Cracks rising to the surface - Page 7

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I don't think that is what the story will come down to....Imlie isn't going to be a "fall back" option for Adi.....subconsciously he can already feel that destiny is pushing him towards Imlie all the time and he is fighting it. Ultimately all these things will converge to show that Imlie is the one for him.....he will realize her worth on the strength of her nature and realize that he was meant to be with her.

Right now ofcourse that is a long way away and Adi clearly struggles with his guilt over Malini too much so he's not going to see all this.....it's not about Imlie being a "better option"....it's going to be about Imlie being the right option. He will just take time to realize that.....and it will come after a lot of internal torturing since Adi is a permanent guilt tripping soul who will not easily accept that Malini was never the right choice for him.

Bold: I so badly want this to happen. That Adilie chemistry is organic and is not forced by any external pressure. Today's episode showed the misunderstandings between Adini.. I only feel it's not necessary to show misunderstanding between Adini to prove that Adilie chemistry is better. They don't need any outside element to push each other towards themselves..that's what I meant .

Originally posted by: Whimsy

Bold: I so badly want this to happen. That Adilie chemistry is organic and is not forced by any external pressure. Today's episode showed the misunderstandings between Adini.. I only feel it's not necessary to show misunderstanding between Adini to prove that Adilie chemistry is better. They don't need any outside element to push each other towards themselves..that's what I meant .

Adini ka pata nahi but Kaash imlie inke changul se chuth jaati. Only her dadda can instil sense in her now because he's thr only character who has some sense in this show.

Originally posted by: Whimsy

Bold: I so badly want this to happen. That Adilie chemistry is organic and is not forced by any external pressure. Today's episode showed the misunderstandings between Adini.. I only feel it's not necessary to show misunderstanding between Adini to prove that Adilie chemistry is better. They don't need any outside element to push each other towards themselves..that's what I meant .

@bold: I don't think that's what they are showing at all.

Misunderstandings between Adini are happening because of already existing issues b/w them like Malini's mom interfering and trying to play up the class difference.....that is happening naturally on it's own and has nothing to do with Imlie's presence in Adi's life.

The makers are just showing that Adi-Malini are not meant to be....their breakup will not happen because Adi-Imlie are better for each other. Adi-Malini's breakup will happen because their relationship is not strong enough to survive these rifts and they lack that understanding with each other.

In fact, it's more like the opposite....makers are going out of their way to show that Malini is a wonderful person, so it's not the usual case of showing the second woman as "bad" to prove the first woman "better"......they are showing that destiny is playing out.....Adi-Imlie will end up together not because Malini is "bad", but because she and Adi are not meant to be.

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

Exactly!! Theek time pe turned the tide warna mera hosla toot jaata.. idc whether it is adi makini or adi imlie in terms of story moving caz both sides have intresting points and dynamics on the relationship.. ofcourse adi imlie are the ultimate ship and will sail but the thing is the actual conflict exists on both ends which normally doesn't happen and it becomes a cat fight between2 women fighting over 1 guy.. here that doesn't exist.. it is not some ego battle between imlie malini ke who can have adi

@bold: +1....wohi I'm also liking....despite how cliched the story appears on paper ki it's once again a case of one man and two women in his life, this story hasn't devolved into the typical catfight of two women fighting over one guy....so I do appreciate the show for sparing us that so far😆.

Haan woh baat aur hai that they are going overboard showing Imlie-Malini ka behen jaap for each other too😆.....but that is still more tolerable than two women catfighting over a guy.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: Exactly.....Malini is not a bad person....but this is just her nature that she is so inside her own head that she hasn't ever really understood Adi or the issues in their relationship.

The cracks in their relationship have always existed because they aren't compatible as personalities....the dating period simply involves going out for dinners and coffees and talking about the same general subjects....it doesn't give you a full sense of personalities unless you actually try to engage with each other honestly.

Adi-Malini's relationship seems built on always avoiding conflict, never talking through anything that could create conflict.....that is why these cracks were hidden so far....but now they are rising to the surface.

I find it interesting that Adi thinks this volatile side of his personality has only risen due to being stuck in this forced situation with Imlie.....but Imlie can't create something out of thin air.....these things were always part of his personality but no one ever tapped into them before cuz he got used to repressing all these shades in his 7 years with Malini and never really sharing all sides of himself with his partner.....but they are all pouring out naturally with Imlie....and that is why he isn't meant to last with Malini despite the surface level "similarities".....cuz that isn't the real deal. He may be currently in conflict with Imlie most of the time but that conflict is helping churn and bring out his honest self to the fore rather than hiding it all the time.

You explained it beautifully !

Yes Adini is on a more or less superficial level all the time . His real self never came out with Malini. The thing is he was trying to charm or impress this lady from the very start. So it was always on the surface level. It never became as raw and intense as with Imlie. He never tried to woo her or impress her..and that's the crux. With Imlie he can be a bad person or a good person like a normal human being. But with Malini he always has the pressure of playing the role of a good dutiful husband. It wouldn't have been a pressure if the relation was not so superficial.

It's a long way to go till Adi realises all these and comes face to face with his inner self.

Well, for me, the highlight of the today's episode was their conversation, the slow one step layered progression in their relationship i.e. the unspoken little trust which I think started since the start of this vrat fest and the introduction to the shaky foundation of Aditya's "asli" relationship.

Imlie, by now, understands Aditya well enough, to know that if he finds out about the vrat, he would be very angry, hence she wanted to hide it from him. Aditya, too, knows Imlie well enough to immediately connect the dots between the conversation during the cake cutting and her eating the apple. Thus, in spite of Imlie attempts of deflecting the situation with stupid explanations, he made sure to point out that their one mistake would ruin everything and so please do not do anything. After wards, he did not even bother to get a confirmation but just trusted her to follow through. Hence, the sense of betrayal, especially after they had already defined their relationship in the hospital, was very significant for him. Their foundation is not very strong, its still shaky, especially because of the circumstances that has brought them together. Hence, it very easy and simple for Aditya to turn back and blame Imlie so that he can soothe his guilty conscience in regards to Malini. But again, subconsciously or may be, its the trust that has been building between them since PD, did not let him stew in his thoughts and he immediately went to confront her. I liked the fact, that Imlie understood his intention and hence, purposely misunderstood his question, answering off handedly that I want all this but right now I want to sleep. Ha, as if that is going to work but in the my opinion, the best part was that she did not even try to deny or provide an explanation to his accusation of trying to take Malini place. She just knew its not going to work with him and hence she just provided a comparison that he would relate to. She reminds him about the sense of responsibility he felt, which forced him to save her and bring her back even though he did not want it or wish it. In similar context, the vrat is also because of a sense responsibility that she feel toward him because she cannot lie to her God, cannot forget her dharam and thus just wishes to fulfill it, not the relationship but the responsibility. ( Her words though calmed him down but did not reduce the turmoil and he could not stop himself from conveying/sharing his state of emotions to her, the helplessness and the fear of losing his real relationship.

Little does he know, that his real relationship is also going to hamper his "sukoon" 😛. When Malini called the whole "car ride" incident as silly and her mother help as "nothing", I actually wanted to ask her, do you know him? She has been with him for 7 years, is aware about Aditya pride and ego, has been a witness of his relationship with her mother and still does not realize that her mother is the sorest point of their relationship. She really should do everything that she can to keep them apart for an happy marriage, that anything from her mother, which has the slightest potential of questioning his ability to provide Malini a comfortable life, is not going to sit well with him especially as he been listening to her mother's taunts on the same for last 7 years. Well, if not, then Malini really needs to prepare herself for an eye-opening party because if she does not start become a wall between them, her relationship will start falling apart and her mother would be the sole reason. 😲

Anyways, for me, what stood out the most was Aditya's behavior with both women in his life. On one side, where he was a bubbling volcano on the other, he was so cold. On one side, he immediately took the action to confront and get the clarity for his displeasure whereas on the other side, he is stewing in his emotions. On one side, he demanded to be looked at (how intense was that 😉) whereas on the other side he is looking at everything but Malini. On one side, he unburdened himself in few words, shared his emotions and thoughts and kind of made peace with the situation again but will he be able to do that on the other side. Listening to Malini thoughts and with lot of help from Imlie, I think he will be going on a guilt trip and all his thoughts/emotions/displeasure with this situation are going be suppressed thus fueling his insecurity and paving way for this crack to widen.

PS: I do not know how I missed it the first time but I really liked the look that Aditya gave Imlie after feeding the cake to Malini as if he wanted to feed her next but cannot 😃 and ahhh, the glare today for the class of milk. Silent but so very loud. 😊

Originally posted by: pamk06

Well, for me, the highlight of the today's episode was their conversation, the slow one step layered progression in their relationship i.e. the unspoken little trust which I think started since the start of this vrat fest and the introduction to the shaky foundation of Aditya's "asli" relationship.

Imlie, by now, understands Aditya well enough, to know that if he finds out about the vrat, he would be very angry, hence she wanted to hide it from him. Aditya, too, knows Imlie well enough to immediately connect the dots between the conversation during the cake cutting and her eating the apple. Thus, in spite of Imlie attempts of deflecting the situation with stupid explanations, he made sure to point out that their one mistake would ruin everything and so please do not do anything. After wards, he did not even bother to get a confirmation but just trusted her to follow through. Hence, the sense of betrayal, especially after they had already defined their relationship in the hospital, was very significant for him. Their foundation is not very strong, its still shaky, especially because of the circumstances that has brought them together. Hence, it very easy and simple for Aditya to turn back and blame Imlie so that he can soothe his guilty conscience in regards to Malini. But again, subconsciously or may be, its the trust that has been building between them since PD, did not let him stew in his thoughts and he immediately went to confront her. I liked the fact, that Imlie understood his intention and hence, purposely misunderstood his question, answering off handedly that I want all this but right now I want to sleep. Ha, as if that is going to work but in the my opinion, the best part was that she did not even try to deny or provide an explanation to his accusation of trying to take Malini place. She just knew its not going to work with him and hence she just provided a comparison that he would relate to. She reminds him about the sense of responsibility he felt, which forced him to save her and bring her back even though he did not want it or wish it. In similar context, the vrat is also because of a sense responsibility that she feel toward him because she cannot lie to her God, cannot forget her dharam and thus just wishes to fulfill it, not the relationship but the responsibility. ( Her words though calmed him down but did not reduce the turmoil and he could not stop himself from conveying/sharing his state of emotions to her, the helplessness and the fear of losing his real relationship.

I really like how you described both their thought processes in that scene....a foundation exists, shaky as it may be between them....and trust was starting to grow against all odds, even from Adi's side....so it was interesting to see them navigate that in this scene. It is interesting that Imlie looked past his words and understood the intent of what was actually driving him in that moment, so her focus was more on providing him an explanation based on his own parameters of responsibility. It was also interesting that he totally unloaded his agitated state on her in a raw manner and even though Imlie was guilt-tripping, she didn't really cower in front of him but found a way to speak her piece.

This is all I ask for from the makers....please just let her speak her piece in these scenes even if they are in conflict....it is important that she have a voice and isn't just shown cowering from his daant all the time. It's again remarkable that in her own way, this girl who is so young has a way of cutting through all his agitation and managing to communicate with him on an instinctual level.

Little does he know, that his real relationship is also going to hamper his "sukoon" 😛. When Malini called the whole "car ride" incident as silly and her mother help as "nothing", I actually wanted to ask her, do you know him? She has been with him for 7 years, is aware about Aditya pride and ego, has been a witness of his relationship with her mother and still does not realize that her mother is the sorest point of their relationship. She really should do everything that she can to keep them apart for an happy marriage, that anything from her mother, which has the slightest potential of questioning his ability to provide Malini a comfortable life, is not going to sit well with him especially as he been listening to her mother's taunts on the same for last 7 years. Well, if not, then Malini really needs to prepare herself for an eye-opening party because if she does not start become a wall between them, her relationship will start falling apart and her mother would be the sole reason. 😲

LOL that is indeed the question, isn't it....does Malini know him at all if she really can't see why her mom's interference will hit him like this? This is all a kind of privilege she's grown used to that she doesn't understand that her mom sending a car over isn't going to "help" anyone....

Anyways, for me, what stood out the most was Aditya's behavior with both women in his life. On one side, where he was a bubbling volcano on the other, he was so cold. On one side, he immediately took the action to confront and get the clarity for his displeasure whereas on the other side, he is stewing in his emotions. On one side, he demanded to be looked at (how intense was that 😉) whereas on the other side he is looking at everything but Malini. On one side, he unburdened himself in few words, shared his emotions and thoughts and kind of made peace with the situation again but will he be able to do that on the other side. Listening to Malini thoughts and with lot of help from Imlie, I think he will be going on a guilt trip and all his thoughts/emotions/displeasure with this situation are going be suppressed thus fueling his insecurity and paving way for this crack to widen.

Yes, the contrast was stark in this epi....I especially liked the point you made about how he instantly went seeking out Imlie to express his emotions - whether in anger or displeasure, to get the whole thing out of his system and process it....even in that frustration, his connection to Imlie was coming through strongly.....there was a sense of catharsis....even as he spoke of feeling helpless and trapped yet again, he did manage to unburden himself in front of her.

While with Malini, he once again chose to repress and stew in his emotions....and that is going to remain the long term problem even if this time also he manages to go back to his usual groveling in front of Malini to make up with her😆.

That bit when he demanded to be looked at.....that again made me think that he seeks a connection with Imlie in his own way that he can't articulate yet, so it's haphazard, but it's there.....that was literally a push and pull moment....he pulled her close, demanded she look at him and then let her go the very next moment when she did look at him.

PS: I do not know how I missed it the first time but I really liked the look that Aditya gave Imlie after feeding the cake to Malini as if he wanted to feed her next but cannot 😃 and ahhh, the glare today for the class of milk. Silent but so very loud. 😊

LOL yes, he did give her a look during the cake feeding bit....but it had looked more like irritation to me at that time....now, with today's scene in context, I'll view it with more intrigue....he's definitely caught up in frustration of some sort.....like he is literally chhatpataaoing.

The glare for the glass of milk today, along with the glare for blurting out PD incidents that only they both were privy to in front of the whole family😆.....he looked irritated with her for spilling out something that had otherwise just been between them for so long....lol

Ultimately the whole scene could be summed up in that one exchange when Imlie asked him why he brought her back to Delhi when he didn't want to.....that I think is the summary of where they are.....with that one action, he showed that he won't let her leave his life now no matter how much he keeps cribbing and grumbling......he can label it anything - a majboori etc....but fact remains, he brought her back to the city and to his home....so now she's going to stay there and do what feels right to her😆

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Originally posted by: pamk06

PS: I do not know how I missed it the first time but I really liked the look that Aditya gave Imlie after feeding the cake to Malini as if he wanted to feed her next but cannot 😃 and ahhh, the glare today for the class of milk. Silent but so very loud. 😊

Nice WU. It reminded Adi of the glass of milk that Imli got with her during their 'suhaag raat' at PD and at his glare, Imlie understood the implications and drank it herself, without giving another chance to berate her. One look can speak volumes for this 'nakli' couple in a rishta. LOL

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: I don't think that's what they are showing at all.

Misunderstandings between Adini are happening because of already existing issues b/w them like Malini's mom interfering and trying to play up the class difference.....that is happening naturally on it's own and has nothing to do with Imlie's presence in Adi's life.

The makers are just showing that Adi-Malini are not meant to be....their breakup will not happen because Adi-Imlie are better for each other. Adi-Malini's breakup will happen because their relationship is not strong enough to survive these rifts and they lack that understanding with each other.

In fact, it's more like the opposite....makers are going out of their way to show that Malini is a wonderful person, so it's not the usual case of showing the second woman as "bad" to prove the first woman "better"......they are showing that destiny is playing out.....Adi-Imlie will end up together not because Malini is "bad", but because she and Adi are not meant to be.

All your points aar 💯💯 ...even I said in earlier posts that Adilie has some really very natural chemistry which Adini doesn't have.

It's just that I personally don't like the 'male ego gets hurt' angle by focusing on class difference. Imlie belongs to lower strata of society..her mother is exact opposite of Anu..he gets all the love, respect, adulation at PD, which is exactly the opposite scenario of Chaturvedi House. He is always at a superior position with Imlie which he can't be with Malini. His male ego gets hurt with Malini in some way or the other..be it the Goa honeymoon plan or the recent car thing , which is never the case with Imlie. In fact here it gets satisfied on various levels 😆 . I am only talking about Adi's complex mind..and not about the equation he shares with the women.

I only wish this sexism doesn't play a catalyst for change of Adi's heart. I would love to be proved wrong.

Originally posted by: Whimsy

All your points aar 💯💯 ...even I said in earlier posts that Adilie has some really very natural chemistry which Adini doesn't have.

It's just that I personally don't like the 'male ego gets hurt' angle by focusing on class difference. Imlie belongs to lower strata of society..her mother is exact opposite of Anu..he gets all the love, respect, adulation at PD, which is exactly the opposite scenario of Chaturvedi House. He is always at a superior position with Imlie which he can't be with Malini. His male ego gets hurt with Malini in some way or the other..be it the Goa honeymoon plan or the recent car thing , which is never the case with Imlie. In fact here it gets satisfied on various levels 😆 . I am only talking about Adi's complex mind..and not about the equation he shares with the women.

I only wish this sexism doesn't play a catalyst for change of Adi's heart. I would love to be proved wrong.

Oh no, I don't think sexism is going to play any part in this at all. Adi is not a chauvinist....he has temper issues and more than that, his triggers are related to truth and righteousness, not male ego so much.

What Malini's mom is doing plays on his basic pride as a man....it's not an ego issue. It's a basic pride thing that he wants his married life with his wife to be between them without constant interference from her mother who is constantly trying to play up a class difference.

As for PD....LOL oh come on, he doesn't enjoy the attention he gets from his PD in-laws one bit cuz he's drowning in guilt😆....the only connection he's enjoyed with the PD people pre-wedding has been when he has gotten respect and warmth from Satyakam, that's it.....there is nothing in this situation at all that he prefers PD because they all put him on a pedestal as a sheher-wala reporter and all....

Adi's equation with Imlie is totally organic....it has nothing to do with any external elements. Put aside the forced wedding and think of all the times when he's been intrigued by her or ended up smiling or laughing even when she makes faces at him. If it was really about male ego, he would behave like a typical ML trying to take "revenge" on her for challenging his male ego....but that's not Adi....his issue with either Malini or Imlie is not about male ego. With Malini, it's a lack of mutual understanding.....with Imlie, it's the fact that she understands him more than he can handle or is ready for😆.