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Sunshine

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Posted: 12 years ago

#41

Originally posted by: mysticgoryfilms

@bold: Are you serious? He didn't murder his own baby. Alright, it was sad he blamed Jhanvi for the miscarriage but he didn't murder the baby.

If Viraj is an attempted murderer, what should we call Raghav then? An actual murderer? He killed two goons right in front of you, right in front of me, right in front of everyone. There's no other explanation that can perhaps defend his murder.

Unless, for some reason, you want to say Raghav didn't murder. Then Viraj didn't murder either.
What was shown of Raghav's is far more than what was shown with Viraj's victims.

Forget the foetus but that doctor in hospital?

And don't give me that illogical explanation of noone knowing what happened ultimately coz even if by his own luck someone saved him yet Viraj cannot escape coz he left him the morgue, locked in that drawer only to kill him/ punishment to lie about his wife

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Aditi

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Posted: 12 years ago

#42

Originally posted by: SunShine_A
Forget the kid but that doctor in hospital?
And don't give me this stupid reason of noone knowing what happened ultimately coz even if by his own luck someone would hd saved him yet Viraj cannot escape coz he left him the morgue, locked in that drawer only to kill him/ punishment to lie about his wife

Thanks for letting me know you are defending Raghav's murder. Now when someone defends Viraj for his "supposed" murder, then please no one jump at him/her.

There is not one solid argument saying Viraj murdered. The guard he left in the trunk... how can anyone say what happened to him? Viraj might have let him escape. There could be a number of possibilities. The doctor at the morgue, there is a number of options that could have happened as well. Other doctors could have saved him. Not just, "he died". Let's not say Viraj murdered someone just because you don't like him. What he did to Komolika, everyone thought she was going to die. But in the next episode the CVs cleared that Viraj loosened the rope, so she didn't die.

When he shot the goon - the next episode it was clear he was wearing a bullet-proof vest and it was all a part of Viraj's plan.

My point is, the CVs never showed Viraj actually killing someone in front of our eyes where no one could have denied he murdered someone. So don't play this game. It's understandable you don't like Viraj, but let's not tag him as a murderer when no one has a solid proof just because of your dislike for him.

In regards to Raghav, it was shown clearly that he murdered. Now I had a long argument about this in the past but it is clear that he murdered. Only way I would be proven wrong is if the goons magically show up. Until that happens, Raghav has murdered. There was no "act of self-defense". The goons did not attack Raghav. They did not know he was there. He surprised them by killing them. If Raghav only wanted to talk to Shekhawat, tell me, what was the need to kill the goons? Why couldn't he just beat them up like how he usually does? It's not like anyone's life was in danger and he just had to kill them because he had no another option.

Raghav is a murderer, Viraj isn't. If you guys say Raghav is not a murderer, then still Viraj isn't either. What they have shown with Raghav is far more than what they have shown with Viraj.

I see you edited the act of self-defense line, but you still wrote it. So my post still stands.

Edited by mysticgoryfilms - 12 years ago

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Sunshine

@SunShine_A

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Posted: 12 years ago

#43

first of all, can you only defend or justify V by comparing his actions to Raghav kya? second of all, you accuse me of tagging viraj as murderer because I dislike, but aren't you doing the same? And third of all, if you won't believe that Raghav didn't kill the goons unless you see them alive, then how do you assume that doesn't apply to me? When I see the dog, the guard, and the doctor alive, then I'll believe he didn't kill them🤣

especially in doctor's case😛

and I edited that self defense only coz I thought you were referring kidnapping when I read again I realised you are talking about epi I hv nt seen but just heard from people

Edited by SunShine_A - 12 years ago

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Aditi

@mysticgoryfilms

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Posted: 12 years ago

#44

Originally posted by: SunShine_A
first of all, can you only defend or justify V by comparing his actions to Raghav kya? second of all, you accuse me of tagging viraj as murderer because I dislike, but aren't you doing the same? And third of all, if you won't believe that Raghav didn't kill the goons unless you see them alive, then how do you assume that doesn't apply to me? When I see the dog, the guard, and the doctor alive, then I'll believe he didn't kill them🤣
especially in doctor's case😛

and I edited that self defense only coz I thought you were referring kidnapping when I read again I realised you are talking about epi I hv nt seen but just heard from people

@bold: You were talking about Raghav before you edited your post. Now how was I suppose to know that you edited it only to Viraj? I would have only talked about him then. After I saw your edit, I did not want to edit mine since I already wrote so much.

@red: Nope, I'm not. That's because I have proof to back up my statement.

At the rest, that's what I've been saying. Read the bottom of my last post. If Raghav hasn't murdered for you then neither has Viraj. Because what they have shown for Raghav is far more than what they have shown with Viraj's victims.

I don't think I need to say that again and again.

About the self-defense, alright. But I don't feel like going back and editing it now.

Edited by mysticgoryfilms - 12 years ago

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phil

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Posted: 12 years ago

#45

Viraj Dobriyal is shown as a character that is black .Yes Karanveer has given it a classic touch to it.But a man who abuses women in general is no way a hero no matter what the causes are(child abuse) Jhanvi is in a way to be blamed too cause the first time he hurt her she should have fought her way out of it.

Her married life was hell and the fact that even if Viraj gets treated (unlikely)she has the right to refuse to go back to him.

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KhatamKahani

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Posted: 12 years ago

#46

Originally posted by: phil

Viraj Dobriyal is shown as a character that is black .Yes Karanveer has given it a classic touch to it.But a man who abuses women in general is no way a hero no matter what the causes are(child abuse) Jhanvi is in a way to be blamed too cause the first time he hurt her she should have fought her way out of it.
Her married life was hell and the fact that even if Viraj gets treated (unlikely)she has the right to refuse to go back to him.

Phil, no one here has said he is a hero. Yes, words like protagonist were used, but that's not the same as hero.

And no one in this topic has said she is obligated to stick with him afterwards. I don't even think it's Jhanvi's obligation try to get him help. What she does need to do though is put an end to all this crap that's going on. But the CVs are damn bent on bringing in all kinds of convoluted plots and developments, and making this very little of her against Viraj as possible.

Sia in the Singhania household has hardly done anything that's worth praising. Very few things have she done that are commendable, and even those are mostly tied to Raghav and what Viraj has done to Raghav.

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phil

@phil

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Posted: 12 years ago

#47

Lik, yeah thats true ,But then we got nearly 3 months of Sia saying i will not be afraid of Viraaj I suppose it will take another three for the truth to come out.Hope to the CVs don't decide to try superman cartoon next on Viraaj.

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KhatamKahani

@KhatamKahani

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Posted: 12 years ago

#48

We can only hope the truth comes out Sept 1st.

:sigh:

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