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Posted: 8 months ago
#51

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Thankyou for making this post

Have you ever seen Pakistani TV shows, they demean Hinduism like anything


The earlier ones I have not seen much, but few of the famous ones that I have watched in recent times try to steer clear of talking much about us since most of their viewership comes from India after some of their actors had stints in Bollywood and/or India for web series, and if there is one thing to duly acknowledge, it is that they glorify their religion whether in theme songs or the show itself (not like I would ever extend a like of a show to liking their country, it is similar to how they watch Bollywood or iTV). Allah is shown to resolve all their problems if they visit the dargah just once. On the other hand, it is also shameful to see the iTV shows especially in the past 10 years or so. They equally demean Hinduism like anything, especially by showing all kinds of disgusting stuff happen in holy festival episodes, or evil winning over good, even if the good characters are staunch believers in our Hindu gods and goddesses. Paraayon se kya hi shikayat kare jab khud ka darpan bhi maila ho smiley18


Even when we actually look at how for instance an issue like the Partition has been portrayed in Dastaan/Ghughi (Pak) versus Buniyaad/Pinjar/Gadar/Kyun Utthe Dil Chhod Aaye (Ind), all of it mostly shows the vilification of Hindus and Sikhs as being extremists, and Muslims only retaliating, which all of us know was not the absolute truth. If Raavi turned red, it was ALSO because not even a single soul survived in the Lahore Express and various other routes coming to India, it is clearly expressed in literature like "Raavi ke paar" written by Gulzarji about his own experience, that does not try to shield the horrors of the time. The understated figures noted by the Indian government at the time, land laws wherein in Pakistan the people who had migrated were allowed to settle and own assets left by Hindus but the Hindus who had come to India had to live like refugees for years in Old Delhi, all while we legitimately still protect Mr. Jinnah's house in Mumbai, and the Partition files being hidden for years till the Partition Museum came up in 2017 to validate the experiences, just fills you with anger of how much our concerns were more about appeasement than justice from the get-go. Also note, 95% of pre-partition temples/gurudwaras were immediately demolished and transformed into mosques in Pakistan, while we did not touch any holy places until the Golden Temple incident of 1984. Even most of the girls who were kidnapped, raped and assimilated into society were put in state where they refused to travel back to their home countries in 1949 to 1957 (when the act was repealed) when both the countries had decided on restoring the women under the Abducted Persons Act. When Kashmir Files showed the brutality involved in the exodus of Kashmiri Pandits, it was termed Anti-Muslim and banned in their majority countries, while even their older shows/movies etc. which like you said have Anti-Hindu/Anti-India dialogues clearly run freely in our country.


As for the situation today, I truly feel like we as a nation also need to do more to get them to India now, which is not happening with minimal coverage of such incidents in mainstream media + the obvious selective outrage.


https://twitter.com/mytimemotsjjk/status/1759962610240258324


There are even 2-3 Pakistani women who are expressing disgrace over the current incidents that I have seen on social media, along with the few those on our end here in India trying to raise awareness, but in total there are far too less who fairly feel this way in ANY of our countries, so it is high time we establish that Hindus are also humans that deserve to live with dignity.

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Posted: 8 months ago
#52

^^^


Love you for this post. You have made everything so explicit and clear


You are right. The Pakistanis hate when their country is shown bad in movies(actually our don't even show their religion wrong), but never mind by the portrayal of Hindus and Indians


In Ghuggi they clearly showed that when Nirmala prayed to Ram nothing happened then just to check she prays to Allah and her wish is granted. About the character of her sister in law who was abducted and forcefully confined by a Muslim family, she asks her had they made her read the Shahada? She says no. That scene was nowhere needed except for the point to show that once the girl has read Shahada/Kalma or turned into a Muslim, she can't go back. Later she says she is ready to convert to Islam and stay with her(total contrast to Bano who was not ready to convert in any case)

They show like Hindu girls are waiting for an opportunity to convert while Muslims girls are devoted to theirs.

There was a show Mushrik, where hero was Muslim and heroine was Hindu(her father was a Muslim and mother a Hindu who converted to Islam to marry her father, later they divorced and she reverted to Hinduism and raised her daughter as a Hindu), so in that show hero was in love with her while she wasn't very much interested, yet they were all thinking that she will convert and marry her. His sister even tells the girl that my brother dearly loves you so you convert and marry, she said why don't you ask your brother to convert, then she said how could he? Like what exactly do you want to show?


Only good or decent portrayal of a Hindu character I have seen there is in Kuchh Ankahi, when the maid of central family was Hindu, she was shown as a normal character with her family members having issues with good and bad people like it happens to anyone(her family story was a major subplot in the show) but then even she was a maid.


The thing is the minorities there are officially persecuted and then still they say they give all rights


Many temples there have been turned to houses, madarsas or even shops

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Posted: 8 months ago
#54

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Love you for this post. You have made everything so explicit and clear. You are right. The Pakistanis hate when their country is shown bad in movies(actually ours don't even show their religion wrong), but never mind the portrayal of Hindus and Indians. The thing is the minorities there are officially persecuted and then still they say they give all rights. Many temples there have been turned to houses, madarsas or even shops.


Our issue is not with anyone's religion, but the entitlement certain feel to continue to incite hatred on the lines of religion and cross all thresholds of morality while doing so. The majority of Indians do accept that EVERYONE had lost their minds due to the Partition chaos, and it resulted in the most brutal bloodbath where left and right humanity died a million deaths. In my view, any extremist who thinks other humans deserve to be eradicated from the face of the earth or tortured/slaughtered for their gender, age or religion is absolute filth and should rot in hell. Portrayal of religion/country is just one aspect of any of this.


For instance, there are three shakti peeths in Pakistan:

  1. The original Hinglaj Mata Mandir in Hinglaj, Balochistan (where Mata Sati's head fell; kuldevi for a lot of Rajasthani/Gujarati communities)
  2. Shivaharkaray near Karachi (where the third eye of Mata Sati fell)
  3. Sharada Peeth (where Mata Sati's right hand fell and which was a centre of learning with Hindu schools/colleges as it was considered Maa Saraswati is viraajmaan here) near Muzzafarabad and the LOC in Pakistan administered Kashmir (this one is now in ruins).

In all honesty, the former 2 sites have only been saved due to Zikri and Sufi Muslims protecting them for their own religious significance.


As for persecution of minorities, I don't know why we are even waiting for any hriday parivartan. Our focus should be on the humans, not haiwaans. Their statements have clearly always centred around the fact that the country was formed FOR a particular religion, while ours is a republic, hence needs to be impartial, so we are essentially going in circles expecting any other recourse. We need to put more thought on how we (Indians) can counter this, and that should now be our concern. Raising awareness is one step, is there more we can do to safeguard their interests in some form or have them displaced safely?

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Posted: 8 months ago
#55

Some separatists will demand Khalistan from India but won’t say a peep for Pakistan killing Sikhs.


https://x.com/pakistan_untold/status/1761651175022071962?s=46&t=Q96IWrDq2C9bhu2B8fjITg

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Posted: 8 months ago
#56

Stupid khalisatnis and there Pannu is after Hindus and india---go and check on Sikhs in pakistan and do something there --atleast u will do something to ur own society---

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Posted: 8 months ago
#57

Originally posted by: maha15

Stupid khalisatnis and there Pannu is after Hindus and india---go and check on Sikhs in pakistan and do something there --atleast u will do something to ur own society---

They are wiped out from Afghanistan, barely left in Pakistan and who are left are forcefully converted or killed.

Their major part too is in Pakistan but chahiye hissa in India.


Problem yeh hain ki India ne jin jin ko sahara diya hain saare ahsaan faramosh rahe hain.


There are many areas in Delhi which were given to refugees who migrated during partition, like CR Park which was given to people who migrated from East Pakistan and now one of the poshest area in Delhi.

It is always about who make and break things, politics itna kachra nahi karti hain agar insaan andar se khokle ho like Pakistani where not even one person call out for the shit like this happening, and worst is this is not their Army who is doing all this rather common people are doing.

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Posted: 8 months ago
#60

I hope this will be helpful to those who are being mercilessly persecuted.

https://x.com/akshay_vak/status/1767171245932793901?s=46&t=Q96IWrDq2C9bhu2B8fjITg


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