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Posted: 5 years ago
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So Deadnaming means using a person's birth name and Misgendering means addressing the person with birth pronoun. Both are offensive and grounds for banishment from twitter

Boy! It's hard to keep up! SNS and the virtue signaling left comes up with new rules and new terms every other day


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69-Year-Old Man Sues to Change His Legal Age to 49, Says its Similar to Being Transgender


A Dutch entrepreneur has filed a lawsuit to legally change his age to 49 that's 20 years younger than his chronological age. He says it is the same as being transgender.

Emile Ratelband, 69, wants to change his birthday from March 11, 1949, to March 1969.

"We live in a time when you can change your name and change your gender. Why can't I decide my own age?" he said.

A local court in the Netherlands will rule on the case in four weeks.

Ratelband says he wants to change his age because he feels discriminated against on the dating app, Tinder.

"When I'm on Tinder and it says I'm 69, I don't get an answer. When I'm 49, with the face I have, I will be in a luxurious position," he told the Dutch newspaper Algemeen Dagblad.

"When I'm 69, I am limited. If I'm 49, then I can buy a new house, drive a different car. I can take up more work," he said.

Ratelband also argued that doctors say he has the body of a 45-year-old.

He said he would renounce his pension if he is legally allowed to switch his birth date.


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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: BettyA1


So Deadnaming means using a person's birth name and Misgendering means addressing the person with birth pronoun. Both are offensive and grounds for banishment from twitter

Boy! It's hard to keep up! SNS and the virtue signaling left comes up with new rules and new terms every other day



Ah I'm still confused. Will have to ask a liberal male to mansplain to me..😆😆
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Posted: 5 years ago
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I don't think so. The gender fluid should make up a population of its own. In Thailand where the gender fluid makes up for give or take 10-15% of the population. They are a population of their own and considered a legal population. Not just a male who has tendency to become a woman. Not even considered woman after their gender transformation.
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Posted: 5 years ago
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May be off-topic, but saw this today :p



On topic, IDK honestly. Questions like these are very confusing, and I am really left with no answer.

But, one very general opinion I can share is, maybe the problems in human existence never cease to exist. Just like we are 'evolutionary', so are our problems that take different shape and form, and continue to accompany us.


Also, I am very confused about the whole conflict of ideas, where people say that gender shouldn't matter, and still demand their gender to be recognized in professional or public life, where it shouldn't really matter what gender you are or identify with, like in the OP. Why not make a list of all meritorious inclusive of all genders? Gender shouldn't matter in profession, unless it is something like military or a gender-sensitive profession, right?

And, this all-female talk show, all-female list of blah blah and things like that, are getting obsolete, if they are to go by the changing tides of today's world, IMO.

But anyway, if we head towards a society where multiple genders are recognized or otherwise, problems specific to each will continue to exist. Surely, as someone said, world is getting strange and utterly confusing in practical sense and... it will be very interesting to watch what will become of humans and society in my lifetime...

As long as natural or basic rights of human or should I say, living beings are upheld, everything should be okay. And that includes, giving weight to merit, and dissolving the gender lines in professions (barring a few).

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Originally posted by: Angel-likeDevil

May be off-topic, but saw this today :p




On topic, IDK honestly. Questions like these are very confusing, and I am really left with no answer.

But, one very general opinion I can share is, maybe the problems in human existence never cease to exist. Just like we are 'evolutionary', so are our problems that take different shape and form, and continue to accompany us.


Also, I am very confused about the whole conflict of ideas, where people say that gender shouldn't matter, and still demand their gender to be recognized in professional or public life, where it shouldn't really matter what gender you are or identify with, like in the OP. Why not make a list of all meritorious inclusive of all genders? Gender shouldn't matter in profession, unless it is something like military or a gender-sensitive profession, right?

And, this all-female talk show, all-female list of blah blah and things like that, are getting obsolete, if they are to go by the changing tides of today's world, IMO.

But anyway, if we head towards a society where multiple genders are recognized or otherwise, problems specific to each will continue to exist. Surely, as someone said, world is getting strange and utterly confusing in practical sense and... it will be very interesting to watch what will become of humans and society in my lifetime...

As long as natural or basic rights of human or should I say, living beings are upheld, everything should be okay. And that includes, giving weight to merit, and dissolving the gender lines in professions (barring a few).


Bold - That a very good point

Agree it's all very confusing bcz they come up with new rules, contradicting and conflicting rules every other day

IMO they're doing this on purpose... They need to whip up something new to stay in business... After gay marriage fight was over and it became legal they started with transgender bathroom issue

We didn't even knew that it was a problem until the ... Their demand was if a man felt like a woman he should be allowed to use women's bathroom ( or something like that)

P.S. Nice pic of Gene Tierney as Grandma
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: qwertyesque

How do women feel about gender fluid people who identify as women some of the time, taking up the position which is rightfully theirs?



This world is becoming a wierd place!
Indeed. This weirdness is getting nauseatic now.
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Congresswoman urges USA Powerlifting to lift its ban on trans women after constituent barred from competing

Minnesota Rep. Ilhan Omar called on USA Powerlifting to lift its discriminatory ban on trans women athletes.

Jim BuzinskiFeb 6, 2019, 12:29am PST
JayCee Cooper.

U.S. Rep. Ilhan Omar, (D-Minn.), is calling on USA Powerlifting to lift its ban on transgender women competing in its events.

In a letter to Priscilla Ribie, executive director of USA Powerlifting, and the group's president, Larry Maile, Omar wrote:

I am writing to express my concern over a recent decision by USA powerlifting to bar participation by my constituent, Ms. JayCee Cooper, because she is transgender.

Under the Minnesota Human Rights Act, discrimination against anyone based on their gender identity is illegal. This includes in public accommodations, and in Minnesota, organizations such as USA Powerlifting. In fact, just last month a Minnesota jury awarded Ms. Christina Ginther$20,000 after the Independent Women's Football League refused to allow her to participate because she is transgender.

I urge you to reconsider this discriminatory, unscientific policy and follow the example of the International Olympic Committee. The myth that trans women have a "direct competitive advantage is not supported by medical science, and it continues to stoke fear and violence against one of the most at-risk communities in the world.

While I do not have direct jurisdiction over this matter as a U.S. congresswoman, I'm sending this letter to Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison with a recommendation that he investigate this discriminatory behavior.

Cooper, a transgender woman who has won competitions competing for another powerlifting organization, was denied entry into a USA Powerlifting event in Minnesota, with the group saying: "Male-to-female transgenders are not allowed to compete as females in our static strength sports as it is a direct competitive advantage.

This decision flies in the face of a growing awareness by science about trans athletes and ignores the ruling by the IOC, which says trans athletes can compete if they follow certain conditions.

Cooper told City Pages in Minneapolis she had met all the criteria the IOC has set for trans female athletes:

Cooper says she followed the committee's rules. She's declared her gender for sporting purposes. She submitted five test results from 2016 to the present day, all of them showing her testosterone levels are well under the guidelines for competition. There's nothing in USA Powerlifting's bylaws that says she can't compete except an email from its leadership.

"It kind of takes you aback -- it takes your breath away, she says.

Cooper thanked Omar for her letter, saying, "No one deserves to be excluded because of who they are. [USA Powerlifting's] policy, and how I'm being treated IS NOT OKAY. The time for trans inclusion is NOW.

It is unclear whether Ellison will investigate the case, but it seems as if USA Powerlifting made an arbitrary and capricious decision Cooper sees as clearly discriminatory and is something the organization might now have to defend.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Recently 18 time Grand slam winner and former No.1 Martina Navratilova who is openly gay claimed that transgender women should not be allowed to play women's sports

"You can't just proclaim yourself a female and be able to compete against women," wrote Navratilova. "There must be some standards, and having a penis and competing as a woman would not fit that standard.

I promised to keep quiet on the subject until I had properly researched it... well, I've now done that and, if anything, my views have strengthened. To put the argument at its most basic: a man can decide to be female, take hormones if required by whatever sporting organisation is concerned, win everything in sight and perhaps earn a small fortune, and then reverse his decision and go back to making babies if he so desires.

It's insane and it's cheating. I was happy to address a transgender woman in whatever form she prefers, but I would not be happy to compete against her. It would not be fair. "


Navratilova's comments raised a lot of criticism

Following her remarks she was ousted from the ambassador post of the LGBT athletes group by Athlete Ally.
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Whoever is in the highest ranking of victim totem pole has the most advantage now

According to author Heather Mac Donald

Transgender trumps all other victimhoods

It trumps feminism, just as Europe's reaction to the mass Muslim sexual assaults of New Years Eve 2015 revealed that multiculturalism trumps feminism

She says

"Given the constant caterwauling about " rape culture " by campus feminists, one would have thought that feminists would've opposed allowing males use of facilities frequented by unclothed or otherwise vulnerable females. But it's now a sign of redneck bigotry to suggest that a heterosexual male ( rapist in waiting according to them ) or a sexual pervert may take advantage of the new trans rules "

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