Vivek oberoi's most matured post on SSR demise - Page 2

Vivek's career was definitely sabotaged and I definitely know that sabotaging people's career does happen in Bollywood by people in power.

Salman Khan, he is a bully. Watch him on Bigg Boss, he ridicules, mocks, bullies contestants. He does that coz he is powerful and can do anything to these contestants who have come to either start their career or revive their career.

He does this all on the show in front of the audience, Imagine what he does behind the scenes when the camera is not filming.

Bullies need to be exposed.

Though I appreciate his post and how he shed light on some important topics, I’m just about at my wits end with the constant suicide shaming that happens due to ignorance. I’m not saying that it’s intentional but it isn’t helpful in bringing awareness to the issue if you are going to downplay the act as merely a bad decision. It is so much more complex than that.

Let’s consider something here and put it into perspective. You have a severe peanut allergy and once consumed, in a matter of second or minutes you can go into anaphylaxis shock. You accidentally eat a dish that has peanuts and within seconds you start to feel itchy, your throat begins to feel tight and you realise that it’s becoming harder to breathe. A sudden drop of blood pressure has you feeling extremely dizzy and at this point you’re fighting to remain conscious. Your heart is beating frantically, but the panic is starting to become worse. You can’t breathe. The swelling of your airways is making you gasp for breath, it feels like you’re going to suffocate to death. Without an epipen, if essential medical care is not received than within 15-20 minutes may result in fatality. Now imagine the terror of this situation. You can’t breathe, your throat is closing up on you. You can’t breathe! Could you imagine how terrifying the prospect of death is? Who would willingly want to experience that right? Well that’s not how it works with someone suffering from major depression.

With the diagnosis of Depression, the individual may be suffering from depressed mood and/or no longer find joy in activities that they once loved. They may deal with sleep disturbances, appetite loss or change, lethargy, feelings of worthlessness, diminished ability to think or make decisions, and may have recurrent thoughts of death/suicide ideation. You are dealing with ruminative thoughts ‘I’m a failure. It’s my fault. Nothing good ever happens to me. I’m worthless. Life’s not worth living. People would be better off without me’. Nobody enjoys having that kind of thought process. No one willingly makes themselves that miserable. Do you think people suffering from depression want to feel miserable all the time? Do you think they want to feel hopeless? Do you think they want to be in pain everyday? Doesn’t everyone want to feel in control of their lives, thoughts and emotions? You can’t just tell someone with depression to snap out of it, and to think about their family/friends and fans. Sushant would have loved his family, friends and fans. He would have thought about them. But he was living with the pain and the spiral of dark thoughts. In situations like this, people feel alone. Can you take into perspective how less precious life can feel for someone with depression, especially when they feel hopeless and can no longer see a future. The pain, the sadness, the thoughts, can become burdensome to them. They start to believe that they have become a burden to others.

Prior to his diagnosis or before his condition worsened, Sushant would have probably thought the same as Vivek with the quote ‘death is not the answer’. But as the ruminative thoughts increases and everyday of living with the pain starts to feel burdensome, suicide can be perceived as the only solution. Of course, we who cannot truly empathise with his condition, can see multiple avenues of help and support that could have been available to him. However if you educate yourselves in the prognosis of depression, you would know that people with this condition experience difficulty thinking, concentrating and making decisions. At times, the negative thoughts and the low mood takes over your life and it becomes difficult to break out of it. Especially taking into consideration that lock-down not only forces you into isolation but dangerously limits progress for vulnerable people like Sushant. For him, ending his life may have been perceived as the only way to stop feeling the pain anymore. Unless diagnosed with depression, nobody and I repeat nobody can even imagine the extent of pain a person must be suffering for them to seek death as a way to end it. My heart screams in sorrow knowing that a person is capable of feeling that level of hopelessness.

I appreciate the sentiments Vivek tried to portray in his post. But please educate yourselves in this matter before posting about it. Learn how to identify the signs of suicide ideation rather than preaching about it not being the solution. You are not suffering from depression. Suicide is not the solution for you. Sushant was suffering from depression. Suicide may have been the only solution that he could think of. When you can’t put yourself in someone else’s shoes than at the very least don’t shame the act with ignorance. Start thinking about why suicide became an option for him. Educate yourself on understanding the condition. Learn about what kind of support should be given and what the signs/symptoms look like. Maybe with that knowledge, we can save a life instead.

Originally posted by: ShamrozSays

Best tweet in recent times. Straight from heart. Vivek Oberoi has also suffered alot due to injustice of Bollywood and influence of powerful personalities. I wish Sushant had the courage what Vivek has. 💔...

P.S- i am not able to link images here since i made a topic after like 3-4 yrs!!....can anyone plzz post it..its on both twitter & Instagram

This is so so wrong!!!

Different people have different struggles. And they fought for it, tried and tried over the years and months.

Glad that xyz got through but that doesn't mean u have to compare that xyz with the one who couldn't make it.

It's like how so many people make it through so many deadly diseases while so many were not able to. It's the same.

Originally posted by: Pain-in-ur-Neck

I kinda understand when people say "suicide is never a solution", but people also easily forget for someone who's going theough the bottom of the abyss "death" seems like the ONLY solution!

Suicide is never a solution comes off like you're shaming the victim for not having the will to sustain! Will kaha se laaye when someone's got none of that during their end times.

Killing yourself has to be the most terrifying step ever for anyone!

Why would anyone want to kill themselves when there's so much to life?! Ofc for that person "there isn't much to life" hence the step closer to death!

I wish people would NOT preach with "suicide isn't a solution" rather spread awareness how not to shame someone contemplating about not having much to life for.

Be the support, be the guiding eyes and ears, be there for someone going through depression so they can find the very hope they are lacking! :)

Otherwise more power to Vivek for not losing hope and finding the light in the deepest pit of darkness!

Word PINUN. Word.

I do find vivek Oberoi a good human but this tweet was in bad taste especially the beginning. I understand he's been through a lot, that does not mean the other person never tried. This tweet is border line blaming him. I found sikander kher ka post more understanding even tho he was breathing heavily.

Why are people misunderstanding Vivek ?

Don't we all say he shouldn't have done that ?

Don't we all wish during that time someone would have been with him ?

When a person in depression goes through suicide thoughts there are moments they get triggered .... Only in those times if someone handles them or they handle themselves ....like someone arrived at Sushant just the moment he thought to hang himself ..... Things could change .... Don't we feel like that

Vivek just spoke in normal language. He isn't shaming anyone just speaking his emotions how if he knew he would help him. He is speaking on whole how this incident is haunting their family.

People are ready with gun to shoot for every word that's goes wrong.

Originally posted by: tanvismile

Why are people misunderstanding Vivek ?

Don't we all say he shouldn't have done that ?

Don't we all wish during that time someone would have been with him ?

When a person in depression goes through suicide thoughts there are moments they get triggered .... Only in those times if someone handles them or they handle themselves ....like someone arrived at Sushant just the moment he thought to hang himself ..... Things could change .... Don't we feel like that

Vivek just spoke in normal language. He isn't shaming anyone just speaking his emotions how if he knew he would help him. He is speaking on whole how this incident is haunting their family.

People are ready with gun to shoot for every word that's goes wrong.

Suicide is a sensitive subject that more often than not is being portrayed in a negative light. The ‘normal language’ being spoken is exactly what is wrong with society. If you have no understanding of what depression entails, than either educate yourself before posting or don’t mention shit like ‘Suicide is not the solution. Death is never the answer’. It increases the stigmatising reactions from people who don’t know much about the condition. Since he is a public figure and many people will follow his posts, it is even more important that he chooses his words wisely.

Also, do you think a trained medical practitioner would tell Sushant’s father, ‘he shouldn’t have done that. Death is never an answer’. Fcuk no. Yes, Vivek ain’t a medical expert but you can expect a bit more perspective from him. ‘I wish he stopped to think about his family, friends and fans?’ Again, I know he was sincere but can you not see how this sentence can be interpreted as Sushant’s suicide being a selfish act because he didn’t consider his loved ones. No one is bad mouthing his intentions, but you need to be careful in how you word things.

Originally posted by: tanvismile

Why are people misunderstanding Vivek ?

Don't we all say he shouldn't have done that ?

Don't we all wish during that time someone would have been with him ?

When a person in depression goes through suicide thoughts there are moments they get triggered .... Only in those times if someone handles them or they handle themselves ....like someone arrived at Sushant just the moment he thought to hang himself ..... Things could change .... Don't we feel like that

Vivek just spoke in normal language. He isn't shaming anyone just speaking his emotions how if he knew he would help him. He is speaking on whole how this incident is haunting their family.

People are ready with gun to shoot for every word that's goes wrong.

I think what Vivek intended to do was encourage others who might be suffering from depression to seek help before they think of ending their life. Suicide victims should never be shamed as weak people. That is for sure. And maybe if he sought help and support (earlier on) he could have felt better. Than again we don't know the full story. He could have very well been seeking help in advance and still continued to experience his symptoms worsening. Counseling doesn't work for anyone. Nor does medication. Some people are seriously allergic. If you watch the video of Vivek at Sushant's funeral you can tell he is one person that truly relates to the struggle of Sushant because he sort experienced it himself by being blacklisted.

Originally posted by: FingerFetish

Though I appreciate his post and how he shed light on some important topics, I’m just about at my wits end with the constant suicide shaming that happens due to ignorance. I’m not saying that it’s intentional but it isn’t helpful in bringing awareness to the issue if you are going to downplay the act as merely a bad decision. It is so much more complex than that.

Let’s consider something here and put it into perspective. You have a severe peanut allergy and once consumed, in a matter of second or minutes you can go into anaphylaxis shock. You accidentally eat a dish that has peanuts and within seconds you start to feel itchy, your throat begins to feel tight and you realise that it’s becoming harder to breathe. A sudden drop of blood pressure has you feeling extremely dizzy and at this point you’re fighting to remain conscious. Your heart is beating frantically, but the panic is starting to become worse. You can’t breathe. The swelling of your airways is making you gasp for breath, it feels like you’re going to suffocate to death. Without an epipen, if essential medical care is not received than within 15-20 minutes may result in fatality. Now imagine the terror of this situation. You can’t breathe, your throat is closing up on you. You can’t breathe! Could you imagine how terrifying the prospect of death is? Who would willingly want to experience that right? Well that’s not how it works with someone suffering from major depression.

With the diagnosis of Depression, the individual may be suffering from depressed mood and/or no longer find joy in activities that they once loved. They may deal with sleep disturbances, appetite loss or change, lethargy, feelings of worthlessness, diminished ability to think or make decisions, and may have recurrent thoughts of death/suicide ideation. You are dealing with ruminative thoughts ‘I’m a failure. It’s my fault. Nothing good ever happens to me. I’m worthless. Life’s not worth living. People would be better off without me’. Nobody enjoys having that kind of thought process. No one willingly makes themselves that miserable. Do you think people suffering from depression want to feel miserable all the time? Do you think they want to feel hopeless? Do you think they want to be in pain everyday? Doesn’t everyone want to feel in control of their lives, thoughts and emotions? You can’t just tell someone with depression to snap out of it, and to think about their family/friends and fans. Sushant would have loved his family, friends and fans. He would have thought about them. But he was living with the pain and the spiral of dark thoughts. In situations like this, people feel alone. Can you take into perspective how less precious life can feel for someone with depression, especially when they feel hopeless and can no longer see a future. The pain, the sadness, the thoughts, can become burdensome to them. They start to believe that they have become a burden to others.

Prior to his diagnosis or before his condition worsened, Sushant would have probably thought the same as Vivek with the quote ‘death is not the answer’. But as the ruminative thoughts increases and everyday of living with the pain starts to feel burdensome, suicide can be perceived as the only solution. Of course, we who cannot truly empathise with his condition, can see multiple avenues of help and support that could have been available to him. However if you educate yourselves in the prognosis of depression, you would know that people with this condition experience difficulty thinking, concentrating and making decisions. At times, the negative thoughts and the low mood takes over your life and it becomes difficult to break out of it. Especially taking into consideration that lock-down not only forces you into isolation but dangerously limits progress for vulnerable people like Sushant. For him, ending his life may have been perceived as the only way to stop feeling the pain anymore. Unless diagnosed with depression, nobody and I repeat nobody can even imagine the extent of pain a person must be suffering for them to seek death as a way to end it. My heart screams in sorrow knowing that a person is capable of feeling that level of hopelessness.

I appreciate the sentiments Vivek tried to portray in his post. But please educate yourselves in this matter before posting about it. Learn how to identify the signs of suicide ideation rather than preaching about it not being the solution. You are not suffering from depression. Suicide is not the solution for you. Sushant was suffering from depression. Suicide may have been the only solution that he could think of. When you can’t put yourself in someone else’s shoes than at the very least don’t shame the act with ignorance. Start thinking about why suicide became an option for him. Educate yourself on understanding the condition. Learn about what kind of support should be given and what the signs/symptoms look like. Maybe with that knowledge, we can save a life instead.

I think the lockdown made it worse for Sushant. I think a better thing instead of say "suicide is not the answer" is saying we should raise mental health awareness. That way Sushant could have been in counseling which could have prevented the depression from getting worse. Again we don't know if he did or not. Catching it at an earlier state would have been better.

Originally posted by: FingerFetish

Suicide is a sensitive subject that more often than not is being portrayed in a negative light. The ‘normal language’ being spoken is exactly what is wrong with society. If you have no understanding of what depression entails, than either educate yourself before posting or don’t mention shit like ‘Suicide is not the solution. Death is never the answer’. It increases the stigmatising reactions from people who don’t know much about the condition. Since he is a public figure and many people will follow his posts, it is even more important that he chooses his words wisely.

Also, do you think a trained medical practitioner would tell Sushant’s father, ‘he shouldn’t have done that. Death is never an answer’. Fcuk no. Yes, Vivek ain’t a medical expert but you can expect a bit more perspective from him. ‘I wish he stopped to think about his family, friends and fans?’ Again, I know he was sincere but can you not see how this sentence can be interpreted as Sushant’s suicide being a selfish act because he didn’t consider his loved ones. No one is bad mouthing his intentions, but you need to be careful in how you word things.

Words matter but more than words it's the vibe because energy never lies isn't it ? Did u feel like Vivek was putting Sushant as someone weak ? I don't think so. He himself has gone through such phase and he was just feeling helpless like most of us feel in Sushant s case.

Originally posted by: Pain-in-ur-Neck

I kinda understand when people say "suicide is never a solution", but people also easily forget for someone who's going theough the bottom of the abyss "death" seems like the ONLY solution!

Suicide is never a solution comes off like you're shaming the victim for not having the will to sustain! Will kaha se laaye when someone's got none of that during their end times.

Killing yourself has to be the most terrifying step ever for anyone!

Why would anyone want to kill themselves when there's so much to life?! Ofc for that person "there isn't much to life" hence the step closer to death!

I wish people would NOT preach with "suicide isn't a solution" rather spread awareness how not to shame someone contemplating about not having much to life for.

Be the support, be the guiding eyes and ears, be there for someone going through depression so they can find the very hope they are lacking! :)

Otherwise more power to Vivek for not losing hope and finding the light in the deepest pit of darkness!

Thank you! Beautifully said. Couldn't have said it better myself.