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Posted: 2 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Firstly, congraaaaaaats!

Secondly, yes, Aryan being the hypermasculine archetype that is deconstructed with his feminism (cue my thesis from few days back). And, yes, at men dominating the direction scene.

But I think we are talking two very different things here. Or, rather approaching the same thing from two different ends. I was more specifically talking about how the discourse of female attractiveness is located within the female body and its consumption by the assumed male hero/audience. The camera is his gaze.

I am thinking more of scopophilia and Sartre :

"The recognition of the fact that I am indeed that object which the Other is looking at and judging. I can be ashamed only as my freedom escapes me in order to become a given object (Sartre 1992, 350)"

So, while, yes, the female gaze is also constructed through the same male gaze of the camera, but it's rare when the supposed attractiveness of the hero is located in the male body as well instead of being shrouded under more traditionally sociopsychic roles assigned to them (protector, provider, guide etc etc etc.)

Bah! We know Aru is great because he is the absolute antithesis of Imlie's abuser, but narratively just seeing Imlie consuming Aryan's body through her gaze is honestly amazing. I mean, her attraction has never clearly been enumerated in physical terms. Even if she sees the dexterity of his hands in kneading dough and associates it with ungliyon me jaadu hai elsewhere, that is still a more concrete expression of her attraction than the ambiguous dost references.

Heroines don't need a personality for the man to get attracted to them lol. The camera tells exactly how they are consuming the heroine's beauty.

See RHTDM, Khushi-Arnav's first interaction.

Do I make sense? Ahhhhhh

yes!!! Absolutely! I think it’s also really fascinating bc so much of their choices are on purpose but don’t necessarily land how they want and then sometimes the best parts are accidental? Aru being able to cook and something that reminds her of mom is also related to the provider part/emotional nourishment which is super important. It’s also related to moral agency for both people to have good relationships with one another (bringing in my own anthropology background here). Now that she’s finally at a point in her life to actually acknowledge aryans beauty, it’s really interesting to see what will happen next. Because she called him pretty back in pagdandiya! So she’s aware of him as an attractive person but it’s not until the scenes you listed and the food thing that she subconsciously labels him as attractive to her. In other shows we might have the FL teased by a sister or cousin in law and she’ll blush but we have none of that here, so we only see how she sees him when there’s super key moments in their relationship. Her shock when he came out in the raj outfit, when he didn’t let her leave when they returned from pagdandiya for example. I don’t know anything about the adilie equation but I wonder if they ever showed her doing the same with him? (And thank you!!!!)
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Posted: 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#63

Woo

This thread on fire 🤪

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Posted: 2 years ago
#64

Those hands

And her gaze today 💥

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Also the depth here is chefs kiss 💋

Baki there needs to be some attraction wali monologues from imlie look at him girl your husband is a fine piece of m***

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Deltablues & Chotorani, thank you for this thread / deep discussion. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed your words. I am tempted to add an essay of my own here but am severely short on time this week so I will share instead a short fic I wrote recently where I attempted to narrate Imlie’s gaze…that includes how she sees them, sees him, and sees herself as well. (While this one isn’t exclusively written it from Imlie’s POV…your thread has totally inspired me to narrate the next story brewing in my head from Imlie’s POV alone.)


https://twitter.com/thedotntheline/status/1518238310719709185?s=21&t=LtJDS1XrIQxe3dZDrkgTXQ

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dot_n_Line

Deltablues & Chotorani, thank you for this thread / deep discussion. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed your words. I am tempted to add an essay of my own here but am severely short on time this week so I will share instead a short fic I wrote recently where I attempted to narrate Imlie’s gaze…that includes how she sees them, sees him, and sees herself as well. (While this one isn’t exclusively written it from Imlie’s POV…your thread has totally inspired me to narrate the next story brewing in my head from Imlie’s POV alone.)


https://twitter.com/thedotntheline/status/1518238310719709185?s=21&t=LtJDS1XrIQxe3dZDrkgTXQ

I LOVED THIS FIC it’s why I was like put this all on if 🤣 or maybe a Google docs link?? Thank you!
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Posted: 2 years ago
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Yah I was talking about it from the perspective of story telling and what the audience is being shown

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Posted: 2 years ago
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She saw the videographic evidences of Malini abusing Aditya, so she definitely knows how this works.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Deltablues

She saw the videographic evidences of Malini abusing Aditya, so she definitely knows how this works.


also that, welp

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