Originally posted by: Quixotic-Frenzy
Hayley "the saint" is an exaggeration , she is anything but that .. π .. she is hot & doesnt take bullshit from Klaus but even that isnt enough to justify her sleeping with Elijah while engaged to Jackson.. she is selfish & an extremely selfish mother ...tell you what, given different circumstances i would have hated Haley but as it turns out - if Haley is a selfish mother , Klaus is just downright evil & super selfish father .. so its good that they are clashing , if by any chance they were on the same team , they would easily become the most hated selfish mother & selfish father for me . i mean every parent is selfish when it comes to their children but these have a total , complete & utter disregard for anyone else's life when it comes to Hope .. these two hybrid parents would paint the town red with blood at the drop of a hat when it comes to Hope .. i really really hope that Hope doesnt grow up to be a spoiled selfish brat .. π€’ π. well you are true , they would literally kill everyone even to get hope favourite toy π, but i have seen more selfish lovers in tvd and selfish parents seems much better than selfish lovers. atleast in this case it their daughter, imagine killing almost half of the town just to bring back you lover from dead , well that what tvd charater do most often. so this pales in comparision.
But as it happens , Haley is hot & not on the same team as Klaus , so currently she is likeable in my book .. πMoreover , do you remember when we discussed season 2 finale how pissed I was with the end scene ?.. "the King" reading a bedtime story to his little princess while the mother is out there cursed & trapped in her wolf form - courtesy "the king" ! π€¬ π€¬ ..^^ They had to drag it till season 3 episode 2 !.. .. long long time ! .. .. but now - FINALLY , i mean FINALLY - a closure ! .. i so wanted Haley to have her say in the gross injustice even if she gets killed in the process .. and i am happy to say that the makers finally gave me what i wanted .. not only did she physically abuse Klaus but she also got Hope for herself with HER family & her family's honour/respect still remains intact even if Klaus tried to shove his racist/supremacist/aristocratic views down her throat ! .. i mean his audacity to insult her husband right in front of her & her husband as if he was entitled to do so ! .. π€¬ π€¬ .. so glad his sorry ass got WHIPPED !! .. π π .. and the happy family scene , like i said before - a cherry on top of the cake ! ..π³ .. Klaus can go sulk alone with all his hybrid might to attend to his shattered ego .. π³ π. i get it hayley is a dutiful wife but come on klaus always looks down everyone, not just jackson. insulting everyone is what he do most of the time. πAbout Haley snapping Freya's neck - wasn't Freya standing in front of a chained Jackson at the time ?.. π€ .. anyways , Haley is a selfish impatient mother with little or no regard for others or other's life , she will stay in my good books as long as she keeps showing Klaus his true worth , will cross her out if that changes .. π.. i am siding with her now because she is the real victim here and the new living arrangements serves as a justice .. π i dont know if we will ever be on the same page when it comes it hayley, atleast it fun to have two different povπ. @ bold - thank you for stating the obvious though and i do agree with this one point π********************************Davina's problem is, she gives away her heart way too soon .. remember that violin playing human guy ?.. i suppose he was her first potential boyfriend ? ( hmm , but they were childhood friends i think π€).. the girl is just unlucky in love so far .. but what i admire about her is that she is fiercely loyal to her loved ones ( friends/boyfriends) .. it also helps that she hates Klaus .. π³ π .. not sure how long my goodwill for her will sustain if she continues down the stupid road .. π€she is mini rebekkah falling in love too easily , atleast klaus trust freya with her choices so that freya is not added to his enemy list for killing her boyfriendπ. come on hating klaus doesnt make them likable, then you should love the new villians more , am i right?*******************************Klaus getting killed by his family member - enticing ! π π .. that will serve him well for being a psycho whiny selfish paranoid brat .. βοΈ .. but , its way too predictable π€ , lets see what the show has in store for us ..i mean , i dont think either of the 3 originals will get harmed ( beccah maybe since the makers seem to have a problem with her storyline with two different actresses portraying it or may be its just the impression i got due to Beccah's absence from episode 2 π ) but i do hope that Klaus atleast gets hurt badly by one of the family members π , i mean he is going to whine regardless , so might as well give him a valid reason to do so .. π
Originally posted by: Quixotic-Frenzy
^^ Yes , definitely selfish parents are a million times better than selfish lovers , it goes without saying that had i watched TVD , i would have ended up hating those characters passionately .. π. then we both would have team up with the antagonists π.
"Klaus always looks down on everyone" ? ..π .. is that an argument for or against the king ? .. π . yeah the king feels entitled to look down on everyone , doesnt matter if he is insulting a woman's husband and her entire family in front of the woman & her husband coz thats just what he does & he is entitled to do so .. π . its not an argument for or agaisnt the king, it just stating that how he is , a simple fact. it might make you angry about his rude behaviour with others but i just go with it .it doesnt make me angry so i am not offended. if he so polite to others and only rude and snarky with jackson , i might have felt it as offensive. that he purposesly choose to look down on his daughter step father in from of his wife. but he looks down on everyone. so i dont find it different or purposesly done to insult hayley . it a twisted logic i know but i just dont know how to explain it eitherπYes , Davina is definitely mini-Rebekkah when it comes to matters of love .. π³I thought Klaus scared off Freya's potential one night stand .. πit was because he wanted her to find hayley or else i dont think he would have minded it. come on klaus was an active matchmaker of rebeccah in tvd, he approved atleast two of rebeccah boyfriend . and he even liked one more than rebeccah to advice him to prepare his heart incase her sister breaks it πI dont know if you remember our previous seasons discussions but i have stated it many times how i end up rooting for the villains rather than the protagonists simply coz they are against Klaus .. π.. not sure about the new villains , what if they are worse than Klaus .. tell you what , if the villains are strictly after Klaus only and avoid harming anyone else in the process then its more likely that i ll end up rooting for the villains..π .. Micheal is an exception of course since he is the one who made Klaus what he is now .. so Klaus over Micheal any day .. π³ π. i am glad atleast you choose klaus over mikael. the rest i get your pov. let wait and see what are the new villians plans.About Freya - i am actually indifferent to her .. she seems nice n all but she didnt particularly intrigue me in any way - good or bad .. although i did think she is going to be the new powerful villain after her entry in season 2 , even after the previous season finale i was convinced that she is not exactly in favour of the originals , but all that seems changed now .. π€ thats mikaelsons for you, one minute they will e willing to kill each other , the next minutes they would die for each other π.My god ! .. out of my lengthy rant about Haley , you caught up on the bolded part .. π .. yeah she is hot but like i said before , the major reason for me to support her now is that she is the real victim here and justice was delayed way too much - dragged from season 2 finale to season 3 episode 2.. ..it was stuck in my throat like a fish bone π ... but when delivered , such a sweet sweet justice it was .. πcome on i didnt say you like her because she is hot, i just said there is no need to write she is hot when you were defending her, you could have just said since she is anti klaus i like her. because thats one of your reasons just like how you like her because u think of her as a victim. i dont know if i conveyed my point. because i honeslty dont know how to explain it. lastly even though i dont agree with your pov about hayley i do get your pov. just that i dont see her the same way you doπ
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