Resurgence | Arshi FF | Thread 4 | A/N on Pg 70 - Page 23

Originally posted by: SwatStar_Arshi

Arpita,

Thank you for asking about the bullying, I didn’t want to but I am sharing one last comment, classic example why I felt compelled to write the Messiah note to appeal -

I don't remember direct interaction with her before or after. While I will never deny how and why I was the harshest person to criticize Arnav, the fiction character of the story which you always encouraged, how fair it is to jump into fellow readers’ discussions and start brutally passing judgements like you have made assumptions, person you are talking does not exist in the story, character is made up in your mind, made up in your head indirectly calling me crazy, how you are wrong and I 200% disagree with everything you said etc.

Then comes open threatening saying she cannot keep quiet if I say against Arnav, the fictional character and she declared that it is needless; you can verify my feedback was purely about the character to you based on what I felt, and she is not the writer. I was beaten to death by questions for my different views other times, had to tell not to force their beliefs, we can respectfully disagree, and I am exhausted.

Even now I am judged point by point comments or feedback under paragraphs were bad when these people commented first on my feedback to the writer, and they were worse. It's hard to process suddenly I have no freedom to express my views the way I want without being judged like this.

When I mentioned I was already offended by her comments and challenged to prove me wrong or offered to prove my point about the story's character (nothing personal), it was never acknowledged or took accountability for, maybe I always resolved differences before so I expected too much, not any more. I had no clue how to highlight such issues, hence the appeal and today I see I am still the culprit for appealing!

I never involved with these people again. But this is unacceptable, why this kind of direct attack on a fellow reader with different views, different writing style, why corner someone like this and dictate even the format for their feedback? Is this normal? I see no freedom, complete lack of respect, missing basic courtesy to allow people to express freely?

Two days of work travel; the forced detox gave me much-needed clarity on what I was missing; the fun, my own stupid craziness and positivity!

I thoroughly enjoyed my stint here – Bang bang, MaLa D fun blast, my hall of fame stupid boxer poem, my epic comparison of your story with Star Wars, JEDIs and the Yoda, another silly poem about Arnav seeing Khushi first time etc. I came up with the fun contest idea to have alternate ending where all readers put on their thinking caps, sent you their version and you get to choose what you like and write it in your way! Thankfully I was always able to difference between feedback on the chapters, appreciate diverse opinions versus keep your opinions about story aside, bring all the readers together and have fun! This is who I am, and I prefer to remain this way!

With these positive thoughts, my JEDI sense prevails! I choose to walk away from this story! I reflected on everything to conclude; I will regret heavily if I continue to be here! And I don't do regrets, I take things head on, sort, and move on! Thanks to myself I am not leaving the story in the middle, I wrote in detail the alternate ending for the contest which exactly fits after the current chapter! So I have my closure!

JEDI- Jedi a famous character from world popular movie series Star Wars, was a guardian of peace and justice in the Galactic Republic. It's a huge complement.

Three Cheers, ❤️❤️ ❤️ ❤️

Swati

Hi Swati,

I can see again you assumed a lot. I said I cannot keep quiet and listen to the Arnav bashing. That is what I meant. How you took that as I threatened you is beyond me. I never even implied you are crazy. You agreed with someone 200% and in the same vein I disagreed. I am sorry to say you took everything out of context. Please let me be crystal clear- I neither called you crazy nor did I threaten you. Like you dislike the character Arnav I empathize with him. Some like Arnavs character and some Khushi. I like both and support both. You don’t need to prove why he is bad and likewise I don’t need to prove to you why I feel for him. We both took away different emotions from this. Every person who hates Arnav - it’s their right likewise if we like him that’s our right.

But you crossed lines and called us vultures and messiahs and hypocrites etc other names I can’t even remember right now. This is definitely bullying.

You want to read the story or not is completely upto you. But please be advised you being in the forum, to read the story or not is your decision and nothing to do with any of us.

We want everyone to be able to share their opinions and comment as they wish to while being respectful to others opinion. This is a free for all forum and we want it to continue that way. We want to appreciate the fantastic writing the author has published so far and continue to read her wonderful work. Everyone is entitled to the same.

My earnest wish is to go back to the fun forum it once used to be and enjoy the awesome story the author was kind enough to share with us.

Originally posted by: SwatStar_Arshi

Arpita,

Thank you for asking about the bullying, I didn’t want to but I am sharing one last comment, classic example why I felt compelled to write the Messiah note to appeal -

I don't remember direct interaction with her before or after. While I will never deny how and why I was the harshest person to criticize Arnav, the fiction character of the story which you always encouraged, how fair it is to jump into fellow readers’ discussions and start brutally passing judgements like you have made assumptions, person you are talking does not exist in the story, character is made up in your mind, made up in your head indirectly calling me crazy, how you are wrong and I 200% disagree with everything you said etc.

Then comes open threatening saying she cannot keep quiet if I say against Arnav, the fictional character and she declared that it is needless; you can verify my feedback was purely about the character to you based on what I felt, and she is not the writer. I was beaten to death by questions for my different views other times, had to tell not to force their beliefs, we can respectfully disagree, and I am exhausted.

Even now I am judged point by point comments or feedback under paragraphs were bad when these people commented first on my feedback to the writer, and they were worse. It's hard to process suddenly I have no freedom to express my views the way I want without being judged like this.

When I mentioned I was already offended by her comments and challenged to prove me wrong or offered to prove my point about the story's character (nothing personal), it was never acknowledged or took accountability for, maybe I always resolved differences before so I expected too much, not any more. I had no clue how to highlight such issues, hence the appeal and today I see I am still the culprit for appealing!

I never involved with these people again. But this is unacceptable, why this kind of direct attack on a fellow reader with different views, different writing style, why corner someone like this and dictate even the format for their feedback? Is this normal? I see no freedom, complete lack of respect, missing basic courtesy to allow people to express freely?

Two days of work travel; the forced detox gave me much-needed clarity on what I was missing; the fun, my own stupid craziness and positivity!

I thoroughly enjoyed my stint here – Bang bang, MaLa D fun blast, my hall of fame stupid boxer poem, my epic comparison of your story with Star Wars, JEDIs and the Yoda, another silly poem about Arnav seeing Khushi first time etc. I came up with the fun contest idea to have alternate ending where all readers put on their thinking caps, sent you their version and you get to choose what you like and write it in your way! Thankfully I was always able to difference between feedback on the chapters, appreciate diverse opinions versus keep your opinions about story aside, bring all the readers together and have fun! This is who I am, and I prefer to remain this way!

With these positive thoughts, my JEDI sense prevails! I choose to walk away from this story! I reflected on everything to conclude; I will regret heavily if I continue to be here! And I don't do regrets, I take things head on, sort, and move on! Thanks to myself I am not leaving the story in the middle, I wrote in detail the alternate ending for the contest which exactly fits after the current chapter! So I have my closure!

JEDI- Jedi a famous character from world popular movie series Star Wars, was a guardian of peace and justice in the Galactic Republic. It's a huge complement.

Three Cheers, ❤️❤️ ❤️ ❤️

Swati

Hi Swati, I will be a little frank here in the response to your post.

You or any other reader leaving is the last thing I would ever want. Irrespective of your belief or opinions about the story. You can go and check my responses from thread 1. I have always said that all opinions are always welcome here and I will always clarify things. It saddens me to see this decision.

But at the same time I have also said that I understand when readers want to back off for their own peace. There are several who have done so. Initially my response to that was always panicking and asking them to stay, but there have been instances where even I wanted to step away so I understand and respect it.

I hope you see this post because I want to clarify a few things.

I had no clue how to highlight such issues, hence the appeal and today I see I am still the culprit for appealing!

You are absolutely not the culprit for appealing. As a matter of principle I always stayed away from any direct interaction between any two parties of any clashing views. You called me in stating that you felt what people were writing was bullying. I simply stated that I did not think it was bullying but rather support to me when I said I wanted to step away and not think about the story. They were also reiterating what I said and expressing their POV and in my eyes they didn’t deserve the name calling on a public forum.

My intention was never to make you the culprit but to answer the question you asked me directly/indirectly. I would apologise if my response made you feel like that but I had to come clean about what I thought of the situation.

Rest every interaction between any readers including you has always had my support. There were harsh comments but they would always have my support in form of likes/quotes irrespective of the fact that the opinion maybe harsh on the story or character or even to other readers.

I thought this was adults engaging in fruitful conversations who probably are elder to me and know more. I had no authority to interfere and yet when the things grew harsh on readers (including you), there are always my comments of reminding everyone to calm down.

I would never want you or any other readers to think this was a place where you couldn’t speak your mind. I would be naive to say that I did not see how heated discussions can get to an individual and affect them, but I have always thought you people handled it well on your own end. It makes me sad that you feel that about this space. 💔

Having said that, I agree with you. I do miss the good times too. Terribly so. And in case you would want to return to that, I would be very happy to see that, and from the following comments, other readers too!

I see that other readers have already replied to that and I agree to the point they made. They have shared direct instances where they felt grievance and laid down the points. I hope you understand where they were coming from and what pinched them too. Kindly read their response with an open mind. I’m glad they want to engage in direct conversation.

And more importantly, everyone wants this to be a place where they can say their own mind and listen to others too. I hope you consider that as well, you’ve been an active part of the story and I would like to see that in the old fun and dignified manner it used to be <3

Originally posted by: -Arpi-

Hello Arpita,

First of all, I want to apologize if this comes off as a spam. I will take up the chance and assume its welcomed here. People don't fill up threads after threads without spamming.

But I did say to you that I want to fill up pages after pages with your characters. I want to make good on that promise.

I want to talk so much about your Khushi since the last chapter. Few lines have refused to leave me. Please indulge my pretentious language. The words may not be as beautiful as yours but they're close to my heart.

When you read Darwish, an idea emerges. Darwish rejects the idea that love is blind. He instead believes that love sees all, flaws and quirks, and it still embraces. For him love lies in relinquishing control. For him baring one's soul and surrendering is the only way one could truly be in love. I am one of those hopeless fools who believe in these words.

Your eyes are a thorn in my heart

Inflicting pain, yet I cherish that thorn

And shield it from the wind.

I sheathe it in my flesh, I sheathe it, protecting it from night and agony,

And its wound lights the lanterns,

Its tomorrow makes my present.

Dearer to me than my soul.

This is a lover in agony, mourning a love that was lost. It's a thorn in the heart, its painful and yet the lover would choose this pain over everything else.

This was the only poem I could think of when Khushi said these lines.

"When I was away from you, the pain of missing you overtook everything else. I didn’t think about Lavanya or how you had behaved with me because I was paralyzed by not having you around me."

Oh, my world what a beautiful line Arpita. This shows me just how deep in love Khushi really was. Pain of not having him around and the realization that he may be lost to her forever was so magnanimous that no other agony, even being cheated on came close to it.

She loves him in a way that Rumi loved his god, the way Sufi saints loved the divine, the way a devotee looks forward to moksha...

That woman did not once question his statements when he said he did not have an affair and met the other woman for the sake of responsibility. She admits that immediately. Tells him that she loved him for this, and yet questions him why did she not receive the same treatment from him? For Arnav, she has the kind of love people write immortal poems about. The ultimate surrender.

The worst part of it all, and the section that I found toughest to navigate was Khushi's realization that her unshakable faith that Arnav loved her has been challenged since last so many months, and her heart had finally accepted an answer. He never loved her. She was always a responsibility. My heart was bleeding for her in that section.

He kept quiet. He was letting her go when it was someone else. Understanding dawned on her as well as the pain. His silence was again enough for her.

“Oh, so it’s the guilt again. Doing the right thing because I am somehow still your responsibility?” This time, her tone was accusatory.

This was tough to read. In plain and simple words this was so tough to read. She is reliving the taruma she has dealt with for last three months. Arnav confirmed it and more. And I would not expect any other reaction from a woman this pure.

Yes Pure. I do not want to use the word naive. Its derogatory to this character. I wrote a poem above and I am a firm believer of it. She saw all that was in Arnav, and she chose to love him with her soul mortgaged to him. She was not Naive and stupid in love. She was pure. And purity is often not appreciated. And that is why her hurt is so big it hurts us.

And Arnav... I want to write so much about him too. But I feel that I lack something.

I believe he does love Khushi. His heart may have been at the right place. But I don't feel he loves Khushi the way Khushi loves him. Not the way she deserves to be loved. But then, can anyone really be expected to do justice to a love like Khushi? I don't think so.

His realization in this chapter has cut me deep. After 10 years, he was sure that Khushi loved him way too much. I remember he was sure that Khushi loved him so much that she would choose him over her happiness, and he did not want that.

That selflessness of him is the only saving grace and the sliver of hope that I have for this character. That he knows he does not love Khushi as much as she loves him, but he can be right to her. He can do right by her. It's just so unbelievably sad that his definition of right has hurt Khushi to the point where she is questioning her devotion.

But he did not know the actual depth of her love and that realization has pulled the ground from under his feet. When Khushi accepted all that he said as gospel, and even tried to find reasons to forgive him, I can see him dying at that thought. That he has wrecked a trust so deep, a love so intense.

She had given up. He had snuff out the light that burnt so bright in those hazel eyes that kept his own world from drowning into darkness. He had dimmed the life in a woman who has once breathed life in everything she touched. Even his cursed self.

It was a good thing human heart was not as fragile as it was made out to be in poems because right at this response, Arnav’s would have stopped.

Heart shattering lines.

I can only equate his condition to this one line

Khud ko tanha paate paate, humne apno ko kho diya...

I want to write more on him, but I feel something is missing. Like there is something lurking right under the surface that will break free now.

Maybe that is why the title is resurgence. Maybe now Arnav would love her to the extent of devotion while Khushi finds herself. That would make this story come full circle and still break my heart.

In absolute awe of your pen my friend. Had to post this here when I read your last note. This is way too special and has too much potential to be left at this junction. I hope you find your inspiration among so many of us that don't want to read a single thing other than what your story and your words portray.

I don't want to read any other analysis, any other facts or figures to tell me what is right and what is wrong. I am selfish and only interested in what you want to tell me. In what your "flawed and humane" characters have done. That is enough for me, and I hope that is enough for you too. That is the whole point of reading someone else's words.

First of all, so very sorry for not replying sooner. I have several good comments to get back to but I will most likely again take time and that won’t be fair.

I’ve said that several comments on this FF have left me speechless. I’m baffled by them and I bookmark them. I go back to them for inspiration repeatedly. This is definitely one of those. I cried reading this and I’ve read this so many times I can probably recite the whole thing.♥️

I also didn’t reply because this is one of those comments where whatever I say will fall short to actually express my gratitude. Your words honour Khushi ♥️ You showered so much love on her and her love. You pulled out words that summarise her in my own heart. Pure not naive is a line that really touched me.

And what you say about Arnav ♥️

I’m glad you feel that way about him. Yes, to love like Khushi one needs to be vulnerable. Is Khushi’s and Arnav’s love different from each other and will remain so is probably a great question to ask.

Thank you once again. The poems have my heart ♥️😊♥️

Originally posted by: shyamidutt

Hi Swati,

I can see again you assumed a lot. I said I cannot keep quiet and listen to the Arnav bashing. That is what I meant. How you took that as I threatened you is beyond me. I never even implied you are crazy. You agreed with someone 200% and in the same vein I disagreed. I am sorry to say you took everything out of context. Please let me be crystal clear- I neither called you crazy nor did I threaten you. Like you dislike the character Arnav I empathize with him. Some like Arnavs character and some Khushi. I like both and support both. You don’t need to prove why he is bad and likewise I don’t need to prove to you why I feel for him. We both took away different emotions from this. Every person who hates Arnav - it’s their right likewise if we like him that’s our right.

But you crossed lines and called us vultures and messiahs and hypocrites etc other names I can’t even remember right now. This is definitely bullying.

You want to read the story or not is completely upto you. But please be advised you being in the forum, to read the story or not is your decision and nothing to do with any of us.

We want everyone to be able to share their opinions and comment as they wish to while being respectful to others opinion. This is a free for all forum and we want it to continue that way. We want to appreciate the fantastic writing the author has published so far and continue to read her wonderful work. Everyone is entitled to the same.

My earnest wish is to go back to the fun forum it once used to be and enjoy the awesome story the author was kind enough to share with us.

You alone don't get to decide what happened to you is bullying but what you did is NOT because your conclusion suits you.

I have nothing to do with you liking any character and defending them and stick to writing about them. But personal attacks like it is in your mind, it's in your head is completely uncalled for and indirectly calling them or making them feel negative and crazy is definitely bullying (guaranteed in America) despite the fact that your comments were never backed with any proper explanation from the story till date. The other person is forced to think and discouraged to even provide feedback next time.

Just because I used certain words, I am wrong while you get away with direct attacks discouraging the fellow reader is NOT correct. This is equally unacceptable, bullying and you crossed the line first here. What you did is also not mature behavior.

You can defend the character with your observation versus mine is acceptable but you walked away when I asked specifics and proofs.

Then in this chain you say you don't need to prove point by point when it's in the story, this is again discouraging others to ask questions or why they came to certain conclusion about character's behavior. Everyone replies in unique way and it should be respected, they can write paragraphs, one liner or point by point is their choice and even forum is NOT forcing us to use specific writing style format. If everything is in the story, we would not be on link 4. I am not sure why are you deciding how fellow readers should be expressing killing our freedom.

I feel any comment that discourages fellow readers especially direct attacks to express themselves is equally bad bullying and especially when it contradicts with writer's point of view. The writer wants everyone to participate in active feedback that she can use in improving things.

Arpita - I do NOT wish to continue this back and forth but I will reply to you after replying to Shyami, ARILIP and You-know one time.

Originally posted by: SwatStar_Arshi

You alone don't get to decide what happened to you is bullying but what you did is NOT because your conclusion suits you.

I have nothing to do with you liking any character and defending them and stick to writing about them. But personal attacks like it is in your mind, it's in your head is completely uncalled for and indirectly calling them or making them feel negative and crazy is definitely bullying (guaranteed in America) despite the fact that your comments were never backed with any proper explanation from the story till date. The other person is forced to think and discouraged to even provide feedback next time.

Just because I used certain words, I am wrong while you get away with direct attacks discouraging the fellow reader is NOT correct. This is equally unacceptable, bullying and you crossed the line first here. What you did is also not mature behavior.

You can defend the character with your observation versus mine is acceptable but you walked away when I asked specifics and proofs.

Then in this chain you say you don't need to prove point by point when it's in the story, this is again discouraging others to ask questions or why they came to certain conclusion about character's behavior. Everyone replies in unique way and it should be respected, they can write paragraphs, one liner or point by point is their choice and even forum is NOT forcing us to use specific writing style format. If everything is in the story, we would not be on link 4. I am not sure why are you deciding how fellow readers should be expressing killing our freedom.

I feel any comment that discourages fellow readers especially direct attacks to express themselves is equally bad bullying and especially when it contradicts with writer's point of view. The writer wants everyone to participate in active feedback that she can use in improving things.

Arpita - I do NOT wish to continue this back and forth but I will reply to you after replying to Shyami, ARILIP and You-know one time.

Ok I did not call you crazy or threatened you. Please understand that first. I said you imagined the Arnav you bashed very badly. I have been living in America last 25 years so I may have missed out on what you call bullying in India.

I did not discourage anyone from making any comments. I just objected to the harsh words you used against Arnav a character I empathize with. That’s neither bullying nor discouraging.


In America calling people vultures and messiahs and hypocrites is bullying. I did not cross any line and if you took offense to something I did not say then I seriously give up.

You are right I don’t get to decide anything but please let me point out you don’t get to decide anything either.

Also let me reiterate that I did not discourage anyone from expressing their views nor did my comments do that. I never killed anyone’s freedom. Please stop twisting words to suit your point. You are being very very harsh when I said nothing wrong. Also stop putting words in my mouth. This is definitely bullying.

Disclaimer: Everyone else - silent readers or not - please know I’m not stopping anyone from commenting or discouraging anyone from expressing their views and I am definitely not killing anyone’s freedom.

If anything I’m m being discouraged from expressing my views and being attacked.

Thread 4 page 30.and not a single chapter yet not forgetting the awesome chapter in Thread 3...you weave magic and its so evident here..I enjoy reading the comments back and forth and try as much as I can I cannot be someone who can write pages on how good your work is..looking forward to the update

Originally posted by: shyamidutt

Ok I did not call you crazy or threatened you. Please understand that first. I said you imagined the Arnav you bashed very badly. I have been living in America last 25 years so I may have missed out on what you call bullying in India.

I did not discourage anyone from making any comments. I just objected to the harsh words you used against Arnav a character I empathize with. That’s neither bullying nor discouraging.

In America calling people vultures and messiahs and hypocrites is bullying. I did not cross any line and if you took offense to something I did not say then I seriously give up.

You are right I don’t get to decide anything but please let me point out you don’t get to decide anything either.

Also let me reiterate that I did not discourage anyone from expressing their views nor did my comments do that. I never killed anyone’s freedom. Please stop twisting words to suit your point. You are being very very harsh when I said nothing wrong. Also stop putting words in my mouth. This is definitely bullying.

Disclaimer: Everyone else - silent readers or not - please know I’m not stopping anyone from commenting or discouraging anyone from expressing their views and I am definitely not killing anyone’s freedom.

If anything I’m m being discouraged from expressing my views and being attacked.

I live in America too for years and telling someone "It is in your mind, it is in your head while disagreeing with other's point of view" is bullying in America.

And you saying "I cannot keep quiet when the character is being bashed" is threatening. I am allowed writing about a character as per the writer and you are discouraging it.

I am not twisting anything here, this is how you wrote on my comments.

I am just so exhausted to respond anymore, you decide your point of view. I would rather request mutual distance and no comments from each other.

Hi Swati

I had thought i would never interact directly with you again but I am forced to !!!! I read the story and commented my understanding and speculation . Arpita being the really sweetheart bothered to reply and address any misunderstanding I have , there were other ppl too but all of them did it really decently.

Now you come and start quoting my post:

Originally posted by SwatStar_Arshi

What makes you think only Arnav bared responsibilities? Khushi at the age of 19 took the responsibility to run the house and even today he is proud of her skills, every corner of the house is so beautiful, people actually want to see it!

She tried to help with dabba business, was managing HIS family and their financial as well as emotional needs by visiting them more than he could, even ran NGO helping needy; all these he truly appreciates clearly initially and even now..

She was the only one trying to med the relationship, he decided to move on or fell out of love, accepted but why do it the most shitty way??????

We will know about his fear about the baby, but discussion solves even wars, this was nothing..

You went personal the very first line but I took it on a sporting spirit, you had your opinion I had mine - I did not go personal here at all but backed my question with my own observation that Arnav and Khushi both worked equally hard. This was nothing to do with you as a person.

I replied I am sorry, I wish I read this story as Amazon kindle book . I realise more than the chapters the comments are effecting me. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and forums such as this gives us free access to speak our minds .

I have come to realise that my comments came through as I am supporting Arnav!!! I will never support how he hurt khushi. How he handled the whole divorce situation. And the adultery is unacceptable.

But my problem was always khushi’s take on things. Maybe I don’t understand her at all. But I would never think she deserved what she got . I was just speculating what went wrong because the characters doesn’t seem to behave like how the story is going. We don’t know what went wrong I would now stop speculating.

I am sorry, if I hurt anyone’s feelings. I would now sit back and enjoy the story. For my own sanity!!! My husband is already thinking I have lost it !!! Seeing me buried in my phone !!!!

You replied:

Ari - My purpose to reply you was to show Arnav had certain personality traits that reflect throughout including his aloofness, run away from the situation as his father mentioned, block communication, adamancy and control freak, decision making style expecting others to abide by.. And disrespecting their marriage, ill treating Khushi and affair was icing on the cake y Arnav!

Still Khushi made it work by her poised nature, simplicity and straight forward thiking, fresh and positive personality and adjusting with a smile and in return he was positive and nice to her too most times.. Khushi here has definitely done more compromise to make relationship work, being a house wife, village girl doesn't take it away from her! Men would die to get such a wonderful girl in their life!

You can continue to support Arnav, that's your choice and we completely respect that... You don't need to stop yourself from expressing, this is mature group and we all respect each other, my love for you girl!

Then you again quote my post ,Anyone who wants to read the post can do so ,it's in thread 1. I am only quoting a snippet ralevent to this discussion. This is how you started pushing and forcing your thoughts:

Are we reading the same story? The story is about Arnav cheating during marriage which he did. Had he quit by giving explanation that not having baby is his final decision, no one including me would be blaming Arnav. Arnav went for an affair with other woman while his wife is waiting for him at home and sleeping with other woman instead of simple talk and sorting with his wife across the room. Even if he wanted divorce or separation, he should have informed Khushi and done it before involving with Lavanya... He is wrong here, no doubt.

Again in the same post you went personal:

He could have cancelled the party saying his father is sick but he continued the charade. He can get permanent peace with Lavanya but not while marrying to Khushi, are you promoting infidelity by saying if one has arguments or disagreements with their spouse, they can avoid their spouse but have affair and find peace outside marriage? You got to be kidding me! And what about the trauma Arnav is putting Khushi through by cheating, Are you ok with it? It takes woman more to take responsibilties of her husband's family and Khushi was 5 years younger than Arnav here! They both took responsibilties, not just Arnav. He was assuming things about her without asking her if it's truth and that's where he went wrong.

But if someone has fear of somthing always, it's a sign of autism (at least that's what I experienced with community volunteering, I am an engineer and not doctor so I can be wrong here) and Arnav in this story is a normal guy, neither autistic nor he has any special needs. In fact Arnav was super excited and happy when his sister delivered a baby and he loves Leher too (He was splaying with Leher in car while Akash and Payal were sleeping when they went to Khushi's house). You are confused with two completely different things, Arnav has no fear of babies.

Again here I asked questions and immediately backed with my answers too. This was personal about the character and NOT you. Your point of view versus mine. Others have written in the same way to me every time. I asked you / writer specifically if Arnav was established with mental health issues or just trauma. But I realized you might not have liked my point of view and never interacted with you nor plan to in future. I have no time to go back read link 1 but we have had multiple interactions back then the feeling is mutual.

I still tried to be calm:

Sorry, I really don’t want to fight!!!

I never supported infidelity !!! I strongly believe that they never had an affair, until Arpita proves me wrong.

Also as you mentioned earlier this is mature forum and we all are free to have our own opinion . Can we please stop victimising each other !!! I am again sorry if I hurt you in anyway ,or if I triggered it !!!!

Let’s keep our beliefs to ourselves!!! I don’t want to discuss or defend my points again . Let’s enjoy the story our own way. Just one point though I don’t think he was scared of babies or the delivery process. He really didn’t want kids and that he had to give in freaked him out and that created the stress which was the last thread.

These are all there in thread 1:

So please any silent readers Swati keeps mentioning please read them .

Things were ok for sometime we even had few cordial chats. But then again you quoted my post and used similar demeaning language , this time I had no energy to fight so I reported the post and it got deleted. I do have a little snippet of it as proof.

All this I kept quite but you went ahead and bullied the writer about supporting Arnav ,even when you quoted to me writer expained khushi's stand to you on a separate post(that was a generous amount of words defending khushi, who no one has ever challenged!!!!!!) . I couldn't take it and wrote something in her support. You retorted with name calling (Vultures ,Masseiah), I have been in this forum for long time and NEVER experienced this . Yes had debates before but never faced this sort of behaviour . It's like can't say anything on the forum without you coming to grab my neck!!!!!!I am

I am sorry to say you are spinning a new theory, not sure how you get to decide I bullied the writer for her supporting Arnav is a joke. This means you never understood the whole situation and conversation we had there. Just because I had certain point of view about character and came with poofs from the story, my reasons to point it out. Go back and read my both notes together with Arpita's, the writer has appreciated my effort that now you are calling as bullying and contradicting. There is also explanation on what the actual misunderstanding was and clarification for it.

This is now you forcing your point of view when the writer has accepted my version and what I meant and discouraging me to write directly to the writer. When the writer and I have discussed directly and clarified our stance in open comments and privately too, you decide otherwise and attack me saying I bullied the writer???? This is unacceptable.

You have been doing this to many ppl so in your own language you don't get to cry foul !!!!! You picked Shyami's one post and made a scene out of it, where as you started it ,did it to many!!!

Even there is no apology ever!!!

I am not crying foul and never will. I have responded to Shyami separately.

But you are now spinning it saying I bullied the writer, this is new high and a big fat lie. This is between me and Arpita and so back off without twisting the truth. Please read and re-read the direct back and forth between me and Arpita.

Saying all that, in favor of the story can we move on . Let's all enjoy the story and send love to Arpita for writing this so beautifully.

None of my responses were ever intended to any person or you as a person, I have never demeaned anyone. I do not even know half the names. I have always backed my statements or replies with something from story, snippet or the writer's feedback etc. I just wanted to point that it was never established in story that Arnav has mental health issues but just one specific trauma.

But I realized you and I both disagreed on our point of views. I have no time to go back read link 1 but we have had multiple interactions back then the feeling is mutual. I have no intention to read or reply to your opinions after you spinning new lie that I bullied the writer, this is so unfortunate

-Swati

Hi Arpita, i am hoping that we will get new chapter this weekend. Can we hope?