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Posted: 11 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: LadyLaLa


Regarding the dowry issue... this is just the tip of the iceberg.. they have just asked for 25 million in dowry.. there will be more demands down the lane.. everytime there is a function, they would expect the DIL to bring in more money... so its good to nip it in the bud... πŸ˜†

I will also blame those who bow down to such demands... if taking dowry is considered a crime, the one giving too is equally at fault.. by doing so they too are agreeing that a girl is inferior to a boy ... if I was the girl who got to know that my parents had given a hefty some as dowry.. I would tell the boy that now that I have bought him and his family they had better serve me day and night.. 🀣 Because only slaves are bought and sold in the market.. so technically the dulha has been sold for a price of 25 million..


Yeah! I totally agree, the ones giving dowry are also equally at fault!
By doing so they are just putting down their own daughters, like Purvi said!
@bold- ROFL Haha...that would serve them right me thinks!πŸ˜‰
And the Dulha better match up to your standards and become your ghulam, cause 25 million is a hefty price to pay ehπŸ˜‰
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Posted: 11 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: Miss Cherie

Yeah! I totally agree, the ones giving dowry are also equally at fault!

By doing so they are just putting down their own daughters, like Purvi said!
@bold- 🀣 Haha...that would serve them right me thinks!πŸ˜‰
And the Dulha better match up to your standards and become your ghulam, cause 25 million is a hefty price to pay ehπŸ˜‰



Stupid parents (sorry if I hurt some sentiments) but why cant the parents give the girl the money to start her own business or as a security to see her through life.. ? they would never do that.. instead they prefer giving it to some unknown stranger who would squander the money away and treat their daughter like a slave.. that's deplorable...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: McNinja

There needs to be more people from our generations, especially the men, who make it clear to their families that they want no dowry of sorts. The older generation is unlikely to come out of this mindset, so hopefully we can start to change these regressive rituals.


Sadly I still see the same trend in this generation of educated men , going along the same lines as their peers of taking dowry in the form of gifts, money , land..
I have this occurring in my own community, the richer the groom , the more they expect from the bride.

I do hope it starts taking a curve upward rather than downhill. This does depend on the women in the family, sadly but true, who raise their sons and daughters differently .. unless the women are progressive in their thinking, changes will not happen soon.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: canuck-umz

I think there is no question, the girl may have had to endure it like their friend did in the flashback scenes.

The father did what he did because he felt indebted to Umaben for I guess giving him work or whatever she and her husband did for him. UmaBen also seems to have a way with words, she is persuasive without looking bad. She puts on this innocent faccade, so she does not look bad or otherwise acts as if it is her right, whatever it is she does. Same with the ex in laws to be, they had used the whole reverse psychology tactic (UmaBen is a master at this isn't she?).



Hiya Umz..πŸ€— long time no see 😊 That's the typical MIL from the serial world... I am sure such MILs exist in the real word too else we would not be seeing those cases in Crime Patrol ... however, why doesn't the public wake up.. haven't the seen enough to revolt and call it a crime? Why are they falling prey to such culprits ? I would say they should get out of this victim mentality..

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Posted: 11 years ago
#15
completely agree to everything all of u have said. I don't live in India.. but in my country too dowry is a tradition..but the difference is as far as i know for the history of the country not a single girl has died for this issue..ya probably in some distant past unless u brought something when u came u would hear a lot of 'hinting' from the MIL and SILs. some derogatory words...but it stopped at that...

but right now thankfully in upper middle class families dowry is the girl's education..Ok if parents have a lot of stuff like lands and etc the girl is given them.. but the difference is our dowry is given to the girl. It is legally her inheritance from her family, like her half of property just like her brothers get..It is hers to do as she pleases..In laws have no say over what she does with the things she has been given by her parents..Here dowry is not demanded (cz it simply cannot be demanded), it is given.. I think that is actually a nice way to go on a middle path right?

cz demanding dowry is like saying the girl herself has no value and to take her in we pay money!

Reminds me of Devdas movie..where Paro's mother says to Dev's mother, 'Yes we give our daughters and take money. But you take our daughter as well as money'

I am completely impressed with the message that was given loud and clear 'I WILL NOT GO TO A HOME WHERE THEY ASK FOR DOWRY' as well as 'I WILL NOT LET MY DAUGHTER GO TO A HOME WHERE DOWRY IS ASKED FOR'

well done!! I don't think I have seen this turn of evens in any other show!πŸ‘

they didn't focus on what the society will think, cz in the end when u have to light the funeral pyre of your daughter that society will not be bringing your daughter back to life...
And that was the only thing that father thought!

If parents love their daughters then this is what should be done!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: McNinja

The issue of dowry is so deep-rooted in our culture that I wonder if there is a real way around it, atleast not for another few generations as we continue to make strides at trying to eradicate the issue.


But truth be told, from what I've seen of recent marriages back home, the dowry is just getting worse. Nowadays it's considered a given that a girl will bring a car, that the immediate family of the guy will be given gold jewlery of sorts, etc etc...it's getting to a point that an average person can't give away his daughter "respectfully" without selling land, taking loans and what not.

And yet we still see that girls fathers keep giving into these demands, thinking its for the greater good. I can understand the conundrum that exists for families...it's really a catch-22. Give in once to the demands, and they can keep popping up. Don't give in, can you live with the weight of a broken engagement/marriage of your child?

There needs to be more people from our generations, especially the men, who make it clear to their families that they want no dowry of sorts. The older generation is unlikely to come out of this mindset, so hopefully we can start to change these regressive rituals.

I know, it's pathetic that the dowry system still prevails in this day and age!πŸ₯±
@bold- Yeah! I have been witness to that sort of situation and honestly it's absolutely abhorrent.😑
Yeah, I would have thought the parents would be wise enough to realize that their decision really isn't in the benefit of their daughter!
Agree, the older generation is unlikely to come out of this mindset, so we need to take the first step in bringing change.😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
#17
Who doesn't like easy money???πŸ˜›

Some hope to strike gold via lottery, gambling, betting or any other medium..sadly Dowry is also one such source. Greed sets in at a later stage leading to more demands and if the requests are not met it will lead to abuse & harassment..

At the end of the day a right decision was made or Purvi would have suffered a disastrous future..
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Posted: 11 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: Didikisaut

Who doesn't like easy money???πŸ˜›


Some hope to strike gold via lottery, gambling, betting or any other medium..sadly Dowry is also one such source. Greed sets in at a later stage leading to more demands and if the requests are not met it will lead to abuse & harassment..

At the end of the day a right decision was made or Purvi would have suffered a disastrous future..



Hiya DKS πŸ€— Gosh it has been eons since I saw you online.. How are you? It's so good to see you here.. 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
#19
Nice post!!
I would also like to point out that sometimes this dowry custom is renamed as gifts to the groom's family (& also extended family). In my culture, when the wedding dates are fixed, groom's family gives a list of not only just their family members but also their close extended family members to the bride's parents. Then the girls' parents will follow & present a gift to everyone during the event. Also, it is expected to gift gold to groom's mother & sisters.. This tradition is a headache for the middle class & the lower middle class families. Parents often have to take a loan or sell their assests to get their daughters married. The scenario gets worst when they have more than 1 daughter..
And, this doesn't stop at the wedding but continues when the girl gets pregnant, followed by the birth of her children & 1st b'day of her children - every ocassion earns gifts/dowry to the groom's/guy's family.
This whole thing is getting ridiculous. I think we are getting modern only by wearing western clothes, singing english songs, watching American sitcoms & eating Italian cuisine. However, when it comes to making a difference, we would like to follow the age-old Indian rituals.
OMG, that was a long rant.. Sorry I went off-topic & didn't even answer your qns..
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Posted: 11 years ago
#20

Originally posted by: LadyLaLa



Hiya DKS πŸ€— Gosh it has been eons since I saw you online.. How are you? It's so good to see you here.. 😊

Hola LaπŸ€— It has been light years...

I am fit enough to bash...πŸ˜›
where were you??Nice to see you getting active on this forum..😊

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