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Posted: 12 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: prerna4rishav

The show has lost its originality and reality LONG back ! As for the spiderman krap thing, it was really OTT I dont understand what's the point of this !

Viraj doesnt need any ACT to scare others.. Jokers aint scary first of all ! And Viraj's entry only had that poise and impact .. He didnt need any makeup bla blah..

Agree they need not put extra efforts for character viraj to make it scary wid this joker and spiderman stuff 🥱 his entry and characterisation (which was from the start of the show ) itself had that impact and as said by mystic if cv's weren't preoccupied wid other unnecessary things they would have maintained that true essense viraj character used to have 😕 i still can't get what was the necessity to bring in singhania family in to the plot 😕 and all that viraj and jhanvi in gurgaon thing lost the connection wid main story...cv's created this mess and don't know where they are heading wid these meaningless tracks
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soaps1



As for "other characters" no show can run with two characters only this show needed other characters but unfortunately in their love for one character they did not give other characters their due often and ignored them and that includes jhanvi herself ...

Why can't show run wid two characters when the story is only abt those two characters 😕 it was always abt viraj and jhanvi, atleast till the time jhanvi is completely out of viraj life and at present she isn't out of her past so she is still connected to him for various reasons... many shows will be based on only two main characters where the story most of time revolves around them and other characters are always a support and they can never be equal so its obvious cv's will focus on main cast and reg jhanvi before at one point of time i did feel they didn't focus on her thought process but from quite few days they have been really focusing like interaction wid her parents,slapping viraj and enduring pain track though it doesn't make sense 🥱 but still there is a focus on jhanvi these days ...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Wondering if the cvs want to send VD in comedy circus ?😵. V is getting stupid day by day. Want him to get defeated and punished but want him to lose the way VD used to be at the start of the show

.The show is about J who has fight her abuser V but since they shifted gurgaon and R s family s entry it a became diffent show altogether .R can be there but see NO need of R s family in the picture.Its only creating drag like first she had own family and cant fight him feeling that V will kill her family. BUT now its getting overboard with samething again with R s family s safety.

Wish they show sense able track and finish the story rather then this useless stuff they r showing to run the show 4 longer time.

Mental illness of V had been forgotten long ago 😆.
Edited by -prime- - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soaps1


Just go and see the focus on V after Raghav entered and you will get your answer ... I would be the last person to say Viraj is not important to this story, he is, there is no story without him but every character needs to maintain a thirst amongst the viewers, which V lost due to over exposure ... for example when jhanvi ran away they should have taken out V for sometime and focused on J ... and then brought back V ... this would have kept curiosity for his character as well as fear of the character intact ... but they were so hell bent on not doing a single episode without him that they actually made him do silly things at times which ultimately harmed the character!!! That is where quality of storyline and script was compromised to accommodate V ... As for "other characters" no show can run with two characters only this show needed other characters but unfortunately in their love for one character they did not give other characters their due often and ignored them and that includes jhanvi herself ... you have a right to disagree but this is my opinion and epis after Raghav's entry where he was more or less an extra are a proof ... no more on this from me


Who said you can't have your own opinion? You can have an opinion and I will counter your opinion if need be. That is called a discussion.

Like Athena said, a show can run on two characters speficially if the show is only about those two characters. In this case it is Viraj and Jhanvi. No, not just Jhanvi. The first promo did say "Jhanvi ki kahani" but that meant crap pretty soon after the show started. It quickly became Viraj's story as well. And no matter how much people oppose/deny this, he brought in the TRPs and made the show popular for what it was.

The rest of the characters - you know who I'm talking about, are suppose to help the storyline but not take over the entire show. Especially since they have no connection to the story, at least the way the CVs are going about this, they have absolutely no connection.

Now, about Viraj getting "overexposed"... what? He's the lead character, if they won't show him (and Jhanvi) who else will they show? Like Athena said again, there was a time when I felt Jhanvi didn't have much to do, particularly during the Dadi track, but she soon gained importance again. Of course they had to show Viraj after Jhanvi's death. The audience wanted to know how he coped with her death. The CVs could have shown that much better than they did, but just because Jhanvi "died" it doesn't mean they were going to stop showing Viraj till months after. This is not a movie. And if they don't show the lead character for that long of a duration, the actor in particular, will feel like he's been cheated. The "silly" things that the CVs made him do then did not harm the character. No one complained about Viraj then. It actually made him funny and interesting. They are however making him do silly things now, reasons which I do not need to elaborate on. I've said it enough in other topics.

Viraj didn't lose any appeal supposedly due to "overexposure". He is still the only interesting character. The CVs can make him dumb, they can make him goofy, they can make him anything they want, but the basic characterization of Viraj and the way KVB portrays him, he will always bring entertainment.

The CVs can still keep the curiosity and fear if they stick to his original characterization. This Viraj we are seeing today is not the old Viraj (no matter how much some claim he is), and I don't need to reiterate again and again why they have dumbed down Viraj. It's obvious now.

I didn't want to go specific in my last post but since you mentioned the unnecessary characters, the show had to accommodate them, or the CVs felt this desperate need accommodate them therefore the quality got compromised. Raghav, alright he came into this show as a "helper" for Jhanvi but his past, his family they all were unnecessary as they wanted to give him a backstory. They wanted to make him "complicated" and "complex". His family, his past have nothing to do with the show. They had to bring these in to glorify him thus, compromising on the quality.

Raghav is no more an "extra". Those days after his entry are long gone so we cannot blame only Viraj in regards to anything. The other characters hog the screen as well, sometimes much more than him.
Edited by mysticgoryfilms - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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You are again missing the point i am not blaming Viraj am blaming his treatment by the writers just as i blame the writers for Raghav's treatment ... but am not arguing on it anymore because i know there is no use , am sure if you are a writer you would yourself know where and how you went wrong, even if you don't want to admit it so i will leave it for them to decide. But i do believe a show needs good story before anything else ... someone providing entertainment can't work forever and it is my opinion that they compromised storyline as well as other characters including jhanvi for the sake of Viraj
Edited by Soaps1 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Soaps1

You are again missing the point i am not blaming Viraj am blaming his treatment by the writers just as i blame the writers for Raghav's treatment ... but am not arguing on it anymore because i know there is no use , am sure if you are a writer you would yourself know where and how you went wrong, even if you don't want to admit it so i will leave it for them to decide. But i do believe a show needs good story before anything else ... someone providing entertainment can't work forever and it is my opinion that they compromised storyline as well as other characters including jhanvi for the sake of Viraj


And it is my opinion that the quality of the show got compromised due to unnecessary characters just for the sake of glorifying them and making them "interesting".

Good. At least we both agree that we have different opinions.
Edited by mysticgoryfilms - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: prerna4rishav

The show has lost its originality and reality LONG back ! As for the spiderman krap thing, it was really OTT I dont understand what's the point of this !

Viraj doesnt need any ACT to scare others.. Jokers aint scary first of all ! And Viraj's entry only had that poise and impact .. He didnt need any makeup bla blah..

CV has lost it in order to make Raghav 'Raghav' ! 😆 They have taken the name too seriously ! 😊 Now that we have a Ram, there HAS to be a Raavan 👎🏼

@ bold : bang on...cvs of all da serials can't think beyond dis concept 🤔
Edited by -SMay31- - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I don't understand the Joker get up either. It's HILARIOUS 🤣 !!! but doesn't suit Viraj's character 😡

So right now, after reading Cari's wonderful research results and putting two and two together, I think Viraj is a sociopath, which includes being a murderer, a rapist, a liar, and a manipulative person. Viraj doesn't suffer from COPD because I know people who have COPD but are certainly not murderers or rapists! I think the show STARTED with Viraj being a gray character but after losing control over Jhanvi and how he wants Jhanvi to become Sia, he turned crazy and black.

I won't judge the joker look by just watching the precap. We all know that the precaps are VERY misleading (there's a good chance of it being a dream). So I'm gonna wait for the actual episode to air before saying anything...

Edited by Desi_Girl1991 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Desi_Girl1991

I don't understand the Joker get up either. It's HILARIOUS 🤣 !!! but doesn't suit Viraj's character 😡

So right now, after reading Cari's wonderful research results and putting two and two together, I think Viraj is a sociopath, which includes being a murderer, a rapist, a liar, and a manipulative person. Viraj doesn't suffer from COPD because I know people who have COPD but are certainly not murderers or rapists! I think the show STARTED with Viraj being a gray character but after losing control over Jhanvi and how he wants Jhanvi to become Sia, he turned crazy and black.

I won't judge the joker look by just watching the precap. We all know that the precaps are VERY misleading (there's a good chance of it being a dream). So I'm gonna wait for the actual episode to air before saying anything...


Viraj is not a murderer though. What he did in the past, it was never ever clear if the people died or not. And I don't think it will be clear. So as of now, he isn't a murderer.

Just because some say he doesn't suffer from OCPD, that doesn't automatically mean he doesn't suffer from OCPD. He suffers from OCPD. How do I know? The show said it. They had a track on it. They went about it the wrong way, but if the CVs have said he has OCPD, what makes us viewers say he doesn't?

"Oh, an OCPD patient doesn't do this and doesn't do that". So? They have said it clearly in the show he suffers from OCPD. Now we can't change that, can we?

Viraj is very much an OCPD patient.

Edited by mysticgoryfilms - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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unecessary characters?🤣

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