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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: PD_forums

No, it is Karthik show in first half and jayam Ravi and Karthik in second half... Yes Vikram screen time is less

What about Queen AIshwarya's screen time please?

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Posted: 2 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: TheMinion

What about Queen AIshwarya's screen time please?

Not much ... Trisha and aish comes in important scenes making way for story to move forward

Spoiler (continue reading if you want... No secret as it is already mentioned in wiki)

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Ash will be doing double role in PS 2 as mother and daughter - daughter want to kill ponniyin selvan (jayam Ravi) to become queen where mother always saves

ponniyin selvan like a guardian angel.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: TheMinion

What about Queen AIshwarya's screen time please?


All actors have limited screen time except Karthi because there are too many important characters. Nandini ( Ash ) is the main antagonist.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: PD_forums

No, it is Karthik show in first half and jayam Ravi and Karthik in second half... Yes Vikram screen time is less


Sorry. I meant to ask if Vikram is there in PS 2 , not second half of PS 1.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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watched it, I agree with the reviews here, 3-3.5/5 for me

I knew what to expect having watched Mani's films down the years, as he said in his interview with BR, more an ondnondu kaledalli and ustav

the upside of the movie was it kept to the books and the downside was also that.

pros: story (but of course) lot of effort, sincerity and mani kept true to his style and did not succumb to some pressure to deviate. costumes, real location etc are a treat to watch. karthi was great, jayam ravi i didnot expect but he was good, trisha was also great and looked good. vikram was good but somehow maybe age showed. Aish was looking beautiful in some scenes, she still has the poise and presence but her face was frozen mostly, also given the complexity of the character it was very disappointing.

cons: basically it built took time to build the characters but that is a luxury which a book has. in a film, a crucial scene, a dialogue, an introduction can establish motives and intent and stamp it, this was somehow not there, which is what ppl mean by elevation. due to this the movie will take its own sweet time. those who love historical movies ( i do) or tamils who are closely associated with cholas will like it, others it may be too much . also the fact that they had to cram so many books in 2 movies showed, it skipped too much for non-readers and showed too little for readers ( the classic dilemma) .

it was for me like some of the harry potter movies, the story is great and some of the directors deliver without ruining the book but for me the prisoner of azkaban was the best, alphonso cuaron just elevated it with his flair, complexityand nuance. that was missing here, mani got his sensibility but didnt elevate the book, it was almost like he was too scared to bring that flourish or he is past his prime and that showed. there was no genuis, wow strokes to the filmaking the way his movies like dalapathy had, it was too tame. but he did not spoil it too. bgm and music were ok which is not much from ARR.

was it bad, no, did it let down, no-ok, could it have been more, defintely yes.

it shows the power of great writing (kalki) when combined with sufficient filmaking


finally, i think an extended series on netflix would have done justice to all the material and was a better choice mainly because it has so many directions, sub plots etc which work better in that format. in a movie the non reader especially who has no context doesnt know what they are supposed to follow or invest in and lose track.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Sorry. I meant to ask if Vikram is there in PS 2 , not second half of PS 1.

Yes he will be part of PS2

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: vcs17

watched it, I agree with the reviews here, 3-3.5/5 for me

I knew what to expect having watched Mani's films down the years, as he said in his interview with BR, more an ondnondu kaledalli and ustav

the upside of the movie was it kept to the books and the downside was also that.

pros: story (but of course) lot of effort, sincerity and mani kept true to his style and did not succumb to some pressure to deviate. costumes, real location etc are a treat to watch. karthi was great, jayam ravi i didnot expect but he was good, trisha was also great and looked good. vikram was good but somehow maybe age showed. Aish was looking beautiful in some scenes, she still has the poise and presence but her face was frozen mostly, also given the complexity of the character it was very disappointing.

cons: basically it built took time to build the characters but that is a luxury which a book has. in a film, a crucial scene, a dialogue, an introduction can establish motives and intent and stamp it, this was somehow not there, which is what ppl mean by elevation. due to this the movie will take its own sweet time. those who love historical movies ( i do) or tamils who are closely associated with cholas will like it, others it may be too much . also the fact that they had to cram so many books in 2 movies showed, it skipped too much for non-readers and showed too little for readers ( the classic dilemma) .

it was for me like some of the harry potter movies, the story is great and some of the directors deliver without ruining the book but for me the prisoner of azkaban was the best, alphonso cuaron just elevated it with his flair, complexityand nuance. that was missing here, mani got his style but didnt elevate the book but he did not spoil it too. bgm and music were ok which is not much from ARR.

was it bad, no, did it let down, maybe no, could it have been more, defintely yes.

it shows the power of great writing (kalki) when combined with sufficient filmaking


finally, i think an extended series on netflix would have done justice to all the material and was a better choice.

I agree with you book is 5 parts ( if i am not wrong ) to make it 2 parts is quiet a challenging...

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Mani Ratnam said he couldn’t get the budget for 5 parts otherwise the original idea was to make an elaborate 5 part visual bonanza. I am sure he did all his groundwork doing his best to bring it out to the audience in the best way possible despite all the possible limitations.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Mani Ratnam said he couldn’t get the budget for 5 parts otherwise the original idea was to make an elaborate 5 part visual bonanza. I am sure he did all his groundwork doing his best to bring it out to the audience in the best way possible despite all the possible limitations.

agree, very challenging

which brings to the point you made earlier,of benefit of pan india appeal with hindi market target they could have gotten more budget, but it is lot of effort they have build audience familiarity with them, the material and build it gradually which one week promotions wont make happen

other option is series, i think it is better to do that, mindset has to change that cinema is be all and end all, look at GoT

for example mahabharata will work in series, only close ended episodes from it can be films, whole story will take 5-6 movies again which is why Rajamouli may attempt it if it gets that budget

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Originally posted by: vcs17

which brings to the point you made earlier,of benefit of pan india appeal with hindi market target they could have gotten more budget, but it is lot of effort they have build audience familiarity with them, the material and build it gradually which one week promotions wont make happen

other option is series, i think it is better to do that, mindset has to change that cinema is be all and end all, look at GoT

for example mahabharata will work in series, only close ended episodes from it can be films, whole story will take 5-6 movies again which is why Rajamouli may attempt it if it gets that budget

Agree about the filmmakers getting rid of the big screen mindset. GOT has already broken all the myths about it and hope more filmmakers follow their path. Even if he got the budget, it’s not possible to sustain the audience interest for more than 2 parts with the story on coming together in the last part. And with this kind of promotional strategy he can just forget it.

Mahabharata is another thing altogether because then it becomes more about the making and the other detail as the story is already well known ( which is both a positive as well as the negative point). It can work with a completely new star cast who are willing to dedicate their careers to it, something like how the Harry Potter movies worked.

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