issued by his predecessors. He also continued Sher Shah's silver rupiyah coins. His gold coins weighing 11 mashas (about 170 grains) were Known as "muhar". Silver Shahrukhis of 72 grains weight and silver rupiyahs 198 grains in weight had a great circulation. His copper coins of 330 grains weight were known as "dam". 40 dams were equal to 1 silver rupiyah and 9 rupiyahs were equal to 1 muhar in value.
Akbar also struck gold muhars which had a value of 10 and 12 rupiyahs. He brought innovation in his coins He was the first Mughal emperor who issued fractional coins in gold, silver and copper. Silver rupiyah coins were struck in three denominations, viz.. 1, 1/2 and 1/4. of a rupiyah. His copper coins in the denomination of 1/2 were known as nasfi. 1/4 as dam and 1/8 part as damn or damdi Akbar also struck heavy copper coins of 632 to 644 grains weight which were known as "Tanka" Inscription on these coins was simple The obverse of the coin carried only two words""Tanka Akbari" and the reverse showed the llahi year. Fractional tanka coins In 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 and 1/16 denominations were popular.
Akbar brought about a change in the shape of his coins. He issued gold, silver and copper coins in round, square, rectangular and mihrabi shapes. He was the only Mughal emperor who issued 26 types (varieties) of gold coins. Some popular gold coins to name are"Emperor. Rahas. Atmah. Binsat, Jugul, Lalejalali, Aftabi, llahi, Lale Jalahi. Adalgutka, Maherabi. Muini, Gird, Dhan, Salimi. Man, Samni, Kala. Rabi The Shahenshah gold coin weighed 102 tolas Most of these were commemorative coins His name was struck on Shahrukhi silver coins either with and without titles on the reverse, which read as Jalaluddin Muhar


Coins of Akbar era
Title

Akbar Copper Dam Later Issue

Akbar Copper Damri

Akbar Copper Damra

Akbar Copper Nisfi

Akbar Copper Dam

Akbar Copper Tanki

Akbar Copper 2 Tanki

Akbar Copper 4 Tanki

Akbar Copper 1/4 Dam






Akbar Silver 1/10 Rupee

Akbar Silver 1/8 Rupee

Akbar Silver 1/4 Rupee

Akbar Silver 1/2 Rupee

Akbar Silver 1/2 Misqal

Akbar Silver 1/2 Unit

Akbar Silver Unit

Akbar Silver Rupee

Akbar Gold 1/10 Mohur

Akbar Gold Mohur

Akbar Gold Heavy 1/2 Mohur

Akbar Gold Heavy Mohur


Akbar Copper Tanka

MUGHAL EMPIRE
JALAL-UD-DIN-MUHAMMAD AKBAR
16

Tanka (Hammered Dump Coinage) Description


* Metal: Copper
* Weight: 6.55 gms
* Mint : Three Mints

* Obv : Tanka Akbar
* Rev : Mint name, Ilahi date

* Shape : Square


SL NO MINT ILAHI / AD RY DESCRIPTION KM #
183 Burhanpur IE45 / 1600 1 - 47.2
184 Salimabad IE4x / - - - 47.3
185 Ujjainpur IE45 / 1600 1 - 47.1
186 Ujjainpur IE47 / 1602 3 - 47.1
187 W/o Mint name ND / - -

Obv : Kalima
Rev :
Emperors full name

48.1
MUGHAL EMPIRE
JALAL-UD-DIN-MUHAMMAD AKBAR
17

Tanka Description


* Metal: Copper
* Weight: 41.10 gms
* Mint : Three Mints

* Obv : Border of dots
* Rev : Border of dots

* Shape : Round

SL NO MINT ILAHI / AD RY DESCRIPTION KM #
212 Ahmadabad IE45 / 1600 1 - 38.2
213 Ahmadabad IE46 / 1601 2 - 38.2
214 Bairata IE48 / 1603 4 - 38.3
215 Bairata IE50 / 1605 6 - 38.3
216 Gobindpur IE45 / 1600 1 - 38.5
217 Gobindpur IE46 / 1601 2 - 38.5
218 Gobindpur IE47 / 1602 3 - 38.5


Akbar Gold Heavy Mohur

MUGHAL EMPIRE
JALAL-UD-DIN-MUHAMMAD AKBAR
1

Heavy Mohur Description

* Metal: Gold
* Weight: 12.2 gms
* Mint : Two Mints

* Obv : Duck, Ornamented field
* Rev : Hawk to
right
* Shape : Round

SL NO MINT ILAHI / AD RY DESCRIPTION KM #
1 Agra IE50 / 1605 6

Obv : Duck, Ornamented field

119C.2
2 Agra IE47 / 1602 3

Obv : Hawk to left, Ornamented field
Rev : Mint and Date Leg : 'Allahu Akbar'

119C.3
3 Asir IE45 /1600 1

Obv : Hawk to right

119C.1


Akbar Gold 1/2 Mohur

MUGHAL EMPIRE
JALAL-UD-DIN-MUHAMMAD AKBAR
4

1/2 Mohur Description

* Metal: Gold
* Weight: 5.15 gms
* Mint : Two Mints

* Obv : Kalima
* Rev : Akbars name and titles

* Shape : Round

SL NO MINT ILAHI / AD RY DESCRIPTION KM #
25 Agra IE48 / 1603 4 - 103.1
26 Agra IE50 / 1605 6 - 103.1
27 Lahore IE48 / 1603 4 - 103.2
28 Lahore IE50 / 1605 6

Obv : Sita and Rama
Rev : Ilahi and Persian month

104.1


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