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What about u. Have u been asked? Or anyone here. Pls share ur experiences
Originally posted by: Kyahikahoon
What about u. Have u been asked? Or anyone here. Pls share ur experiences
The vast majority of folks here, especially the older ones (can see you joined in 2008), would almost certainly be UC.
As a UC in a big city, do a simple experiment.
Look at the folks you may have interacted with on a regular basis- your immediate colony neighbours, your school friends (assuming you went to a private school), your college friends and your place of work (folks working in similar positions to you)
You might not be casteist, but you'll almost certainly find only UC folks in that circle.
And UC folks probably account for only 20% of this country.
It's pretty startling when you think of it- the segregation may not be meant to be intentional, but it certainly seems to exist, in an odd kind of way.
Imagine we have 10 seats in 5 colleges. All 5 are good colleges. 2 are reserved for marginalised communities. So if we have 10 students who pass the exam, everyone who passed will still get seat and have good education too. Now imagine you have 20 students, 15 passed the exam, only 10 are getting seats. Does this not mean we need more good quality educational institutes?
It's about admitting only students who are above a certain percentile into quality educational institutes. I understand the equity issues you are bringing up wherein students from disadvantaged backgrounds might be disproportionately excluded.
Excessive number of institutions could lead to lower standards and dilution of educational quality, even assuming there are enough qualified faculty to fill vacant positions and funds to pay them and pay for the facilities. And a surplus of graduates could lead to high levels of unemployment as the job market cannot absorb all the graduates.
There's ideal and then there's practical.
The vast majority of folks here, especially the older ones (can see you joined in 2008), would almost certainly be UC.
As a UC in a big city, do a simple experiment.
Look at the folks you may have interacted with on a regular basis- your immediate colony neighbours, your school friends (assuming you went to a private school), your college friends and your place of work (folks working in similar positions to you)
You might not be casteist, but you'll almost certainly find only UC folks in that circle.
And UC folks probably account for only 20% of this country.
It's pretty startling when you think of it- the segregation may not be meant to be intentional, but it certainly seems to exist, in an odd kind of way.
Not true..my friends, neighbours, classmates r spread across castes, states n religions.
FYI I have never asked anyone’s caste while befriending them..but get to know from their customs or sometimes from familiar last names. Doesnt make n iota of difference though
I have given you their ideologies, how are they left leaning? They are nothing similar to what left leaning people want. One race is superior ideology goes against the entire construct of socialism. I have no shame in learning new things. I went ahead and looked for some sources and I cannot find any credible source saying Hitler was left leaning. Could you provide me some source for this?
Here is one source I checked : https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/02/05/right-needs-stop-falsely-claiming-that-nazis-were-socialists/
All I said was I am pro human and pro taxing the wealthy people more. How is this not letting the country grow? There are several left leaning countries in Europe. They are still part of EU too. The regulations are generally to protect labour rights/ avoid bigger companies taking away business from small businesses.
the nazis started out as socialists (it's their official moniker, you know). It's another thing they eventually morphed into a nasty murderous regime when they had absolute power, which has been true of the soviets too. The world over, socialists and left-wing are very intolerant. They are the ones protesting and burning down things everywhere all the time... and they often engage in violence when they cant get their way. Look at that Bannerji female. Her supporters engage in shameful gundagardi and killings to scare away workers from other parties. She goes into a fish-market frenzy of shouting if you so much as wave a Jai Shri Ram flag at her.
you need to check more sources. I can post a dozen links immediately, but you really need to make the effort yourself!
Originally posted by: Kyahikahoon
Casteism existed. And reservations were introduced to uplift the underprivileged. So arent they uplifted even now after 3-4 generations who received the benefit? Even Ambedkar stated to abolish it after 10 years.
Originally posted by: K.Universe.
It's about admitting only students who are above a certain percentile into quality educational institutes. I understand the equity issues you are bringing up wherein students from disadvantaged backgrounds might be disproportionately excluded.
Excessive number of institutions could lead to lower standards and dilution of educational quality, even assuming there are enough qualified faculty to fill vacant positions and funds to pay them and pay for the facilities. And a surplus of graduates could lead to high levels of unemployment as the job market cannot absorb all the graduates.
There's ideal and then there's practical.
Excessive number of institutions could lower standards? The reason why you do not want reservations is because deserving candidates are not getting jobs and educational opportunities. If there are govt based colleges, why would there be enough qualified faculty? Are you say there are not enough jobs so people should not be educated? How is asking for more educational institutions impractical?
Originally posted by: CuckooCutter7
the nazis started out as socialists (it's their official moniker, you know). It's another thing they eventually morphed into a nasty murderous regime when they had absolute power, which has been true of the soviets too. The world over, socialists and left-wing are very intolerant. They are the ones protesting and burning down things everywhere all the time... and they often engage in violence when they cant get their way. Look at that Bannerji female. Her supporters engage in shameful gundagardi and killings to scare away workers from other parties. She goes into a fish-market frenzy of shouting if you so much as wave a Jai Shri Ram flag at her.
you need to check more sources. I can post a dozen links immediately, but you really need to make the effort yourself!
To be honest you can say anything is right without credible sources. I am sure of something but I still checked sources because you mentioned I need to, I also gave you the source too and now I am asking you for your sources. If you want to give sources you can, if not that is your wish.
They are not below average marks, they are passing the test. The marks cut off for general category is higher because we do not have enough colleges or educational institutes or job opportunities. Marginalised communities have reservation because they do not have generational wealth/ privileges.
No one is asking govt to not hire deserving candidates. Imagine we have 10 seats in 5 colleges. All 5 are good colleges. 2 are reserved for marginalised communities. So if we have 10 students who pass the exam, everyone who passed will still get seat and have good education too. Now imagine you have 20 students, 15 passed the exam, only 10 are getting seats. Does this not mean we need more good quality educational institutes? How are we concluding that reservation which actually uplifts a community is bad? Especially when casteism is still followed in the society.
@bold why would the central govt collect tax from state just to pay them back the exact amount? If that was true several states which have BJP rules govt will get way less funding.
that's ridiculous and totally misses the point. Most times when we have someone get in on the reservation quota, it is because he cant get in on merit. That's unfair to the smart kid who worked hard to excel. It's also bad news for the economy. Imagine a Google hiring 90% or even 50% of their employees based on that stupid Diversity Equity Inclusion program. Google would become worse than mediocre and wouldn't be able to compete.
it's weird too how folks like Pappu Gandhi want to dictate how much reservation quota to have, how much the rich should redistribute to others. 2 colleges etc. And they are saints. Meanwhile, Modi builds infrastructure that benefits everyone, provides toilets and drinking water and houses that uplifts one and all irrespective of caste or religion... and he is a dictator. Wah ji wah! Too nirala for words
Originally posted by: CuckooCutter7
that's ridiculous and totally misses the point. Most times when we have someone get in on the reservation quota, it is because he cant get in on merit. That's unfair to the smart kid who worked hard to excel. It's also bad news for the economy. Imagine a Google hiring 90% or even 50% of their employees based on that stupid Diversity Equity Inclusion program. Google would become worse than mediocre and wouldn't be able to compete.
it's weird too how folks like Pappu Gandhi want to dictate how much reservation quota to have, how much the rich should redistribute to others. 2 colleges etc. And they are saints. Meanwhile, Modi builds infrastructure that benefits everyone, provides toilets and drinking water and houses that uplifts one and all irrespective of caste or religion... and he is a dictator. Wah ji wah! Too nirala for words
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