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Posted: 1 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

Yes, the show that told the story of Imlie^2 is over. The new show about Imlie^3 is now two episodes along, telling an entirely different and unconnected story.


Each generation of Imlie is a remake of a different Bengali story copied from Star Jalsha.


Imlie^3 knows that she is the daughter of Imlie^2 and Atharva, but none of the other established characters have appeared since the leap. Kairi's funeral pyre was shown on the September 12 episode. There is now a male descendant: Imlie^1 -> Imlie^2 -> Kairi -> Ashu.


When it's rare for Indian fathers/sons to have the same name with suffixes like Sr., Jr., III, IV or nicknames like Chip, Trip, and Trey, it is truly extraordinary that Imlie^2 was named after her mother and passed on the legacy to her daughter. I've seen this on an American show, Gilmore Girls, where a teenage single mother named Lorelai named her daughter after herself. There was a Marathi movie, Sāṅgatye Aikā (1959), in which a woman named Haṃsā dies giving birth to a daughter, and so the baby is named Haṃsā. Marathi people have a custom that you never name a baby (or charity, business, house etc.) after a living person.

instead of continuing this confusing naming saga, makers should have used S1, S2, S3 with rebooted story - I meant, a new story with new settings and set of characters/actors each season!

They can name imli all seasons FL.

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Posted: 1 years ago
#22

Alka clearly said she was married to Agastya’s father first, but he left her & her children for Agastya’s mom. So Agastya’s mom is the second wife. I find the sibling rivalry btw Agastya & Sonali much more interesting than anything else as of now. Their equation seems to have some spark.

I don’t even understand from which era they have transported Agastya from. His hate for poor ppl is so misplaced & doesn’t seem to have any logical reasons. His brother’s death due to a poor girl isn’t valid enough for his mindless hate for poor ppl. Right now his attitude reeks narcissism, he is rich & his privileges is pushing him to think he has the right to judge & insult anyone for no rhythm & reason.

The way he spoke to imlie at the bar was absolutely unwarranted. No educated guy with a wee bit of wisdom will brutally insult a stranger that too publicly without reason. The way he keeps humiliating the poor is quite triggering. He is making it look like being poor is a sin. How the hell this guy doesn’t realize that not everyone is born rich or affluent.

The way he frivolously thinks being rich is classy & being poor automatically makes them classless or uncouth shows his shallow mindset

All Gul’s Male leads are Narcissist to an extent but Agastya takes the trophy. He deliberately denied imlie a chance to compete coz she was poor & didn’t think twice to offer her a chance when she pretended to be rich. He is out & out a toxic character with no redeeming qualities as of now.

Imlie as usual is a typical itv female leads, Ms.goody shoes who will do anything to keep her loved ones safe & happy and also an emotional fool who despite knowing Agastya’s attitude decided to join his sweet shop. A disastrous move, let’s see where it takes her.

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Posted: 1 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: Criticiser

Season 3 is as bad as S2 if not worse! The show is supposed to be in the future yet it looks as if it has gone 60 years back in the past. Very disappointed with Gul once again! Did not expect this season to be another joke like the previous one!

At least S2 had connection with S1 however this season seems like a completely different world with no connection from previous seasons (like Yrkkh 3)

Cannot connect with any of the old fashioned characters unbelievable that this is the same show with great characters like modern Rathores now 40 years later we have these ancient cartoons!

Only good thing about this season is the lead actors that’s about it!
Not interested in watching this show further for me Imlie ended the day Arylie got mercilessly killed.

Only hope is that this crap ends soon and spares us from this daily cringe!



@Bold lol 😂 I had the same feeling. Those feudal families of pre independent era. Chaudhary family attitude also matches with that period only. Did they take 40 yrs leap backward?

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Posted: 1 years ago
#24

The prejudice gets worse, turning into superstition (September 19 episode). Annapurna says that "that poor girl gobbled up" her grandson.


Indian society needs to outgrow the idea that people with bad luck "gobble up" those who befriend them. It's not right for a TV show seen by millions of Indians to normalize misfortune-shaming like this.


How is Agastya's and Annapurna's attitude different from touching-that-low-caste-will-defile-me bigotry?

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Posted: 1 years ago
#25

Agastya is described as illegitimate by Sonali and Alaka, and he doesn't deny it. Thus, his Dad didn't marry his Ammā, who died when Agastya was born. As far as we know, Dad transgressed his marriage to Alaka but never divorced her.


Agastya's excuse for his father's infidelity was that he didn't get love and respect from Alaka. However, when Sonali's husband (does he have a name?), who had heard Agastya's excuse, tried to claim that he looks for respectful bar girls because his wife doesn't respect him, Agastya warned him not to hurt his sister.


So, Agastya views infidelity as a privilege rather than a moral/immoral act. He approves when the perpetrator is his father because the victim is only his stepmother. He disapproves when the victim is his half-sister, because the perpetrator is only an in-law.


Will Agastya tell Sonali that her husband has a roving eye? The way Agastya smirked at Jījā's talk of modelling work, my impression is that Agastya doesn't think the wife needs to know.

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Posted: 1 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

The prejudice gets worse, turning into superstition (September 19 episode). Annapurna says that "that poor girl gobbled up" her grandson.

Indian society needs to outgrow the idea that people with bad luck "gobble up" those who befriend them. It's not right for a TV show seen by millions of Indians to normalize misfortune-shaming like this.


How is Agastya's and Annapurna's attitude different from touching-that-low-caste-will-defile-me bigotry?



Well now we know why Agastya is such a narcissist. It runs in the family. Except chacha & chachi, everybody seem to be basking in some kind of a superiority complex for no reasons whatsoever. Other than being rich & running a family business they don’t have any social standing to feel so superior. They all look superficial & vain.

@bold: I agree, they all seem to be carrying some century old racist casteist & classist attitude.


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Posted: 1 years ago
#27

Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

Agastya is described as illegitimate by Sonali and Alaka, and he doesn't deny it. Thus, his Dad didn't marry his Ammā, who died when Agastya was born. As far as we know, Dad transgressed his marriage to Alaka but never divorced her.


Agastya's excuse for his father's infidelity was that he didn't get love and respect from Alaka. However, when Sonali's husband (does he have a name?), who had heard Agastya's excuse, tried to claim that he looks for respectful bar girls because his wife doesn't respect him, Agastya warned him not to hurt his sister.


So, Agastya views infidelity as a privilege rather than a moral/immoral act. He approves when the perpetrator is his father because the victim is only his stepmother. He disapproves when the victim is his half-sister, because the perpetrator is only an in-law.


Will Agastya tell Sonali that her husband has a roving eye? The way Agastya smirked at Jījā's talk of modelling work, my impression is that Agastya doesn't think the wife needs to know.


Agastya’s hypocrisy is evident from the fact that a guy who put himself on a pedestal and was moral policing the bar girls, brutally insulted imlie calling her a ‘giri huwi aurat’ questioning her morals & ethics, will offer her money for a contract marriage to stake claim on his family business.

Now where are his morals & ethics. He has no qualm in getting into a contract marriage with a bar girl for family business and he still feels classy about it coz he is rich but the girls singing & dancing in a bar for their living makes them cheap & ‘Giri huwi’ coz they are poor. Agastya is nothing but a dumb egomaniac who thinks he is classy but in real he is uncouth self centered & toxic. Well he justified his father cheating Alka but warns his BIL coz of the same logic that his BIL is a ghar jamai so not so rich.

It’s simple, for him, being rich automatically qualifies them to judge, insult, ruin others opportunities and even set a price for their life but a poor person’s mere existence which doesn’t suit his standard becomes a crime or a sin.

Jija doesn’t seem any noble either. Let’s see how his character goes!

@Bold: it’s unpleasant to call Agastya or any child illegitimate coz it’s not his fault to be born out of wedlock. His parents were irresponsible so it’s unfair to blame him. Alka & Sonali are being downright mean here but they have their own reasons, one lost her husband another is on the verge of loosing the property. So reactions are bound to come.

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Posted: 1 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: ShivPal2021

@Bold: it’s unpleasant to call Agastya or any child illegitimate coz it’s not his fault to be born out of wedlock. His parents were irresponsible so it’s unfair to blame him.

I totally agree, and I try to avoid using this and other victim-shaming or misogynistic words. I consciously translated the word that Alaka and Sonali used. If anyone's feelings were hurt, I am sorry for that.

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Posted: 1 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

I totally agree, and I try to avoid using this and other victim-shaming or misogynistic words. I consciously translated the word that Alaka and Sonali used. If anyone's feelings were hurt, I am sorry for that.

No, you don’t have to be. I didn’t mean anything against you. I was only referring to the show how Alka & Sonali are bing unfair to him. Well when we question Agastya then we need to point out at others too. I am just seeing from the characters perspective. Nothing personal. My bad I wasn’t very clear with my views.

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Posted: 1 years ago
#30

The suicide note in which Gattu saw Bhaiyā's face was different from the suicide note that Gattu held while cremating Bhaiyā. Same words on different lines ... different misspellings!


We should infer that either Bhaiyā wrote the note more than once (i.e. he could still be alive after dying once or twice) or someone (Gattu himself?) rewrote the note, changing his name from गट्टू to misspelled गट्टु and correcting the spelling of किसि गरिब to किसी गरीब!


The flashback of Bhaiyā and Kairi bleeding and unconscious together in the car couldn't have been Imlie^3's memory, since she was informed of the accident by Pallo Māmī. It also couldn't have been Gattu's memory, because if he knew that Bhaiyā was with Kairi when the car flipped, he wouldn't believe that she's still alive and Bhaiyā "couldn't live without her" according to the suicide note.


The flashback had Bhaiyā on the right side of the car (Kairi's belly would make it difficult to drive even if she knew how), but then it flipped so that Bhaiyā appeared to be the passenger.


And that is continuity for the September 20 episode!

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