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Posted: 8 years ago
#21
He asks her why she is still stuck in the past! It clearly affects him too :)
Nice post :)

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: coolpixie


Yes, what Shravan did was overboard, but I guess in a vindictive way, it was justified! and maybe I say that because this is a drama and not real life. Again in real life, nobody would go to this extent, but for the sake of dramatics and that eye to eye resolution, I'm kind of onboard! LOL. I think I'm very blood thirsty today (or revenge thirsty, should I say?).

And Shravan was ignoring her at first, remember? He was acting completely indifferent to her, but then sumo got all mad at him and accused him of running away and blah blah blah 😆 and the guy's already bruised ego (when suman says, whatever happened was no big deal) got bruised even more and he created a whole elaborate scheme to do what she did to him years ago, albeit unintentionally whereas his is intentional. I honestly like that he is so sly and uses his charm on a sort of superficial level at times to get what he wants, that makes him more real and imperfect. I think perfection is bit overrated and not achievable in real world, so his imperfection is all fine with me and I like those gray shades. Though, more than anything this was to get his point across that he will NOT forgive her because she simply wrote him a sorry note, if you watch the precap he makes it clear in that quiet way that a simple sorry note will not earn her forgiveness as it won't earn him forgiveness from her either. Was this harsh? Absolutely! Cruel? Debatable, especially because this is was an eye for eye! And why disregard what happens to people in their teen years? Why disregard his pain?! Shravan seemed like a sensitive kid back then, and as a sensitive person myself, sensitive people take such embarrassments and hurt very seriously and to the heart, especially when done by people close to us.

I think to understand Shravan's action, disregarding the whole dramatic effect, you have to look deeper than the surface and put yourself in his shoes. and yes, nobody would do this in real life. But, then how would the drama even move forward? If they did not even out their playing field, there would be no base to their relationship, as Shravan would remain indifferent to her and ignore her. and Shravan seems like the kind of guy that doesn't like confrontations, so it's obvious to me why he didn't yell at Suman and why instead this scheme came about. Again, I'm not saying it's not wrong, but I also find it sort of justifiable in a way. Though, I can completely see why you would not, everybody takes in different situations differently.



I get it from a drama standpoint. They had to have a conflict.

"I honestly like that he is so sly and uses his charm on a sort of superficial level at times to get what he wants, that makes him more real and imperfect." - I have hardly known very few folks in reality, who are sly, and use a charm to get what they want, and they usually turn out to be very, very untrustworthy. I prefer grey shades too, but such people only think about themselves and will go to any extent to get what they want. They are passive-aggressive, vindictive, masterful manipulators.

Well in public that was a confrontation. In fact he seemed to be enjoying it. I get that they wanted high drama, but I think the confrontation should have been private.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: PC00



I get it from a drama standpoint. They had to have a conflict.

"I honestly like that he is so sly and uses his charm on a sort of superficial level at times to get what he wants, that makes him more real and imperfect." - I have hardly known very few folks in reality, who are sly, and use a charm to get what they want, and they usually turn out to be very, very untrustworthy. I prefer grey shades too, but such people only think about themselves and will go to any extent to get what they want. They are passive-aggressive, vindictive, masterful manipulators.

Well in public that was a confrontation. In fact he seemed to be enjoying it. I get that they wanted high drama, but I think the confrontation should have been private.


Lol. Yeah. I would find them untrustworthy in real life, too. But, from a character point of view, I like his character! That sort of anti-hero character, who is not perfect, nor is aiming for perfection with one dimensional elements; I'd much rather have multi dimensional grey characters because then there is much more to explore about them and sometimes even how they can improve or come out of their cocoon of cynicism. And seeing that teenage Shravan, it is obvious he was not like that before, only because of this whole fiasco with Suman that he is grown world wise and learned to fend for himself! But, as his conflict and bitterness with Suman eventually is resolved, I'm looking forward to the vulnerable and sensitive Shravan or whatever remnants of that personality that are there to come out. I think that is a process worth watching, how exactly these two get past such huge differences and hurt and move forward, whether separately or together remains to be seen. :)

Edit: Oh and btw, I agree with wishing it was private, but I think he was trying to recreate the past scene possibly of Sumo's friends making fun of him and Sumo not saying anything (I'm guessing that's what happened when his letter was discovered from all that he is said and done?), so since his embarrassment was public, he probably decided hers should be, too. Again, overboard and vindictive. Sumo is definitely going to ignore him now (and she should)! lol

Edited by coolpixie - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I disagree with you for one simple reason. Young Shravan seems to be hurt beyond pain because of the callous attitude of young Sumo. Sumo who was then vulnerable to peer pressure and acted indifferently to his hurt, hurt which was never spelt out then, ten years back. When he returned to India, he did not come back with revenge in his mind, but since he got rattled as you all say, by her bhagoda outburst, he took this route of humiliation.
Fine, but this bringing upon herself ...should have also been played out ten years back. Eye for an eye. Young Shravan finally did hisaab barabar with this dirt of human, with young (Suman) [I call her dirt, because that is how he treated her yesterday, like a vermin]. But, he came back and did this hisaab barabar thing with Sumo after ten years, when he is no more nerdy but far more important, he is gloating about the fact that he is rich, handsome and he can find girls from anywhere. Wonder, if Sumo would have been as rich as Shravan or if Shravan had remained the same nerdy will he have been able to exact his revenge from her? I believe not.
In yesterdays' episode, apart from the panning out the public humiliation of Sumo was the fact of Shravan as being very much concerned about his superficial appearances and probably always was.
We still dont know what happened exactly ten years back, but to extract that pound of flesh after ten years shows him a loser, if nothing else.
Anyways loved your take.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I do agree with you. Yes it's a tough one and its hard to watch a girl be put down. But as he was narrating the past and asking everyone if they knew that he and Suman had been friends, the answer was very clear. In her memories we could see that she knew he was right. She never publicly acknowledged him. He said she used him, made him do her homework and he was a nerd. But now what has changed is that he is a successful, rich and eligible bachelor. So of course now she wants to know him, just like so many girl from Dehli to London do.

It was a tough one, but I am afraid this had to happen for Suman to realize the gravity of the issue from Shravan's side. But what exactly went down 10 years ago, other than her generally callous behavior is the question. What was the story of the "response by letter" than Shravan was referring to? Now that will make everything more clear to us! But I tend to agree with what you said. Suman sort of got her comeuppance. But Shravan's method's were still wrong!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Bang on, you written very well, the pain she gave him it's not justify because she was young and immature. It's not make his pain any less because she was young . he was also young, She was insensitive not caring for his feelings she never thought how he feels when she says he was not cool dude, not good enough of her friend. The only person so much to him, he was nothing for her. Her cool reputation was more important than his friendship. I think it's hurt him more. Hope sumo now at least realize
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ilovemyself98

but der is diffrence when any1 insult at age of 16 & at age of 26.16 is age of immature teenager when any1 get influenced.tenager can do lot of mistake at school under peer pressure & in order to get attention.also fight at school is not serious as fight at grown up age.but at age of 26 taking revenge over school incident is really immature & low.it has been better if shravan wld have confronted somu privately but publicly insulting her at party too much that also with planning & plotting.ppl can forgive & forget humiliation at school age but as grown up it will be hard to forgive.


I totally agree with this. She was immature at that time but at least he is mature now. His method was wrong, he wanted her to realise her mistake but he could have done it in some other way. But as I said, he was too hurt and he took the first chance he got. He will regret it later i am sure. But obviously, now Suman would not forgive him. But at least she will realise the extent of his hurt.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

I do agree with you. Yes it's a tough one and its hard to watch a girl be put down. But as he was narrating the past and asking everyone if they knew that he and Suman had been friends, the answer was very clear. In her memories we could see that she knew he was right. She never publicly acknowledged him. He said she used him, made him do her homework and he was a nerd. But now what has changed is that he is a successful, rich and eligible bachelor. So of course now she wants to know him, just like so many girl from Dehli to London do.

It was a tough one, but I am afraid this had to happen for Suman to realize the gravity of the issue from Shravan's side. But what exactly went down 10 years ago, other than her generally callous behavior is the question. What was the story of the "response by letter" than Shravan was referring to? Now that will make everything more clear to us! But I tend to agree with what you said. Suman sort of got her comeuppance. But Shravan's method's were still wrong!


@bold I would not argue with that at all. I agree completely. Public humiliation is not the right way. He needed an outlet to vent his feelings that has been repressed and he chose the first chance that he got. He will realise his mistake later, but it will be too late.

I believe that there should be realisation on both sides. Suman should realise the gravity of what she did all those years ago and Shravan should realise that if he wanted her to realise her mistake then he should have chosen some other way and his method was wrong.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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You penned exactly what was in my mind. I couldn't have expressed it better.
Suman could have contacted Shravan through mobile or fb and said sorry if she truly repented. When Shravan was came back she let her ego front than her repentance. He stayed away from everything he loved for the last ten years as he was that hurt. If she was his true friend she would have understood his pain then and would have done something to mend the hurt. She expected him to jump in happiness when she said sorry. Not fair Sumo. And not fair on Shravan, this is not the way to show the mirror. He should have a consideration for her present situation.

But I truly hope they understand each other and how much hurt each other.
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