18 days. It ended on the 18th night, w/ Ashwatthama, Kripa & Kritavarma massacring the remnants of the Pandava army, including Dhrishtadyumna, Shikhandi & Draupadi's 5 sons. The Pandavas, Krishna & Satyaki were only saved b'cos they happened to spend that night outside that camp.
Originally posted by: -RamSitaKiDasi-
i have another question folks !!😳
would ram ji's luv kush and shri krishna's children, like pradyuman, sambha, and bhanu among many others, be considered Gods, since their fathers were Gods, or would they be considered demi gods since Ram ji and Krishna ji came in the form of humans? or were they just simple humans ??
but it doesn't make sense for them to be simple humans because they were the sons of Vishnu bhagwaan !!😕We all are children of God and God lives in all of us.😃 Sorry j/k. Anyway, if we stick to human incarnations of Vishnu, Son is anyhow and anyway the ANSH of father Mina in any case. But since he is a part and would derive the characteristics of parents, virtuewise he can be more positive or negative IMO. A son taking only a particular virtue of a father therefore can become greater in that particular virtue of father possibly like a student can go seriously deep & far in a very casually taught theory by Guru.Now talking about the God's ansh in them, Saamb for example, is said to be part incarnation of Shankar/Rudra (Vibhooti of God as per Vibhooti yog) and so as Ashwatthama. So one might see to it that Hanumanji was born with Satvik form of Shiv, Saamb with Rajas and Ashwatthama with Tamas (even though he was Brahmin) with different degrees also possibly of Shiv's vibhooti or element. Lakshman-Bharat-Shatrughna-Balram were also Vishnu's (Vibhooti of God as per Vibhooti yog) part incarnations as per some sources or Sheshnag-Anant (Vibhooti of God as per Vibhooti yog)/Sudarshan's incarnations. Vanaras/bhalu & Pandavas were sons of devtas & therefore their parts. Duryodhan was Kaliug's incarnation. Shakuni was Dwapar's incarnation. And we all know about Jay-Vijay. So all people in the story of Ram/Krishna were either Demi-Gods or were bound with Vishnu through tie of love & eternal devotion. So I don't feel any special importance is needed to be given to relationship of father-son in Vishnu's incarnation (I mean relatively not absolutely) in comparison with Ram/Krishna's parents, brothers, teachers & friends. Even negative characters like Kans & Shishupal were Krishna's relatives and Shishupal was originally gatekeeper of Vaikunth. Kaariveerya Arjun also like Bharat is said by some source to be Sudarshan chakra's incarnation.Also all Vishnu's incarnations only had divine bodies with KALAA or aspects 10 or more than 10. Ram had either 12 or 14 kalaas. Krishna had all 16 kalaas. Other incarnations of Vishnu who were anshaavataars or aaveshaavataars had 10 kalaas. Bodies with such powers (possibly inborn tatvasiddhi - control over all 5 elements and powers arising from them e.g. growing, shrinking, disappearing, flying, fire not burning, becoming light or heavy) & divinity couldn't be taken by or were not bearable by any other one. Prajapatis or Manus or Vasus or Indras whoever may be. Kalaas of all other different creatures on earth or heaven or hell or any lok or planet (measurement of ANSH of God in all of us - Measurement of self consciousness of soul - level of chetana shakti - swayam ke swaroop ka gyan aur maya ka prabhaav) - plantation/vegetation, birds & animals, primitive humans, cultured social humans, intellectually genius/extremely talented/powerful/influencing/skillful humans, divine sages & great noble messengers of God and devataas/demigods - range from 1 to 9. Source of this information is SK's Sandipani lessons to Krishna.
Originally posted by: -RamSitaKiDasi-
thanx for the information bhaiyya !!
did duryodhan die before or after the massacre? and there were no battles after that?
also what happened to indraprastha when dharmraj became king? mahabharat mentions that he ruled hastinapur, so does that mean he abandoned indraprastha or did he merge it back into hastinapur? or did the other pandavs rule indraprashta?
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I have a question about the mythological interpretation of eclipses.
We know that after the Samudra manthan, when Vishnu beheaded Rahu/Ketu, Rahu, the head, would always try and devour the sun, and since his neck was open, the sun would come out again, and this was what was used to explain solar eclipses.So my question - are Rahu or Ketu @ all involved in lunar eclipses, or is there some other mythological explanation as to why they happen? This question hit me from something on pg 12 of the DkDM Doubts & discussions about Shiva linked in the previous post, but since this ain't a Shiva question, I posted it here.
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