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krish_1

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Posted: 6 years ago

#381

the guy fell down after using his powers...if he had so much powers he wouldn't have waited 2 years...n vyoom to cook up lies about him...some powers are drawn due to emotional connectivity...why can't anyone write a character like that!!!...vyoom killed everyone who came between him n saranya but not madhvi...same emotional connection...we behave differently when it comes to people we care about...so lets first watch the episodes and then predict ...

I think they will answer every question in future episodes...can't judge anything from raw footages...

many scenes are yet to come before that!!

last rites are a set of pujas done...by which according to Hindu beliefs the spirit is supposed to attain salvation...it can be done without cremation of the body..last rites are done for the people whose body is never discovered also...

I think if vyoom was played by any typical villain people will believe the story as it is!! most of the fans(any fans) cant accept their favorite to show shades of negativity even if they claim they like grey...what they actually prefer at eod is a guy with heart of gold!! its the truth

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shreya

@.Lilith.

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Posted: 6 years ago

#382

Originally posted by: krish_1
the guy fell down after using his powers...if he had so much powers he wouldn't have waited 2 years...n vyoom to cook up lies about him...some powers are drawn due to emotional connectivity...why can't anyone write a character like that!!!...vyoom killed everyone who came between him n saranya but not madhvi...same emotional connection...we behave differently when it comes to people we care about...so lets first watch the episodes and then predict ...
I think they will answer every question in future episodes...can't judge anything from raw footages...
many scenes are yet to come before that!!

last rites are a set of pujas done...by which according to Hindu beliefs the spirit is supposed to attain salvation...it can be done without cremation of the body..last rites are done for the people whose body is never discovered also...

I think if vyoom was played by any typical villain people will believe the story as it is!! most of the fans(any fans) cant accept their favorite to show shades of negativity even if they claim they like grey...what they actually prefer at eod is a guy with heart of gold!! its the truth

I know about last rites, but technically speaking, it doesn't really help- or it does, it depends on the situation. Once again, quoting your previous comments on the show and the characters, "there is no rule book for makers to follow when they're showing supernatural stuff". I believe you said it yourself that makers do have the liberty to show whatever they want, till it has some logic. So the last rites theory can well be just that- wild speculation. Even cremating bodies are not always a sure shot guarantee of the spirit never coming back.

Also, raw bits or not, it was clearly shown that Shiv was saving Avni before Sharanya and Rati reached the spot. The little kid was tied to a harness and Namik was moving his hands up like Shiv usually does when he's in an action mode.

Talking about Vyom being played by some typical villain- LOL...of course that won't be possible because he would've been outright dismissed as the villain from Day one. The casting depends on a lot of things, and one of the aspects of casting an actor to play a character like Vyom is, you need someone who could make you believe in his innocence in one moment and then shock you by showing his true colours, the next.

If you feel that I am biased towards any actor, well, that's your opinion on me and not the truth. I don't feel like repeating the same thing again and again. 😊 Coming to the characters, I feel zero emotional connection to any of them except Nawab. It's the level of intensity that VaNya has as a couple that I find appealing which ShivAnya clearly lack. I rest my case here.

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krish_1

@krish_1

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Posted: 6 years ago

#383

yeah...i always liked prateeks choice of vikram playing vyoom...his face is mysterious...also i like his portrayal of vyoom(dual vyoom)

what i meant is if vyoom was some random forever villain then no questions will be asked by fans...but here he is more than that...

about last rites, i was just answering to the points given by u...

I said most of the fans...even highlighted that..never pinpointed at u...how can i when i dont know you personally...

i just quoted the general trend...even if its namiks or vikrams fans...again clearly the lack of intensity is ur opinion...u connect to vanya where some people does to shiv-saranya...its normal...we all are different individuals 😊

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Karaali

@Karaali

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Posted: 6 years ago

#384

I can't connect to either pairing which is why I stick to the main forum or this AT.

Getting back to Sharanya -- overall there are 2 possibilities; either she is grey or she is not. I am rooting for her to be grey. If she turns out to be the master planner, all the better. Logic be damned - abhi tak kya logical hua hai jo aage logic hona chahiye? If the viewers like the twist, they forget all about logic.

If Sharanya is all positive, then the story is straight-forward in terms of the overall outline. There will more plans, failures, and counter-plans until the killer/master planner is unmasked at the end.

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krish_1

@krish_1

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Posted: 6 years ago

#385

Originally posted by: Karaali
I can't connect to either pairing which is why I stick to the main forum or this AT.
Getting back to Sharanya -- overall there are 2 possibilities; either she is grey or she is not. I am rooting for her to be grey. If she turns out to be the master planner, all the better. Logic be damned - abhi tak kya logical hua hai jo aage logic hona chahiye? If the viewers like the twist, they forget all about logic.

If Sharanya is all positive, then the story is straight-forward in terms of the overall outline. There will more plans, failures, and counter-plans until the killer/master planner is unmasked at the end.

but narrative changes na? it's not all about logic!! any twist has to be in line with the narrative...

I think its the emotional side they are planning to bring up now...we will have to wait for it...

vyoom is already out there...so now its the link they have to connect...y vyoom is like that!! what exactly happened between the three...what is the secret of bedis?

chandini doesn't know shiv was killed by vyoom...but still she said if i reveal sth ur husband and son will be exposed...

why exactly a vintage car was used?!! he can go in a normal car...

whose personality is taking over vyoom?!!

what did madhvi do when vyoom was 5?

how did bedis hurt shiv's family?!!

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jas

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Posted: 6 years ago

#386

@karali m strongly agree wid u

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shreya

@.Lilith.

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Posted: 6 years ago

#387

Originally posted by: Karaali
I can't connect to either pairing which is why I stick to the main forum or this AT.
Getting back to Sharanya -- overall there are 2 possibilities; either she is grey or she is not. I am rooting for her to be grey. If she turns out to be the master planner, all the better. Logic be damned - abhi tak kya logical hua hai jo aage logic hona chahiye? If the viewers like the twist, they forget all about logic.

If Sharanya is all positive, then the story is straight-forward in terms of the overall outline. There will more plans, failures, and counter-plans until the killer/master planner is unmasked at the end.

@Bold Red THIS! 🤣

If you read the first 10-15 pages of this AT, you'll know that me wishing for a Grey Sharanya is not new...it's been there since the show started! 🤪

Back then, I was positive that Vyom was lying, and Shiv's couplets by the end of each episode kept hinting towards some betrayal by Sharanya meted out to Shiv. This way, I concluded that she might've played both the men and never really been in love with either- that's why one went crazy in love and the other in hate.

After that, when some flashes of Shiv's past were being shown, I concluded that she might've dated Shiv at one point but broken up with him because of his obsessive streak and may have started dating Vyom afterwards. But the change didn't go down well with Shiv and he may have reacted in some way (the FB of Vyom being stabbed and Shiv shouting "Sharanya sirf meri hain" with a bloodied knife in hand) and have somehow ended up dead, courtesy the Bedis.

Both of these stories probably had great potential- especially for the 3 leads in question. But then the cheesy AKK track started and my hopes went down the drain. 🤔

Shiv got dumbed down to the extent that he had nothing to do except tailing the FL everywhere and saying stuff like "Sharanya chup", "Sharanya kuchh mat kehna", "Sharanya stop it", etc.

Sharanya went from bodyguard mode to detective mode.

Aur Vyom ka toh kya kehna! Worst character butchering I've ever seen on ITV! I couldn't believe my ears when I heard him saying he was "acting" possessed (flying around, showing superhuman strength, no less). And make no mistake, these things were "predicted" by a member on this forum and the writers implemented it

Therefore, if THAT shit is possible, mera prediction toh uske saamne kuchh bhi nahin. 😆

Edited by .Lilith. - 6 years ago

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Karaali

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Posted: 6 years ago

#388

Originally posted by: krish_1
but narrative changes na? it's not all about logic!! any twist has to be in line with the narrative...
I think its the emotional side they are planning to bring up now...we will have to wait for it...
vyoom is already out there...so now its the link they have to connect...y vyoom is like that!! what exactly happened between the three...what is the secret of bedis?
chandini doesn't know shiv was killed by vyoom...but still she said if i reveal sth ur husband and son will be exposed...
why exactly a vintage car was used?!! he can go in a normal car...
whose personality is taking over vyoom?!!
what did madhvi do when vyoom was 5?
how did bedis hurt shiv's family?!!

@bold - twists change the narrative - logical or not. Most viewers focus on what they want to see and will justify the twist as they want to.

My theories for your questions:

- Secret of bedis - vyoom is cuckoo and they are smugglers/black marketers/corrupt builders i.e. paise ke liye kuch bhi karne wale log. Not expecting anymore that.

- Vintage car - they needed to plant a clue in the lush green landscape like the mole on killer's leg - right where the socks end. How many killers roam around with such clear birthmarks that get exposed just at the right moment? - iss mein kaunsa logic tha?

- Personality taking over Vyom - don't care. they are unlikely to explain. I didn't follow Beyhad to the end but I understand the CVs didn't explain why she like that or what happened on her 9th birthday.

- Madhavi - threw vyom down the stairs in a fit of anger - would be a sort of an explanation of his current mental state but desi mothers are so much more nicer than real women or maybe had an affair that produced Shiv. Both unlikely but whatever she did in not going to be relevant to Sharanya.

- Bedi/shiv family - most likely will boil down to money/land (madhavi's affair - unlikely).

None of the above needs to be too deep. The CVs just like to use big dialogues like ghere raaz" as they sound good/dramatic.

Also if you notice - most Bedi stuff (chandni-rajan, vidyut-rati, madhavi's secret, shiv's parent's killing, etc. etc.) has nothing to do with Sharanya directly unless she was involved with the family before her accident but they have not shown anything of the type.

I really hope they don't go on the emotional side. They can barely handle the thriller angles.

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Karaali

@Karaali

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Posted: 6 years ago

#389

Originally posted by: .Lilith.

If you read the first 10-15 pages of this AT, you'll know that me wishing for a Grey Sharanya is not new...it's been there since the show started! 🤪

Back then, I was positive that Vyom was lying, and Shiv's couplets by the end of each episode kept hinting towards some betrayal by Sharanya meted out to Shiv. This way, I concluded that she might've played both the men and never really been in love with either- that's why one went crazy in love and the other in hate.

After that, when some flashes of Shiv's past were being shown, I concluded that she might've dated Shiv at one point but broken up with him because of his obsessive streak and may have started dating Vyom afterwards. But the change didn't go down well with Shiv and he may have reacted in some way (the FB of Vyom being stabbed and Shiv shouting "Sharanya sirf meri hain" with a bloodied knife in hand) and have somehow ended up dead, courtesy the Bedis.

Both of these stories probably had great potential- especially for the 3 leads in question. But then the cheesy AKK track started and my hopes went down the drain. 🤔

Shiv got dumbed down to the extent that he had nothing to do except tailing the FL everywhere and saying stuff like "Sharanya chup", "Sharanya kuchh mat kehna", "Sharanya stop it", etc.

Sharanya went from bodyguard mode to detective mode.

Aur Vyom ka toh kya kehna! Worst character butchering I've ever seen on ITV! I couldn't believe my ears when I heard him saying he was "acting" possessed (flying around, showing superhuman strength, no less). And make no mistake, these things were "predicted" by a member on this forum and the writers implemented it

Therefore, if THAT shit is possible, mera prediction toh uske saamne kuchh bhi nahin. 😆

I have followed the AT from the beginning but did not comment earlier as it was more or less similar to sharanya-vyom AT 😊

Since this is "thriller", I am expecting a big twist towards the end of the show - something to make the climax worthwhile. Some options:

1. Vyom is delusional - did not kill anyone but thinks he did

2. Vyom kills Sharanya and his whole family

3. Vyom is Shiv in a face mask. Real Vyom was killed by shv. That ghost is actually Vyom's ghost in shiv's ghost mask.

4. Sharanya kills vyom

5. Sharanya married shiv and then killed him (like movie Karz) but he does't know she is the killer

6. Shiv is here for revenge and planning to take Sharanya with him

7. Shiv did not die from fall from the cliff but was sacrificed in a human-bali ritual to come back as a ghost

8. Sharanya was the real stalker who wanted Vyom (replace with shiv if you prefer) in anyway. She went in cahoots with Sadhavi to get her love and was on her way to commit suicide but lost her memory instead.

9. Sharanya killed everyone, including her father, for love or money or both

Again, please do your best to avoid the use of logic. The narrative discussion is OK - I think it can be twisted from its current state to meet any of the above possibilities.

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shreya

@.Lilith.

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Posted: 6 years ago

#390

Originally posted by: Karaali

I have followed the AT from the beginning but did not comment earlier as it was more or less similar to sharanya-vyom AT 😊

Since this is "thriller", I am expecting a big twist towards the end of the show - something to make the climax worthwhile. Some options:
1. Vyom is delusional - did not kill anyone but thinks he did
2. Vyom kills Sharanya and his whole family
3. Vyom is Shiv in a face mask. Real Vyom was killed by shv. That ghost is actually Vyom's ghost in shiv's ghost mask.
4. Sharanya kills vyom
5. Sharanya married shiv and then killed him (like movie Karz) but he does't know she is the killer
6. Shiv is here for revenge and planning to take Sharanya with him
7. Shiv did not die from fall from the cliff but was sacrificed in a human-bali ritual to come back as a ghost
8. Sharanya was the real stalker who wanted Vyom (replace with shiv if you prefer) in anyway. She went in cahoots with Sadhavi to get her love and was on her way to commit suicide but lost her memory instead.
9. Sharanya killed everyone, including her father, for love or money or both

Again, please do your best to avoid the use of logic. The narrative discussion is OK - I think it can be twisted from its current state to meet any of the above possibilities.

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

I'm trying to imagine the last option becoming true! Prateek will be crowned for inventing a new species like Sharanya who swats men and women like flies. 😎 🤣

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