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Posted: 12 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: -vandy-

hilarious is the word mishtiROFL coz there r high chances that the audience who watch sb...have not seen batman...and have no idea wat the joker is all abtROFL so wen the epi airs tonight...they might ask their children to come and see a joker on screen...all set to break into a juggling act,...but will be highly disappointedROFL haila..i loved ur adjectives for v...rapist muderer...liar manipulator...

lemme add a few more
backstabber...flirt...and a danger to societyROFL
but mishti...v was a black character right from day one...i never saw him as a grey character xcoz al he did was for his self satisfaction...no matter if he was destroying other ppl's life...
but neways coming to the topic...
i feel that all this spiderman batman nonsense is nothing but wastage of time...
the cvs should end his character asap...and focus on the main plot..
how sia...a victim of domestic violence starts her life afresh...gets happiness in her life...and how her story unfolds...from that point...with no shadow of her past lurking over her as she has the support of her family...
and i've seen ppl cry over this issue of dv...how and where it should be...
i feel the writers have given out the message...
if u r a victim..its never too late to break free from ur abuser...grab the closest opportunity...and end the relationship...
thats the basic message which should have been given out thru this show...and it has been given out...loud and clear!

@bold: true. Viraj never stayed within the boundaris of a gray character. But I remember reading somewhere in the beginning of the show that Viraj was supposed to be a gray character, but I never really understood HOW he was supposed to be that 😕. But now I'm convinced that Viraj is in fact a black character.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: mysticgoryfilms


Viraj is not a murderer though. What he did in the past, it was never ever clear if the people died or not. And I don't think it will be clear. So as of now, he isn't a murderer.

Just because some say he doesn't suffer from OCPD, that doesn't automatically mean he doesn't suffer from OCPD. He suffers from OCPD. How do I know? The show said it. They had a track on it. They went about it the wrong way, but if the CVs have said he has OCPD, what makes us viewers say he doesn't?

"Oh, an OCPD patient doesn't do this and doesn't do that". So? They have said it clearly in the show he suffers from OCPD. Now we can't change that, can we?

Viraj is very much an OCPD patient.

@bold: He is a murderer. He murdered his own baby! But if you still find him not guilty then fine, he attempted murder...not that it makes it any better. For me, leaving a doctor in that drawer where you keep dead people and LOCKING the drawer, and locking another person in the trunk of a car will lead to the death of those people.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: Desi_Girl1991

@bold: He is a murderer. He murdered his own baby! But if you still find him not guilty then fine, he attempted murder...not that it makes it any better. For me, leaving a doctor in that drawer where you keep dead people and LOCKING the drawer, and locking another person in the trunk of a car will lead to the death of those people.


@bold: Are you serious? He didn't murder his own baby. Alright, it was sad he blamed Jhanvi for the miscarriage but he didn't murder the baby.

If Viraj is an attempted murderer, what should we call Raghav then? An actual murderer? He killed two goons right in front of you, right in front of me, right in front of everyone. There's no other explanation that can perhaps defend his murder.

Unless, for some reason, you want to say Raghav didn't murder. Then Viraj didn't murder either.
What was shown of Raghav's is far more than what was shown with Viraj's victims.
Edited by mysticgoryfilms - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Desi_Girl1991

@bold: true. Viraj never stayed within the boundaris of a gray character. But I remember reading somewhere in the beginning of the show that Viraj was supposed to be a gray character, but I never really understood HOW he was supposed to be that 😕. But now I'm convinced that Viraj is in fact a black character.

v was never meant to be grey mishti...
he was always a self obsessed psychipath who did not think twice before hurting or physically abusing others...
the fact that he did not spare his pregnant wife...was a proof that he was is and will always be a black character in this show...
grey characters r characters where u see a hint of goodness...but in case of there was none
ppl might argue that he was good with jahnvi...but that was only till the point he knew jahnvi was going to fulfill his dream of a male child...there was an ulterior self obsession..self satisfaction motive out there!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: mysticgoryfilms


@bold: Are you serious? He didn't murder his own baby. Alright, it was sad he blamed Jhanvi for the miscarriage but he didn't murder the baby.

If Viraj is an attempted murderer, what should we call Raghav then? An actual murderer? He killed two goons right in front of you, right in front of me, right in front of everyone. There's no other explanation that can perhaps defend his murder.

Unless, for some reason, you want to say Raghav didn't murder. Then Viraj didn't murder either.
What was shown of Raghav's is far more than what was shown with Viraj's victims.


@ Bold: I seem to have missed this episode. When and who did Raghav murder? Yes, Raghav is perfectly capable of murder, with different motives to Viraj, but also, Raghav is perfectly capable of getting caught! and Viraj so far has avoided being caught.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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^ It was an episode aired about two weeks ago, I think. Raghav wanted to meet Shekhawat to turn him against Viraj. But two goons were blocking his way. Instead of just beating them like how how he usually does, this time he got this sudden desire to kill them. So he cracked their necks and they died.

All to meet Shekhawat. 😕
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Posted: 12 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: Desi_Girl1991

@bold: He is a murderer. He murdered his own baby! But if you still find him not guilty then fine, he attempted murder...not that it makes it any better. For me, leaving a doctor in that drawer where you keep dead people and LOCKING the drawer, and locking another person in the trunk of a car will lead to the death of those people.



@ Bold Italics: Viraj pushed Jahnavi and it resulted in Jahnavi having a miscarriage. If I remember right, Viraj also drove his car into Jahnavi and she fell headlong into a deep pit by the side of the road. She was taken to hospital and the doc. said she was pregnant. She didn't have a miscarriage then. But by merely being shoved over she ended up with a miscarriage. I think the CVs don't think through the events. But technically speaking, Viraj didn't murder his baby, he pushed his pregnant wife in anger and she had a miscarriage. The end result is -loss of a pregnancy-not murder of a baby.

@ Red: If I were in the hospital, I would have rescued the doctor after Viraj and Unniyal left. I hope the doc. got saved. But what the doc. did was criminal. Falsifying someone's medical report, especially in a matter as serious as death.

@ Bold underlined: True. But, may be Viraj also had provided some sort of an escape route from the trunk of the car, the same way that Jahnavi escaped when she was hiding in the trunk of a car in Raghav's garage.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: SunShine_A

Show is based on movies like Agnisakshi and Darar which had one antagonist and protagonist so entry of an\ hero was always in cards but problem erupted coz thy presented the show as voice against DV, used that sensitive issue to cash in, and audience's sentiments with such an issue to gain trps. People expected some reality from this show, no matter how OTT it was from day 1 yet everyone expected that at some place they would see Jhanvi taking a stand and fighting against it and they did expect some knowledge about laws and orders through the show on this issue like it was for BV and Laado, I have not seen Laado but heard about it till a point it was against girl foeticide and in BV, they tried to show life of a BV by adding the drama here and there for show trps but their show was never voice against BV, they just kept adding the consequences and -ve effects to the show but DSD makers used it as voice against but never showed anything apart from those tortures, there was nothing in the show about the issue and with time they made it complete fictional with entry of hero which was bound to happen due to that inspiration from holly/bolly movies they took and seeing how V's style attract viewers, they tried to cash on him very hard as well making him stupid and monotonous now


And so now we all seeing effects of this in dipping trps, when they have made the complete mockery of two issues upon which they sold their show at first

For me it was never a voice against DV and all that bell bajao events were just a way to sell their show, makers never intended to create awareness about this social issue

So its jut not now but the issue has been a joke for the them from always, we are seeing it just now
I don't see even a bit of reality in this whole drama and its the reason why top show of a channel slipped to 3rd-4th position, it was never a drama for viewers well not like some people like me I know and as a common viewer I feel it serves them rights.






completeley agree Aashi👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
#39
Viraj's character went from being terrifying to comical. But kudos to KB for putting up with this mess and still doing a good job with what he has to work with.

I guess the joker aspect was supposed to portray the same effect that Heath Ledger had in the Batman movie. However, I guess the CVs forgot that they are working with an Indian soap opera that focuses (or at least was supposed to focus) on spousal abuse and not a superhero flick. I'm almost curious to see if the Batman movie producers can sue for this bakwaas 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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The Joker is a comic book character.

Just like Superman

I would guess the copyrights issue would be the same as people donning a Superman costume on shows or films and making Clark Kent or Superman references.

I am guessing.



ETA Doh @my dumb mistake.
Edited by likarsh - 12 years ago
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