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Posted: 12 years ago
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@desicrowd hez lyk dis only from did days...n i dnt need to tell how many times he hav misbehavd with fellow cntstants n judges..y he din sai b4 till the tym he was in competition..
I dnt hav ny link..but in her live chat se said it...that rashmi deserves to win bcoz she is versatile..while isha is a grt dancer bt only gud in wat she has been trained...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: salmangirl

@desicrowd hez lyk dis only from did days...n i dnt need to tell how many times he hav misbehavd with fellow cntstants n judges..y he din sai b4 till the tym he was in competition..
I dnt hav ny link..but in her live chat se said it...that rashmi deserves to win bcoz she is versatile..while isha is a grt dancer bt only gud in wat she has been trained...


Do you have a YouTube link for Shibanis interview? I would like to see it...
As for being versatile or not it's a persons POV... If Shibani was bitter she wud have given interviews like Gia Talking on and on abt how the world conspired against her..,but she is giving her opinion on who she thinks deserves and it's okay I think...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Me_Anonymous



just a correction: Isha's first 30 was for an out and out Bollywood Dance number - The Dirty Picture. I hate it when people forget any contestants earlier performances and only mention the recent ones.

I would agree with Jai if he was completely right about that. Yes, Isha's Bollywood & Hip-Hop in week 10 were not good but that does not mean she can't do a bollywood dance and excel in it which she has done earlier.

In the past week or so I have updated the wikipedia JDJ5 page and noticed that Isha's first 30 was a Bollywood number. I honestly hope people (other contestants and the general population) would leave this poor girl alone.

Isha has not excelled in aerial acts only but a lot of floors acts too:
Freestyle (1st performance) - yes the performance started with rope mallakhamb but that was only for the first 35-40 seconds or so the rest was floor dance;
Pasodoble (3rd performance);
Freestyle (Puppet Dance) (4th performance, may be 5 or 6 seconds were aerial but majorly floor dnace);
Contemporary (horror) (5th performance);
Bachata (6th performance);
Bollywood Contemporary (Zindagi ka safar, 7th performance);
Afro & Chau (9th performance);
Freestyle (Satrangi, 12th performance but week 11).

All of these have been floor acts except for only the Aerial Hoop (or ring dance) that was full on Aerial (Isha's part only).

Verstality? I see lots of that in these performances. All of these performances expressed different emotions, yes they might seem the same to people what with the addition of lifts but all of the major dance forms include lifts. I personally had a problem with them getting 30 for Bachata performance due to coordination problems in one of the steps but may be I am being too strict here so won't comment further on that. But other than that, Isha has shown verstality more than anyone else. Especially the Afro & Chau performance where the dance required two different forms of energy to be put into and Isha did that wonderfully (check Madhuri's comment for reference if its difficult to find in the acutal performance).

And the Ballroom dance I had major issues with her body form. When I think of Ballroom, I think of straight and strong body posture especially the torso, shoulders and arms. Isha's was very weak at times (which was called for due to the B&B story, she is scared so a weak posture was necessary). I think they should have gotten maybe 27 or something less but since this is JDJ the focus is not on International dance forms alone but majorly Indian/bollywood dance forms so by that standard their performance was excellent but strictly speaking it wasn't.

Yes, full on dance performances are good but how many times can you watch only dance with no story? once, twice, thrice? trust me, the fourth time it'd be boring.

Out of all the performances so far done by all contestants on a Bollywood Dance form, for me, Isha's The Dirty Picture is the best - not only in terms of choreography but dance, expressions, etc too. But again, that is my opinion only - not a fact. I respect that everyone has their own opinions and there might be some who would disagree with me but I only hope that people base their opinions on facts and not half-facts/half-others opinions.

One more thing, I like Isha's one statement that she has said on the show "[you try something new - ] sometimes you fail, sometimes you succeed". So if her hip-hop/bollywood dance wasn't a great success, doesn't mean she cannot do hip-hop or bollywood. Others who have tried strict hip-hop are Shibani, Rithvik and Bharti only of which only Rithvik and Shibani's was good. Infact, Shibani's wasn't stricly a hip-hop only dance. Hip-hop is rithvik's forte just like aerial is Isha's but Isha can do other dance forms as I explained earlier.
Darsheel, Rithvik and gia tried lyrical hip-hop which is different from hip-hop.

Others can fail at some dance forms but Isha can't? She is a human the same as everyone else, she is allowed to fail. If not, then so should everyone else be.

Note Bharti, Gurmeet and Karan's last few performances which weren't great.

Agreed, Rithvik and Rashmi's performances are good but try doing dance for 11 weeks straight and only 4 weeks straight, you'll see the difference yourself. Doing one thing again and again takes a toll on anyone. Some of Darsheel's performances have been good but only about 2 have been excellent: Lyrical Hip-hop (week 4) and week 10 Partner performance. The aerial performance was great but not excellent.

Shibani was improving with each performance but week 9, she wasn't so good either (scored the lowest). Bharti's earlier performances were good but as weeks progressed her dancing seems to be not as good as earlier.

I don't know how many of you noticed this but Isha couldn't perform with heels. She had real trouble with that but she did in her 3rd performance. I call that progress and learning & improving.

I have yet to see a performance of Darsheel and Avneet's where I am left completely speechless. I liked their Pehla Nasha performance the best so far. The DDLJ performance, I did not like it at all (but that's just my opinion).

This show is a "reality-show", a contest, the strongest (in terms of dance and votes) survives. Medicores don't, unless they have fans willing to vote to keep them in (I am NOT talking about anyone in particular here but talking about reality-shows in general).

This is my 2nd reality show after JDJ1 that I have followed from 1st episode and I have to say that so far Isha has been the only contest whose talent has compelled me to vote for her (online only) but no one else did. I have watched other bits and pieces of other reality shows (including JDJ2, 3 and 4) and in my opinion so far Isha and Shweta Salve have been the best in terms of dance. Others might disagree and they are more than welcome to but I can only hope that people would make statements keeping in mind all the facts and not ignoring some while mentioning those that agree with their viewpoint.

p.s. I guess I have done enough rambling here to cover the last 4-5 years I had left IF, lol.



Bang on word to word πŸ‘
I am glad at least there are some people who don't go blabber around without including facts in their arguments. I have seen same old statements that Isha only does aerial and that too without including any facts or ignoring the same facts. She has done many different dance forms and that is versatility, may be there can be few similar looking postures in their acts, doesn't mean they are one and same.

So awesome job and welcome back to JDJ forum. Even I am on the same boat as you, followed season 1 and 5 closely while saw bits and pieces of other seasons. I am so delighted to read your post πŸ˜ƒπŸ˜ƒ
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I agree with Jay too with regard to Isha's performances. She's a good performer but that Bollywood act was crap. I even shared my displeasure when this act was aired. Her expressions were doze worthy and I ended up concentrating on Salman instead

I still wonder why she hasn't even tried hip hop or classical. I'm slightly disappointed with Salman because I wait for hip hop and classical every week but he still hasn't delivered that yet :( We can't judge her versatility if she doesn't try such forms

I'm not writing Isha off but being a fan of Salman, I hope he justifies these questions about her versatility sooner rather than later cuz Isha's a a good performer. She deserves the appreciation she gets but it doesn't mean she can't go beyond her boundaries
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrManagement

Jai always seems to get jealous of the person who is performing most consistently. The something happened in DID 1, Lil masters, and Dance ke superstars. Isha has excelled in almost ever dance form like ME_Anomonous pointed above so I don't what Jai is talking about.


Oh you're sooo right!! How can we ever forget the way he behaved during DID 1? He had so many issues with Salman & Prince. Then Lil Masters ahhh and Dance ke superstars when he took a dig at Shiamak πŸ˜† This guy very badly needs sour grapes

But in this case I agree with his remark on Isha, especially about that Bollywood act. Yes, Isha was fab in almost all of the performances like ME_Anomonous has pointed out but still there I still feel there's a void in which she still has to fill

Damn it I don't know why I'm defending Jai Kumar despite disliking him. I think I've lost it big time 🀣
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Bollywood ka ek dialogue yaad ayaa, Jai Nair ke munh kholne pe(Big mouth guy):
"Bhains poonch uthaigi to gaana nahin gayegi. Gobar hi karegi"
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: desicrowd


Do you have a YouTube link for Shibanis interview? I would like to see it...
As for being versatile or not it's a persons POV... If Shibani was bitter she wud have given interviews like Gia Talking on and on abt how the world conspired against her..,but she is giving her opinion on who she thinks deserves and it's okay I think...

a big tym sry from my side ...i misunderstood her statement ...she din said lyk that ...if u want i can copy her statement ..its on jhalak site...feeling bad that i misunderstood her ...
But i still dnt agree with jay ...hez just jealous ... n hez like this only from ages ...he wud have been on 7 th sky ...if he wud have got smeone like isha sharvani
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Jai is kind of out spoken from DID days. His POV is not a "generalized truth". It's his POV. Many of us don't think as he does. Rashmi, Isha nd RD, all three are good but comparing RD and Rashmi with Isha is quite not done for me. Isha is one consistent dancer where she portrayed and performed some unique concepts with justifying dance whereas RD and Rashmi just entered and already have a rare view of JDJ 5. If it is about being versatile, still how Rashmi and Isha can be compared. No way in my POV..😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
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may be..
bt she is excellentπŸ˜›
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Posted: 12 years ago
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t seems as if isha does arial act each week...wat they got against her man she loves dancing...she tried bollywood too...that dirty picture was bollywood styel...paso was kind of mexican touch...the day salman was not well there was classical dance...she tries all risky dance not simple thats y we all love her
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