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Posted: 3 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: AreYaar


Imlie likely didn't react much to his words because she was guilt-tripping a lot over the vrat/sindoor situation and feeling like she was the cause of putting him in this situation this time......in the past when he's thrown wild accusations at her, she was genuinely not doing anything deliberately.....this time she kinda did, even though this was an unexpected consequence.


And basically, she does live with the guilt that she is coming in b/w Adi-Malini's happiness so when he says stuff like that to her, she doesn't always have a response.....which is why she instead started explaining why she kept the vrat for zimmedaari.


I actually could feel Aditya's pain in that scene. He is totally stuck in a place where he sees no way out. At this point, if he has to choose between Imlie and Malini, he'll still choose Malini. But, slowly he'll come to a point where he won't be able to keep himself away from Imlie. 😳


Also, thank you so much for your analysis!! I enjoy them as much as I enjoy the show! 😃

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Exactly, Imlie does not cower in front of him. She, in whatever situation they are, has always made it a point to put her view across, explain her state of mind, her situation. She never lets him walk all over her unlike his family, who I feel walk on eggshells around him. I think, her this quality is what pulls him towards her because in a way, he feels they are on equal footing. She can give as well as take. Hence, ,all his aggressiveness that he keeps suppressed from everybody comes out in front of her. This was also Imlie inner dialogue today that with me, he can be anything, I am used to it but with Malini he should not. That, there itself, is so telling.


Also, I got a feeling that for Aditya, his thought process was like, I will get her home and she will remain silently in some corner giving him no trouble. He will take her responsibility, in the sense, provide for her and that's about it. I guess, he forgot that this is Imlie, her presence is larger than life and try as he might she is not going to stay silent and will only do what she thinks is right. I think, his frustration has increased tenfold too because he is realizing that its not as simple as he thought it would be nor its easy to forget the past that has had such big significant impact on his life. As you said, he is struggling and how. In addition, his two wives are not giving him any "sukoon". 😆


Logon ka sukoon ek biwi se barbaad ho jaate hain, iska optimism dekho, do biwiyon hote hua bhi sukoon ki umeed hain, in spite of the fact that he has Mrs C on one side and Imlie on the other.🤣

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Posted: 3 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: nim_var


Nice WU. It reminded Adi of the glass of milk that Imli got with her during their 'suhaag raat' at PD and at his glare, Imlie understood the implications and drank it herself, without giving another chance to berate her. One look can speak volumes for this 'nakli' couple in a rishta. LOL


You are right, I did not connect that but now that you pointed out, it makes sense. It such a telling, pointed look and how it indicated the understanding that this "nakli" couple has. 😆

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Posted: 3 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: mayuri099


I actually could feel Aditya's pain in that scene. He is totally stuck in a place where he sees no way out. At this point, if he has to choose between Imlie and Malini, he'll still choose Malini. But, slowly he'll come to a point where he won't be able to keep himself away from Imlie. 😳


Also, thank you so much for your analysis!! I enjoy them as much as I enjoy the show! 😃


You're quite welcome! :) Thank you for your analysis as well....I enjoy reading it :)

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Posted: 3 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: pamk06


Exactly, Imlie does not cower in front of him. She, in whatever situation they are, has always made it a point to put her view across, explain her state of mind, her situation. She never lets him walk all over her unlike his family, who I feel walk on eggshells around him. I think, her this quality is what pulls him towards her because in a way, he feels they are on equal footing. She can give as well as take. Hence, ,all his aggressiveness that he keeps suppressed from everybody comes out in front of her. This was also Imlie inner dialogue today that with me, he can be anything, I am used to it but with Malini he should not. That, there itself, is so telling.


Also, I got a feeling that for Aditya, his thought process was like, I will get her home and she will remain silently in some corner giving him no trouble. He will take her responsibility, in the sense, provide for her and that's about it. I guess, he forgot that this is Imlie, her presence is larger than life and try as he might she is not going to stay silent and will only do what she thinks is right. I think, his frustration has increased tenfold too because he is realizing that its not as simple as he thought it would be nor its easy to forget the past that has had such big significant impact on his life. As you said, he is struggling and how. In addition, his two wives are not giving him any "sukoon". 😆


Logon ka sukoon ek biwi se barbaad ho jaate hain, iska optimism dekho, do biwiyon hote hua bhi sukoon ki umeed hain, in spite of the fact that he has Mrs C on one side and Imlie on the other.🤣


@bold: LMAO🤣.....wohi toh. How delusional does Babusahib have to be to think he can find SUKOON with TWO wives hanging around him?😆.....logon se ek nahin sambhalti, yeh do do laddoo lekar ghoom rahe hain haath mein😆


And word to your point about how Imlie in general stands up to him (minus all the scenes where they show her cowering from his daant which I anyways find irritating :P)....even in this situation which keeps getting convoluted, even when she grapples with her own guilt, she finds a way to put forth her viewpoint to him. She stands up to him in a way very few can and that has always been part of the subconscious draw.


She literally is at the receiving end of the worst sides of Adi's personality right now and she still isn't really cowed. It's a notable contrast to the way others in the family react whenever Adi loses his temper, especially Malini who gets so upset and goes into a round of pouting to demand his contrition or attention.


This is part of why that line from Imlie was notable when she said that she is used to Adi talking to her irritably but she doesn't want him talking to Malini like that. In some ways, Imlie has internalized and developed her own mechanism of dealing with Adi because she is privy to some of his deepest vulnerabilities right now.....but she is also cognizant of the fact that Malini wouldn't be able to handle that side of Adi and so she tries to diffuse that.


Part of this is also cuz Imlie presumes she is the cause of the irritation unlike anyone else....it will take some time for both her and Adi to realize where that constant irritation really stems from.


Adi has to learn that "sukoon" isn't found by burying your head in the sand and running away from problems....you have to face them, deal with them and then be able to move past them to find sukoon. It is very shortsighted of him to think that he will bring Imlie home and she will keep to herself and that will be the end of it😆.....Imlie has always been a larger than life presence that you can't really control or tame. This is wishful thinking on Adi's part right now.....lol


I also feel that if Adi could move past his guilt trip and actually develop a friendship with Imlie, they could even have managed to find a comfortable coexistence to some extent.....but both him and Imlie insist on guilt-tripping so badly all the time, that they remain hung up in this vicious cycle of "nakli rishta" only😆

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Posted: 3 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: mayuri099


I actually could feel Aditya's pain in that scene. He is totally stuck in a place where he sees no way out. At this point, if he has to choose between Imlie and Malini, he'll still choose Malini. But, slowly he'll come to a point where he won't be able to keep himself away from Imlie. 😳


Also, thank you so much for your analysis!! I enjoy them as much as I enjoy the show! 😃

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Posted: 3 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: AreYaar


Oh no, I don't think sexism is going to play any part in this at all. Adi is not a chauvinist....he has temper issues and more than that, his triggers are related to truth and righteousness, not male ego so much.


What Malini's mom is doing plays on his basic pride as a man....it's not an ego issue. It's a basic pride thing that he wants his married life with his wife to be between them without constant interference from her mother who is constantly trying to play up a class difference.


As for PD....LOL oh come on, he doesn't enjoy the attention he gets from his PD in-laws one bit cuz he's drowning in guilt😆....the only connection he's enjoyed with the PD people pre-wedding has been when he has gotten respect and warmth from Satyakam, that's it.....there is nothing in this situation at all that he prefers PD because they all put him on a pedestal as a sheher-wala reporter and all....


Adi's equation with Imlie is totally organic....it has nothing to do with any external elements. Put aside the forced wedding and think of all the times when he's been intrigued by her or ended up smiling or laughing even when she makes faces at him. If it was really about male ego, he would behave like a typical ML trying to take "revenge" on her for challenging his male ego....but that's not Adi....his issue with either Malini or Imlie is not about male ego. With Malini, it's a lack of mutual understanding.....with Imlie, it's the fact that she understands him more than he can handle or is ready for😆.

Well I agree to disagree.. about the PD thing..I never said he enjoyed all the adulation on a surface level..he was a victim of the situation..but just look at his actions..he did all the rituals..even though unwillingly..I am not talking about the male ego thing here..just saying that he did not enjoy a bit in PD is totally wrong. He willingly took part in the kite flying festival which he never does with Malini. There are many more subtle instances...the way he held Imlies hand while taking the pheras...etc. So yes he was definitely enjoying it subconsciously.

I don't think Imlie ever challenges his male ego 😆 it's actually the opposite.

It's perfectly alright if he snaps M Infront of everyone because her mother sent a car. It's not her fault that she comes from a higher class and he is insecure about it..he should say sorry to her for behaving that way..but it will be the exact opposite as shown in the precap. Infact he is venting out at her out of his insecurities and she has to persuade him for no fault of hers.Why? Because he has some basic pride and some temper issues..and can treat women of his life like that. This is a perfect example of normalisation gendered behaviour . Our society behaves like this and TV shows reflect the same thing.

Adi has a bit of everything ..good and bad. I have seen these types of man in real life and that's why it is so much relatable. His complexes are very real and that's why I connect with the character. I don't need to put him in a higher padestal to like him.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Whimsy

Well I agree to disagree.. about the PD thing..I never said he enjoyed all the adulation on a surface level..he was a victim of the situation..but just look at his actions..he did all the rituals..even though unwillingly..I am not talking about the male ego thing here..just saying that he did not enjoy a bit in PD is totally wrong. He willingly took part in the kite flying festival which he never does with Malini. There are many more subtle instances...the way he held Imlies hand while taking the pheras...etc. So yes he was definitely enjoying it subconsciously.

I don't think Imlie ever challenges his male ego 😆 it's actually the opposite.

It's perfectly alright if he snaps M Infront of everyone because her mother sent a car. It's not her fault that she comes from a higher class and he is insecure about it..he should say sorry to her for behaving that way..but it will be the exact opposite as shown in the precap. Infact he is venting out at her out of his insecurities and she has to persuade him for no fault of hers.Why? Because he has some basic pride and some temper issues..and can treat women of his life like that. This is a perfect example of normalisation gendered behaviour . Our society behaves like this and TV shows reflect the same thing.

Adi has a bit of everything ..good and bad. I have seen these types of man in real life and that's why it is so much relatable. His complexes are very real and that's why I connect with the character. I don't need to put him in a higher padestal to like him.


I never said Adi is some perfect guy who needs to be put on a pedestal 🤔. I simply said that he doesn’t have the typical male ego issues to the extent of a standard male lead on TV. No one is “normalizing” anything here. Simply pointing out the obvious differences.

Pride is not a male or female issue. Women have their own form of pride. Just two days back, Malini made him grovel in front of her because her pride was hurt so she threw an attention seeking tantrum. Pride is just expressed in different forms.

Yeah let’s agree to disagree about the PD scenes. I definitely didn’t see Adi “enjoying” anything about those rituals cuz he was given importance by those people.


And lol if you really think Imlie doesn’t challenge him on anything, then yeah we clearly watch the show differently. I find it strange that people are presuming he likes Imlie cuz she does his seva and rolls over for him 😕. That is so the very opposite of what I’ve seen of their relationship so far. Imlie is a nurturer but she is not a pushover.

And Malini is a beautiful woman who is not lacking in anything vis a vis skills either. For the most part she is constantly just building her life around Adi and clinging to him. So if we were to go by the “logic” of who panders to his male ego more, then it would be Malini only.

That isn’t even the issue here. Issue is a lack of understanding between them. That’s it. Issue is not that they have a class difference. Issue is that they don’t communicate clearly about it. For 7 years, Malini has let her mother humiliate the man she is about to marry. It’s obviously something that will create problems.

And again, I’m not saying this gives Adi the right to be rude to either Imlie or Malini. But that is more about his temper and emotional frustrations right now rather than ego.

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